US Debt Clock

[retro]

I wonder why you guys take it so personal in a lively constructive debate

Nothing that you say is in any way constructive, merely pathetically inflammatory and intended to get people to react negatively.

 

[kelvin070]

The moment I show my support for Obama here all hell breaks loose.

 

[kelvin070]

When you guys disagree with his policies etc. thats a healthy sign. How else can standards improve.

 

[alice in chains]

i agree with what everyone else is saying, you say shit to induce unnecessary conflict

 

[kelvin070]

do I really have to go pull out the numbers (again) that show that Obama has spent, or committed to spending, more in 10 months than Bush did on Iraq and Afghanistan combined? Good Lord.

OK, I have to agree with you on that.

Source: Projected Deficit - washingtonpost.com

 

[kelvin070]

i agree with what everyone else is saying, you say shit to induce unnecessary conflict

You are grossly mistaken.

 

[kelvin070]

i agree with what everyone else is saying, you say shit to induce unnecessary conflict

And for your info I seldom get involved in other people's threads.

 

[kelvin070]

Source: U.S. National Debt Graph: Since Great Depression

 

[Accountable]

A more useful graph would show the actual lines for debt and GDP, and it would show more than 1 month of Obamanomics as well. Carter's line is interesting. I didn't expect that. It also appears that the Bush admin was getting a handle on things until their house of cards collapsed and the gov't decided to violate virtually every tenet of the free market system so that their sugar daddies could afford to pay themselves their bonuses.

 

[kelvin070]

The way you guys are screaming if you extrapolate the one month of obama's line it will overshoot the page.

 

[Accountable]

What's the "The way you guys are screaming" phrase for? The rest of your post is absolutely true.

 

[kelvin070]

The big spender Obama outcry

 

[nova]

LINK = U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Not really a political thing but there isn't a better place for this.

Whats worse is thats only cash debt. If you utilize accrual accounting methods that take into account outstanding liabilities, those numbers get even scarier than they already are....

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

Well Timothy Geithner, he's no more credible than the rest of the folks who has had that seat, BUT under the headlines of change...You'd think...well that it would...change....

 

[kelvin070]

GOP Brand Has Declined Since Obama Took Office, According To New Polling Data



Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/19/gop-brand-has-declined-si_n_325907.html

 

[kelvin070]

PA GOP Runs Ad Replacing 'O' In Obama's Name With Soviet-Style Hammer And Sickle

Source: PA GOP Runs Ad Replacing 'O' In Obama's Name With Soviet-Style Hammer And Sickle | TPM LiveWire

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

The scary thing is nobody thinks about this: Banks are capable of lending 10-30 times the value of capital, they create the paper to cover the debt, with no real hard backing. Doesn't anyone think it' possible that the wreck on Wall St. was created on purpose? Now they can take posessions from people VIA foreclosures and Bankruptcy, get more money from the government, and in the end, we have less than we started with. THAT's why stock is useless, it's worth what Wall St. says it's worth. They are making moves to forever cripple our economy. I mean do you really think with double digit un-employment the Dow should be over 10,000? I mean really :24: