Was our first God, a Goddess?

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Was our first God as a Goddess has nothing to do with the bible really. God as a male figure is mostly a modern invention in the grand scheme of things.

Where do you think that whole "mother nature" thing came from? Before God and Jesus there was nature. There are very few matriarchal societies in existence or historical accounts of any other than Myth. But Patriarchal society wasn't as prevalent as it became. "God" was a mother figure way make when.

Good times...gooood times.

The reason we have a father in heaven could be very reflective of relative power men held in society when Jesus was reported to be around. Yes, Man's creation.
 
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For Christians, you have to keep in mind that God is supposed to be an incomprehensible figure. To say that it is a male or female is quite comprehensible. Either way, it seems to not be that big of a deal one way or another to me.
 

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For Christians, you have to keep in mind that God is supposed to be an incomprehensible figure. To say that it is a male or female is quite comprehensible. Either way, it seems to not be that big of a deal one way or another to me.

Spoken like a self centered MALE.

If God is incomprehensible, why should man follow someone he does not understand. It could be Satan.

I must say though that you are not following the bible story at all.

They have become as Gods, knowing good and evil.

Eve comprehended God which is why she ignored Him after eating of the tree of knowledge.

Only the literalists and fundamentals nowadays do not comprehend God.

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Spoken like a self centered MALE.

If God is incomprehensible, why should man follow someone he does not understand. It could be Satan.

I must say though that you are not following the bible story at all.

They have become as Gods, knowing good and evil.

Eve comprehended God which is why she ignored Him after eating of the tree of knowledge.

Only the literalists and fundamentals nowadays do not comprehend God.

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DL

I dont really understand on your emphasis on male. Or how I am self-centered. I am saying that it is neither male nor female. If I were a self-centered male, my argument would be that God were a man and that males are superior to females. I am arguing nearly the opposite. Afterall, I do love me some woman.

You are also perverting my statement, or misunderstanding it. The idea of God's existance is incomprehensible. His teachings are not. That means the entity itself is beyond comprehension, his ideas or teachings are not.

How am I not following the Bible at all? God talked to Adam and Eve in the form of man. God can appear in whatever entity he so choses as to be comprehended by human beings. I was not attemtping to follow any passage directly at all, so I am not sure how any of your posts makes sense either. I also think your last sentence is beyond ignorant and stereotypical, even if I am neither a fundamentalist or a literal reader of the Bile.
 

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I dont really understand on your emphasis on male. Or how I am self-centered. I am saying that it is neither male nor female. If I were a self-centered male, my argument would be that God were a man and that males are superior to females. I am arguing nearly the opposite. Afterall, I do love me some woman.

" it seems to not be that big of a deal one way or another to me."
This is the statement that triggered my response. It is a big deal to woman who has been oppressed all of these years. It is not about you.

You are also perverting my statement, or misunderstanding it. The idea of God's existance is incomprehensible. His teachings are not. That means the entity itself is beyond comprehension, his ideas or teachings are not
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Yet all we have is what is given to us by man.

How am I not following the Bible at all? God talked to Adam and Eve in the form of man. God can appear in whatever entity he so choses as to be comprehended by human beings. I was not attemtping to follow any passage directly at all, so I am not sure how any of your posts makes sense either. I also think your last sentence is beyond ignorant and stereotypical, even if I am neither a fundamentalist or a literal reader of the Bile.

Thanks for the walk through fantasy lane.
You cannot, except for hear say, know what God can or can't do.

You spout dogma as if it were true and real.

What was the talking snake?
Let's see how well you follow the Bible.

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'Our' first god?
There's are many gods as people. Most early peoples didn't asign anthropic attributes to cosmological forces, their 'deities' were more a combination of angel and demon.
 

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'Our' first god?
There's are many gods as people. Most early peoples didn't asign anthropic attributes to cosmological forces, their 'deities' were more a combination of angel and demon.

First came natural Gods and animals, then the Greeks with their many deities then the monotheist religions.

