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John McCain is suspending his campaign to go back to DC to participate in the bail out discussions.

bravo
sincerely

how long will it take Barack THE ROCK Obama to follow?
 
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John McCain is suspending his campaign to go back to DC to participate in the bail out discussions.

bravo
sincerely

how long will it take Barack THE ROCK Obama to follow?

He needs to get off the campaign trail because it's hurting him in the polls. He doesn't have a clue what's going on with the economy and every time he opens his mouth it shows.


:dunno
 

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He needs to get off the campaign trail because it's hurting him in the polls. He doesn't have a clue what's going on with the economy and every time he opens his mouth it shows.


:dunno


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that's great
but isn't his current job to be a senator from IL?
he needs to go do his job

this has been a contention of mine for a long time when candidates have other jobs like governor or senator or janitor or whatever.

make sure you still do the job you're getting paid to do while running.

i'm just sayin

Hell, I agree with you... I guess I'm just pointing out the fact that even while on the campaign trail, he is working....

This matter is still before the congress, I don't think it goes before the senate for another day or two. I'm sure Obama will be there for the debate and vote. I know he is already weighing in on it.
 

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Hell, I agree with you... I guess I'm just pointing out the fact that even while on the campaign trail, he is working....

This matter is still before the congress, I don't think it goes before the senate for another day or two. I'm sure Obama will be there for the debate and vote. I know he is already weighing in on it.

will he really vote?
or is he just gonna vote present again?

*ducks*

don't hate me

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I don't think Barack will follow suit and cancel. McCain better not go through with not showing. The debate is supposed to be on my campus (how freakin' awesome is that!!!) and there are a ton of kids here who are very republican and Pro-McCain that will be pissed off at him.

I'm watching the news and my email and crossing my fingers. If I get an email before the news says anything, I'll let y'all know!
 

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will he really vote?
or is he just gonna vote present again?

*ducks*

don't hate me

:24:


Someone who wants to be President, should be able to multi-task. :thumbup

Look up voting records, and see how many times they ALL vote "present".

McCain's "announcement" today was nothing more than political posturing.... he himself has admitted he knows little about the workings of the economy.

Hi !! :waving:
 

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Someone who wants to be President, should be able to multi-task. :thumbup

Look up voting records, and see how many times they ALL vote "present".

McCain's "announcement" today was nothing more than political posturing.... he himself has admitted he knows little about the workings of the economy.

Hi !! :waving:
And Obama is posturing also on this

Personally I think it is important enough that the pseudo leaders of their parties (Obama and McCain)
should be in Washington to lead the debate. Whoever wins the election will have to deal with the fall out

I think the absurdly long election cycle we now are forced to put up with can handle a few days off.

This legislation is the most important shit we have had to deal with in the last 100 years. They better damn well get this right. And that I am not holding much hope out for. I just hope they don't screw it up and make it worse. They being the reps and dems
 

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Someone who wants to be President, should be able to multi-task. :thumbup

Look up voting records, and see how many times they ALL vote "present".

McCain's "announcement" today was nothing more than political posturing.... he himself has admitted he knows little about the workings of the economy.

Hi !! :waving:
I'm with ya. they should be able to multi-task.
but that means doing their JOB while they're suckin ass of the american people.
they're both talking heads and while they play their stupid chess game our country is gonna go right down the poop tube.
i want the guy who isn't afraid to vote better than present.
i want the guy who will risk being wrong to stand for what he believes.
not these walking, talking asshats.

and hi!! :D
 

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There are reasons for the non-vote NV... they all do it at times.

Yeah, but Obama does it ALL THE TIME! The guy won't vote on anything that's controversial--he's the typical Democrat--another Bill Clinton--consults the opinion polls and ignores his conscience! :rolleyes
 

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THE FACTS: Obama acknowledges that over nearly eight years in the Illinois Senate, he voted "present" 129 times. That was out of roughly 4,000 votes he cast, so those "presents" amounted to about one of every 31 votes in his legislative career.
Illinois legislators often vote "present" and for a wide variety of reasons. Sometimes blocs of lawmakers do it as a protest in some dispute over rules and procedures. Obama was often joined in his "present" votes by 10 or 20 other senators.
In other cases, lawmakers do it to signal objections to the details of a measure that they support in principle. They also use "present" votes as strategic moves to defeat legislation or, of course, simply to avoid taking a firm position.
Clinton highlights several of Obama's "present" votes that she considers questionable.
Several involve abortion -- a ban on certain late-pregnancy abortions, a requirement that a minor's parents be notified and restrictions on a type of abortion where the fetus sometimes survives for short periods.
"A woman's right to choose ... demands a leader who will stand up and protect it," said one Clinton campaign mailer.
But the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council says Obama's "present" votes were actually part of a careful strategy to prevent those restrictions from passing.
President Pam Sutherland said the group feared several senators were going to vote "yes" on the legislation because of attacks from Republicans over their past opposition. Sutherland says she approached Obama and convinced him to vote "present" so that the wavering senators would do the same. For their purposes, a "present" was as good as an outright "no" because it kept the bills from reaching the majority needed to pass.
Clinton also points out that Obama was the lone "present" vote on legislation allowing the victims of rape and other sex crimes to have their court records sealed. Obama explains now that he had questions about its constitutionality, although the law has never been struck down by the courts.
Neither the Illinois Coalition Against Sexual Assault nor the House sponsor of the legislation faults Obama for his vote. Former state representative Lauren Beth Gash, who supports Obama for president, said she ultimately disagreed with his constitutional concerns but that Obama raised legitimate questions and was acting on principle.
Obama also voted "present" on legislation making it easier to send juveniles to adult court. He said in debate that he felt the measure violated an agreement, reached after an overhaul of the juvenile justice system a year earlier, to wait on further changes until the new system had been reviewed.
But he did not explain why he wasn't simply voting "no."
 

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And in the US Senate, you cannot vote present. It's Yea, Nay or No Vote.

In the current session of the Senate John McCain missed 64% of the votes, Obama missed 45%


So how does voting present even have any bearing to these discussions? This was when he was a state senator, not as a US Senator.
 
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