Was Hitler Right About Anything?

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All Else Failed

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He's failing miserably at this one though

-Living standards were excellent under him
They were. Do some research. The middle class in Germany expanded rapidly and those who were out of work had gotten non-military related jobs. Health care was vastly improved and the average citizen could afford a home and lead a good life.
 
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Is someone in this thread trying to make a comparison of Obama to Hitler? (sigh)

Hitler's bad points completely over shadow any good points he might of had. If you are a murdering bigoted bastard so what if you like architecture or can promote the manufacture a decent car. He's burning in hell or ideally being made to think about the consequences and harm of his actions in the next existence.
 

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-One of the greatest leaders to ever live. I mean this by the sheer fact that he was extremely convincing, charismatic, and could unite people under one cause.

-Unified a totally broken country and built the economy back up to be one of the most powerful forces on the planet in under 10 years

-Most politicians and public speakers would kill for his charisma

-Living standards were excellent under him

This is what most people fail to understand about the man.

yes, he led the single most hideous act of hatred in human history by leading the ethnic cleansing, that can never be disputed, his action cause the death of millions of people, that can never be disputed... BUT in taking an honest look aside from everything that is negative about his action or his intent as a figure of power and world history you all just HAVE to admit that AEF has posted a few very valid points. I can never get people to see this whenever the argument comes up, most people are centered on the negative actions he did be it directly or indirectly.

He was one of the greatest speakers of our time.

He assured that everyone that could work and worked did so to benefit the country as a whole... (yes a little socialist there lol) but still as AEF mentioned living standards for his people under him were some of the best for that time in history.

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"-Unified a totally broken country and built the economy back up to be one of the most powerful forces on the planet in under 10 years"

well we have been at it for how long and we STILL cant get it right lol. I am not a socialist, no I don’t support genocide (FFS I am a fkin beaner lol) but you have to admit that aside from the conceived notion that he was an EVIL MAN... he was ultimately a great leader.

His cause may have been wrong and horrible but his leadership/charisma/approval rate within his nation was superb.
 

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I remember being told at one time he was a brilliant millitary tactician. But that's not even true. He made many serious blunders in the 40s. All he really did was take advantage of countries with lesser millitary. When faced with legitimate opposition (other than France), he just buckled.

Hitler wasn't a brilliant tactician, he was an idiot. His generals were brilliant though, most German military blunders during WW2 can be attributed to Hilter's over interference in the affairs of the OKW (German high command)

And he seriously underestimated the value of air supremacy and put all his faith in his tanks. Which do work well, when you're fighting against men on horseback...

Hitler didn't underestimate the power of air supremacy, if you look at the Blitzkrieg military doctrine, air power is emphasised at all stages of the offensive.

Because there is strong evidence that Russia was actually going to attack Germany. Why do you think the Germans captured so many Russian soldiers, material and tanks so early into operation Barbarossa? it was because the Russians were massing their forces on the borders.

I disagree.

The Soviet army in June 1941 was under equipped, under manned and resourced. Logistically speaking, the Red Army was in a shambles. Radio communication was so primitive and non-exsistant that commanders could not properly relay orders to soldiers on the field.

Commanders were also inexperienced and younger compared to their German counterparts, as a result, Soviet commanders basically threw their troops at the Germans in the early stages of the conflict (Soviet offensive doctrine encouraged launching offensives on the operational - tactical level)

Soviet 'armies' positioned along the Eastern front were highly dispersed and unprepared for any attack. After 1940 Soviet military doctrine was changing from more of a 'linear defence' to a 'defence in depth' strategy, but at the time of the German invasion, it had only begun to be implemented, as a result, most of the Soviet forces were massed along the border with Germany. Not being used on a war footing.
 

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Hitler wasn't a brilliant tactician, he was an idiot. His generals were brilliant though, most German military blunders during WW2 can be attributed to Hilter's over interference in the affairs of the OKW (German high command)

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Major General Gunther Blumentritt: [in German] This is history. We are living an historical moment. We are going to lose the war because our glorious Führer has taken a sleeping pill and is not to be awakened. Sometimes I wonder which side God is on. :)
 

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While Hitler was attacking the Western front, he then made war on the Eastern front, that is a stupid move in anyones book and what ultimately lost him the war.
 

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I remember being told at one time he was a brilliant millitary tactician. But that's not even true. He made many serious blunders in the 40s. All he really did was take advantage of countries with lesser millitary. When faced with legitimate opposition (other than France), he just buckled.And he seriously underestimated the value of air supremacy and put all his faith in his tanks. Which do work well, when you're fighting against men on horseback...

brilliance is making the most out of a situation

buckiling takes hours not years

so not true,he wouldn't invade britain until he had dominance of the skies...and we won the battle of britain so he gave up

france was tactical genius,just conquer a weaker country and go in that way,instead of facing the maginot line

he was flawed though,attacking russia was one of the biggest mistakes in history....as was trying to exterminate the jews,he murdered alot of fighting men
 

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He was brilliant, and charismatic, and managed to conquer a good portion of the world, I can respect these things about him.
 

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probably but I cannot think of any.

He was a mediocre painter and an oblivious architect. he was definitely a brilliant orator though.
 

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The double-cross against Stalin wasn't a bad idea in theory, it would have secured the Eastern front allowing a Japanese reinforcement line. Unfortunatley, Tojo might have jumped the gun a few months early.
 
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