It took Christianity a long time to get recognized.
I guess God was on vacation somewhere till 380 ad or so.

They all seem to be male Gods.
I wonder if that was because males were the stronger of both sexes. Hmm.

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The idea of God's existance is incomprehensible. His teachings are not. That means the entity itself is beyond comprehension, his ideas or teachings are not.

Why not? You've made at least one assumption that "his ideas or teachings" are God's and not mans'. Man published, pushes, manipulates, and edits these ideas, in many cases making themselves wealthy and powerful, without any ascertainable collaboration with a divine being.
 

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The idea of God's existance is incomprehensible. His teachings are not. That means the entity itself is beyond comprehension, his ideas or teachings are not.

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Could you educate me as to what God's law is on cloning and stem cell research as well as the production of chimeras that man can now do?

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If you read it says that "She was like god knowing good an evil." Do not mistake the context. She wasn't "Like god" she was like god in the way she knew good and evil, which god did
 

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Could you educate me as to what God's law is on cloning and stem cell research as well as the production of chimeras that man can now do?

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That is remarkable. But your are not recreating life from nothing. When Humans do that. I might reconsider god. Even then i doubt it.
 

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If you read it says that "She was like god knowing good an evil." Do not mistake the context. She wasn't "Like god" she was like god in the way she knew good and evil, which god did

For all we can know, unless you want to believe in fantasy characters like talking animals and water walking, then that is all that is required by the myth to be in God's image.

To think that man is less than God would be silly.

As a parent, do you not want your children to meet or exceed whatever you are?

I know your answer.

If that is the case, why do you think that God would want any less for His children?

Have ye forgotten that ye are Gods. This from Jesus.

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That is remarkable. But your are not recreating life from nothing. When Humans do that. I might reconsider god. Even then i doubt it.

Any that believe in a creator God have no proof or evidence of it unless like myself, they recognize that we live in a perfect environment.

Few can get past the reality of evil and do not have much faith in the perfection of God. They follow a loser who they expect to return to fix what is not broken.

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At times the thought of God creating souls and then making them prove themselves on Earth before admittance into heaven seems rather simplistic and humorous to me. If we are spirits or if it is the spirit that continues, presumably for eternity, why bind us to flesh and blood and give us just a moment (in the big picture) to prove ourselves? If such a standard exists (there is no proof it does) it might take much more time than one human life can offer to get it right.

Many faithful know there is a heaven, but tend to be overly preoccupied with what happens during their life time as if their human lives are the primary event. As such, they over emphasis the importance of being rewarded in this life for being good or following what they have been told are the divine rules, presuming this is the make or break test to get into heaven.

While I have no basis to contest this assertion because it is all conjecture, another equal possibility is that we all have all ready been to the place referred to as "heaven" before, and this is just one brief stop in an evolutionary journey of unknown time and space. And if any test exists, it very well could be an internal test, not an external test imposed upon us.
 
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At times the thought of God creating souls and then making them prove themselves on Earth before admittance into heaven seems rather simplistic and humorous to me. If we are spirits or if it is the spirit that continues, presumably for eternity, why bind us to flesh and blood and give us just a moment (in the big picture) to prove ourselves? If such a standard exists (there is no proof it does) it might take much more time than one human life can offer to get it right.

Many faithful know there is a heaven, but tend to be overly preoccupied with what happens during their life time as if their human lives are the primary event. As such, they over emphasis the importance of being rewarded in this life for being good or following what they have been told are the divine rules, presuming this is the make or break test to get into heaven.

While I have no basis to contest this assertion because it is all conjecture, another equal possibility is that we all have all ready been to the place referred to as "heaven" before, and this is just one brief stop in an evolutionary journey of unknown time and space. And if any test exists, it very well could be an internal test, not an external test imposed upon us.

If there is a test then it seems strange that a God would need to create man just to be a make work project for Himself as a judge of those who are being tested. I like it though. God working for man seems right.

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