Type 2 diabetes can be reversed

[Tuffdisc]

Those who don't know how people get Type 2 diabetes, unlike Type 1 where you are born with it, Type 2 is something to do with too much glucose in the diet (though correct me if I am wrong)

Some people with Type 2 diabetes went on an extreme 600 calories a day diet (with supervision)

Anyhoo, here is the article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13887909

 

[Guyzerr]

Those who don't know how people get Type 2 diabetes, unlike Type 1 where you are born with it, Type 2 is something to do with too much glucose in the diet (though correct me if I am wrong)

It isn't that you are wrong it's that you aren't 100% correct .

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus

here are three main types of diabetes:

• Type 1 diabetes: results from the body's failure to produce insulin, and presently requires the person to inject insulin. (Also referred to as insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus, IDDM for short, and juvenile diabetes.)
• Type 2 diabetes: results from insulin resistance, a condition in which cells fail to use insulin properly, sometimes combined with an absolute insulin deficiency. (Formerly referred to as non-insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus, NIDDM for short, and adult-onset diabetes.)
• Gestational diabetes: is when pregnant women, who have never had diabetes before, have a high blood glucose level during pregnancy. It may precede development of type 2 DM.

There's a ton of other info out there and I used my source because it kinda answered your query quickly.

Some other info that may or may not be interesting. Métis & Aboriginal people are highly susceptible to the disease. I suppose it depends which side of the river you were born on. I was born on the wrong side apparently. Numerous males in my immediate and extended family have Type II whereas it hasn't taken over the females.... lucky them.

Some people with Type 2 diabetes went on an extreme 600 calories a day diet (with supervision)

Anyhoo, here is the article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13887909

It's been known for a long time that excessive weight is a major contributor to Type II Diabetes but to loose it on a 600 calorie pd diet is a bit extreme as far as I'm concerned.

Reading the following in the story doesn't give me a new warm fuzzy feeling because in the end it's probably no different than any other method except that it's a hell of a lot more dangerous.

"Seven out of 11 people studied were free of diabetes three months later, say findings published in the journal.

 

[freakofnature]

Type 2 Diabetes CAN be controlled through diet and exercise, though. My dad is type 2. He never went on an extreme diet but as long as he eats healthy and really watches his sugar and starch intake he's OK.

 

[Guyzerr]

Type 2 Diabetes CAN be controlled through diet and exercise, though. My dad is type 2. He never went on an extreme diet but as long as he eats healthy and really watches his sugar and starch intake he's OK.

I'm the same way. Over the last 6 years I get my blood lab tested every three months and my average is always between 6.1 & 6.3 whcih is great considering my target is not to be over 7.0. It's bloody hard work though and I do miss out on a lot of good eats most notably those Mennonite foods what you and I grew up with and love sooooooooo much.

 

[freakofnature]

I'm the same way. Over the last 6 years I get my blood lab tested every three months and my average is always between 6.1 & 6.3 whcih is great considering my target is not to be over 7.0. It's bloody hard work though and I do miss out on a lot of good eats most notably those Mennonite foods what you and I grew up with and love sooooooooo much.

:nod: I know what you mean. My mom has had to be a bit of a tyrant with my dad when it comes to meals.

 

[Guyzerr]

:nod: I know what you mean. My mom has had to be a bit of a tyrant with my dad when it comes to meals.

I am my own tyrant when it comes to meals because I know how bad it makes me feel when I cave.

 

[Panacea]

I believe borderline diabetes can be reversed, where full blown type II cannot exactly be reversed but controlled....that was said of course lol, it's good it can though. I know I was edging towards borderline diabetes, and ever since losing weight and eating well I rarely have any symptoms of funky blood sugar.

Gotta watch with the extreme caloric restriction though, I ended up on a hospital floor that way!

