its not going to stop me from being a donor just puts reality back into play when this stuff happens is all
what a waste
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BlackCherry
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I think what Zorak meant was that while yes, that a-hole was a selfish c-u-next tuesday, if we stop donating organs because of him then the little girl you mentioned may not have a back up to get a second chance.
This guy makes me wonder though...was he just waiting to get a liver so he could go drink his ass off? Hospitals are NOT to do a transplant on a patient on the wait list who is drinking...while I'm sure there are ways of putting on a halo face and saying "no I certainly wasn't drinking" and then drink anyway, I would think that would be tough to pull off.
This got me pondering though...I was ready to jump on the "burn him" bandwagon and I started thinking (for some reason) about people who get gastric bypass. They too are opting in for a life changing opportunity but just by making someone's stomach smaller doesn't change their behavior. So when someone (and I know it's elective surgery and a little bit different but bear with me) has gastric bypass and gains all of the weight back because they never changed their behavior does it invoke the same reaction as someone who is a raging alcoholic, doesn't really change his behavior, gets a new liver, and falls off of the wagon? Addiction be it food, alcohol, etc. sometimes as we know (watch an epi of Intervention...yikes) transcends logic. Is a puzzlement...
Another example is someone that I know who recently had a stroke. He had a gastric bypass a few years ago and lost a great deal of weight and has kept it off for the most part. Now when you have gastric bypass, it really does take a dramatic toll on your body's ability to cope with abuse. So, it was puzzling to many of us that he would smoke (particularly since he also has high blood pressure), drink copious amounts of alcohol on a regular basis, and not eat right (like not eating regular meals and crappy ones at that). On top of that he has a very high pressure job in politics so he was stressed a lot. At 29 he's found himself having a 6 month recovery because of a stroke that maybe could have been prevented if he took his second chance seriously.
That was my long and round about way of basically making the point that changing behavior is just as crucial as changing the physical.
This guy makes me wonder though...was he just waiting to get a liver so he could go drink his ass off? Hospitals are NOT to do a transplant on a patient on the wait list who is drinking...while I'm sure there are ways of putting on a halo face and saying "no I certainly wasn't drinking" and then drink anyway, I would think that would be tough to pull off.
This got me pondering though...I was ready to jump on the "burn him" bandwagon and I started thinking (for some reason) about people who get gastric bypass. They too are opting in for a life changing opportunity but just by making someone's stomach smaller doesn't change their behavior. So when someone (and I know it's elective surgery and a little bit different but bear with me) has gastric bypass and gains all of the weight back because they never changed their behavior does it invoke the same reaction as someone who is a raging alcoholic, doesn't really change his behavior, gets a new liver, and falls off of the wagon? Addiction be it food, alcohol, etc. sometimes as we know (watch an epi of Intervention...yikes) transcends logic. Is a puzzlement...
Another example is someone that I know who recently had a stroke. He had a gastric bypass a few years ago and lost a great deal of weight and has kept it off for the most part. Now when you have gastric bypass, it really does take a dramatic toll on your body's ability to cope with abuse. So, it was puzzling to many of us that he would smoke (particularly since he also has high blood pressure), drink copious amounts of alcohol on a regular basis, and not eat right (like not eating regular meals and crappy ones at that). On top of that he has a very high pressure job in politics so he was stressed a lot. At 29 he's found himself having a 6 month recovery because of a stroke that maybe could have been prevented if he took his second chance seriously.
That was my long and round about way of basically making the point that changing behavior is just as crucial as changing the physical.
Ok! I understand. I was hoping that didn't mean you wouldn't donate your organs.
I think it's awesome that there is a chance that I might be able to help someone after I die. I once met a man who had a heart transplant after living with a bad heart all his life. He was in his 50's. It changed his life. He hadn't had much of a life because he had no stamina to travel and get about. Ironically, I met him on a plane. He was taking full advantage of his new heart.
He enthusiastically told me his story and asked if I checked the donor box on my license. I already had, but listening to him, if I hadn't, I would have then. Good on ya Audraa!
Sneakiecat
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It never said why he got the liver. It could have been something completely unrelated to alcohol. Granted, it's still not smart to but why string up the guy without all the facts.
because its my nature to assume the worst
Alien Allen
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Did I miss more to the story?
No history of why he had the transplant or why he was drunk.
Was it a ritual or an anomoly to be drunk
Likely an alcoholic but seems like there is more to this story.
If he is an alchy then was this a one time off the wagon or had he been drinking a lot lately?
I would think or would hope some consideration would be given to past drinking issues and if a concern somebody should agree to go on antibuse if they want a transplant if they are an alcoholic.
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