 

[Guyzerr]

I believe borderline diabetes can be reversed, where full blown type II cannot exactly be reversed but controlled....that was said of course lol, it's good it can though. I know I was edging towards borderline diabetes, and ever since losing weight and eating well I rarely have any symptoms of funky blood sugar.

Gotta watch with the extreme caloric restriction though, I ended up on a hospital floor that way!

Borderline diabetis is like being a little pregnant. Either you are or you aren't. Type II can be reversed by drastic lifestyle changes mainly related to diet and exercise. It doesn't work for everyone but everyone can benefit one way or the other from it.

 

[Panacea]

Borderline diabetis is like being a little pregnant. Either you are or you aren't. Type II can be reversed by drastic lifestyle changes mainly related to diet and exercise. It doesn't work for everyone but everyone can benefit one way or the other from it.

Insulin resistance is a bit more complex than conception or contracting a communicable disease, that's why the borderline diabetes diagnosis exists, I would assume. It just indicates a high risk for being clinically considered diabetic.

Wasn't disputing your latter claim.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Type 2 Diabetes CAN be controlled through diet and exercise, though. My dad is type 2. He never went on an extreme diet but as long as he eats healthy and really watches his sugar and starch intake he's OK.

It says that diabetes can be got rid of simply kick starting the insulin, as said in the article by means of extreme diet

 

[Guyzerr]

Insulin resistance is a bit more complex than conception or contracting a communicable disease, that's why the borderline diabetes diagnosis exists, I would assume. It just indicates a high risk for being clinically considered diabetic.

Wasn't disputing your latter claim.

What is borderline diabetis? Originally, borderline diabetes as meant to indicate a condition where the blood glucose levels were elevated but not yet in the "official" diabetic range. Even though people continue to use the term, borderline diabetes, it's a term that has been falling out of favor with many health professionals.

I'm not a health professional but I am in the same camp as the mentioned " many ".

Link: http://www.diabetescausestreatments.com/symptoms-of-borderline-diabetes.html

From the same link...

Common Signs of Borderline Diabetes

Experiencing any of the following three symptoms is consistent with having borderline diabetes but they are not evidence that one actually has borderline diabetes:

• Constantly being thirsty.
• Frequent need to urinate.
• Constant sense of fatigue.

Funny thing about the three mentioned symptoms for borderline diabetes is they are exactly the same as the ones for the full blown diabetes.

IMO those that subscribe to the pre-diabetes thing are just fooling themselves. All it means is a person has elevated sugar levels that will get worse if they don't get a handle on it. Very few people are diagnosed at the beginning of the disease and have been sweet for quite a while therefore their levels are usually well above what the normal is not just a wee little bit over.

 

[Guyzerr]

It says that diabetes can be got rid of simply kick starting the insulin, as said in the article by means of extreme diet

I've read the article many times and can't see where that was said. What I do get out of it though is exactly what we already know as I said in a previous post.

 

[purpledove]

I believe borderline diabetes can be reversed, where full blown type II cannot exactly be reversed but controlled....that was said of course lol, it's good it can though. I know I was edging towards borderline diabetes, and ever since losing weight and eating well I rarely have any symptoms of funky blood sugar.

Gotta watch with the extreme caloric restriction though, I ended up on a hospital floor that way!

I agree with you on everything :thumbup except the highlighted portions

Type II can be controlled yes and to some degree other DM II sufferers were able to have it reversed! It depends on certain circumstances and the diabetic's strict adherence to treatment, medical regimen and also maintaining a balanced diet and exercise. I've encountered patients who've had reversed Type II.

Borderline diabetis is like being a little pregnant. Either you are or you aren't. Type II can be reversed by drastic lifestyle changes mainly related to diet and exercise. It doesn't work for everyone but everyone can benefit one way or the other from it.

Very true :nod:

It says that diabetes can be got rid of simply kick starting the insulin, as said in the article by means of extreme diet

This can be true basing it from the article. However imo, 600 calories per day is way too extreme for someone to do esp a diabetic where blood sugars can fluctuate a lot. Given it's under the supervision of a dietitian or an MD it might work maybe for someone who's within it's IBW ( Ideal Body weight) But as we all know most diabetics tend to be on the higher side of weighing scale. Not all but most. Besides, each person's caloric needs/day depends on one's weight as computed by a dietitian. So someone who has more caloric needs, 600 surely wont be appropriate.

If someone was willing to undergo such extreme diet/caloric drop- then constant monitoring of symptoms and frequent blood sugar checks need to be ensued. But this i think can be risky.

 

[Panacea]

I'm not a health professional but I am in the same camp as the mentioned " many ".

Link: http://www.diabetescausestreatments.com/symptoms-of-borderline-diabetes.html

From the same link...

Funny thing about the three mentioned symptoms for borderline diabetes is they are exactly the same as the ones for the full blown diabetes.

IMO those that subscribe to the pre-diabetes thing are just fooling themselves. All it means is a person has elevated sugar levels that will get worse if they don't get a handle on it. Very few people are diagnosed at the beginning of the disease and have been sweet for quite a while therefore their levels are usually well above what the normal is not just a wee little bit over.

Ok :dunno
I'm not offended by the diagnosis as a concept, I think it's just a preventative measure, I would guess if a person is getting to the point diabetes is in the conversation, they know their lifestyle is bad already so it's up to them any way you phrase it.

 

[Panacea]

I agree with you on everything :thumbup except the highlighted portions

Type II can be controlled yes and to some degree other DM II sufferers were able to have it reversed! It depends on certain circumstances and the diabetic's strict adherence to treatment, medical regimen and also maintaining a balanced diet and exercise. I've encountered patients who've had reversed Type II.

:thumbup

I know that is a goal I am working on for myself with my PCOS. I'd like to reach a point where it wasn't even in the equation anymore. 90lbs down, 40 to go

 

[Zorak]

I once robbed an old man with diabetes. TBH, rubbish superpower:
I took him for all he was worth and he barely put up a fight.

 

[Guyzerr]

Ok :dunno
I would guess if a person is getting to the point diabetes is in the conversation, they know their lifestyle is bad already so it's up to them any way you phrase it.

Really? I was about 11 years old when I was told by my doctor that I would end being a diabetic and I was probably more active than any 11 year old you ever met. Even though I didn't have a clue what the disease was at the time I remember that conversation as if it took place 5 minutes ago.

 

[purpledove]

:thumbup

I know that is a goal I am working on for myself with my PCOS. I'd like to reach a point where it wasn't even in the equation anymore. 90lbs down, 40 to go

That is awesome! I am proud of yah :thumbup

More kudos given you're a Bordeline DM---> I know it must be very hard :willy_nilly:

You must be frequently checking your blood sugars eh? I hate finger sticks or any needle for that matter

 

[Panacea]

That is awesome! I am proud of yah :thumbup

More kudos given you're a Bordeline DM---> I know it must be very hard :willy_nilly:

You must be frequently checking your blood sugars eh? I hate finger sticks or any needle for that matter

Thank you!
I was never actually told I was, luckily, she just warned me it could get there if I didn't do something. I haven't ever had to test my blood sugar on my own, just a fasting glucose here and there when they were monitoring my pcos.

 

[Panacea]

Really? I was about 11 years old when I was told by my doctor that I would end being a diabetic and I was probably more active than any 11 year old you ever met. Even though I didn't have a clue what the disease was at the time I remember that conversation as if it took place 5 minutes ago.

Is a fight about to break out in the diabetes thread? I am not above arming myself with ding dongs.

I made sure I wasn't speaking categorically in my post, because I'm neither doctor nor omniscient, but your typical person diagnosed with type II diabetes (in no particular order, not all necessary) is overweight, underactive, or has a bad diet so a type II diagnosis isn't usually surprising when the doctor explains why the disease occurs.