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[mazHur]

tell us about aisha

Well, I don't believe the Earth is as flat as a flat chest !

 

[skyblue]

Well, I don't believe the Earth is as flat as a flat chest !

so tell us what the messiah did to his child bride...and stop talking in riddles

 

[mazHur]

When I don't believe how can I accept the tale!!

 

[skyblue]

When I don't believe how can I accept the tale!!

in denial that the messiah had sex with a 9 year old girl,little more than a baby?

 

[mazHur]

Denial in the same way as most of Christians deny the Bible in toto and Jesus too.
It's not possible to accept all tales contained in the Arabian Nights. Go read them and take them for true, if you like.

 

[skyblue]

Denial in the same way as most of Christians deny the Bible in toto and Jesus too.
It's not possible to accept all tales contained in the Arabian Nights. Go read them and take them for true, if you like.

its well documented what mohammed did,and for that very reason sex with little girls is illegal in muslim countries even though the authorities turn a blind eye to it in case they offend the messiah

 

[mazHur]

its well documented what mohammed did,and for that very reason sex with little girls is illegal in muslim countries even though the authorities turn a blind eye to it in case they offend the messiah

We follow the British law. Stories have been concocted in the same way stories have been concocted about Jesus and Mary and the Bible and Torah and Talmud and other personalities and writings. It is not ncessary for me to agree with what others say (or you say). Stay happy with your 'imagination' and the baloney you trust to be true.

 

[mazHur]

you may go through foll link to see where actually one whose feet the fire is burning... Show me a single proof of its legitimacy in the Quran, if you dare!

In the United States, about 50% of men arrested for pedophilia are married.

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1. Pedophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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   As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia (or paedophilia) is defined as a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents ... In the United States, following Kansas v. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia - Cached More results from en.wikipedia.org »
2. Pedophilia a ‘sexual orientation’ experts tell Parliament ... “In my opinion, society and no one around this table will accept pedophilia, even if it is a sexual orientation,” said Lemay, ... Even in the United States, ... www.lifesitenews.com/news/pedophilia-a-sexual... - Cached
3. CROUSE: Normalizing Penn State pedophilia ... to declare that pedophilia should not be included in the list of abnormal behaviors. ... all because the lies have been packaged for us so nicely. www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/17/...state-pedophilia - Cached
4. Concerned Women for America - Pedophilia — Normal or Cause ... Pedophilia is only a problem when it falls within certain narrowly specified criminal categories. ... Surely, the skeptic in all of us wants to cry out, ... www.cwfa.org/content.asp?id=20758 - Cached
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9. Who are the child molesters among us? Who are the child molesters among us? By Karen Thomas, USA TODAY Statistics on pedophilia are as difficult to come by as anecdotes are easy. The definition ... www.usatoday.com/life/2002/2002-03-12-pedophilia.htm - Cached More results from usatoday.com »
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[Alien Allen]

what has that got to do with anything?

57% of adult males in the US are married so what did you expect ?

only the 43% that are not married are perverts?

nice diversion though I guess

 

[mazHur]

Power to you!

'Pedophilia "has been here for a long time, only it's more well known today," says Ruben Rodriguez,'
"The social stigma of being a victim is being overcome, and it's more acceptable to come forward. A lot of kids come forward to protect other kids, and society is better about saying, 'It's not your fault.' " Whether certain professions — such as the clergy — draw sexual deviants isn't clear. But most agree that child molesters can be found in any environment. "I've known MBAs, CEOs, janitors, grocery clerks. The pure numbers indicate that they're everywhere," Burton says.''





''The Internet makes it easier for sexual predators to act out, Rodriguez says. "It gets to the point when (porn) is not sufficient. ... Then they get on the Internet and find like-minded individuals who give them a lot of validation."

'Most sexual offenders were sexually abused as children; 40% to 80% of pedophiles were raped as a child, Burton says. "The large majority of them learn to do what they do. Others we don't understand as well." Pedophiles often target and abuse children who are the same age the predator was when he was first sexually abused.'

http://www.usatoday.com/life/2002/2002-03-12-pedophilia.htm

 

[skyblue]

the difference is that in the west,when caught those responsible are punished...in countries like pakistan the victim is often punished,especially if female

 

[mazHur]

Everyone is punished here for crimes committed. All depends on witnesses and evidence. Those who escape the law don't seem to have evidence against them.

 

[Francis]

you may go through foll link to see where actually one whose feet the fire is burning... Show me a single proof of its legitimacy in the Quran, if you dare!

The following are summaries of pages discussing Islam, in relation to pedophilia:
[h=3]Pedophilia in the Qur'an[/h] Main Article: Pedophilia in the Qur'an
The Qur'an permits pedophilia. The following Qur'anic verse allows sex with pre-pubescent girls who have not yet menstruated.
And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

Qur'an 65:4
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What is being discussed is the Iddat (العدة‎), which is a waiting period a female must observe before she can remarry. According to this verse, the stipulated waiting period for a divorced girl who has not yet menstruated is three months.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia

http://quran.com/65/4

 

[mazHur]

Nonsense....false. You quoted the lines out of context. The verses apply to divorced or widowed women or those going PMS not virgins or little girls. the verse starts with ''And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women -.....'' this makes all clear.

I haven't seen this practiced..........but, in your vanity and hate for Islam, you are talking about ''pedophilia' not about solemn act of 'marriage'. Why do you think these both could be the same?
In Non-Muslim Africa and other tribal systems, even among the Hindu's one can find instances of child marriage but they don't seem to bother you, why??

 

[Alien Allen]

keep on denying

facts are facts

it gives a wink and a nod to having sex with children

you can call that love/marriage or whatever you like it will put you in jail in a civilized society.

of course they have to put in a wink and a nod as it was ok for M to have sex with child

I bet a lot of men caught going after children here would love to be able to use Quaran as their enabler to prey on children.

 

[mazHur]

keep on denying

facts are facts

it gives a wink and a nod to having sex with children

you can call that love/marriage or whatever you like it will put you in jail in a civilized society.

of course they have to put in a wink and a nod as it was ok for M to have sex with child

I bet a lot of men caught going after children here would love to be able to use Quaran as their enabler to prey on children.

Yes, they must study Quran for guidance where Adultery, fornication and rape are punishable by lashes and death, a thief's hands then feet are cut; a robber is hanged. Ofcourse western 'civilization' seems to be averse of such punishments stating as harsh, hence rising crimes there.

Since there is nothing about child marriage in the Quran or your favorite pedophilia I take total exception to what you said-not facts, but history!! And as everyone knows 'history is a bundle of lies''!!

Here is a historical account of Child marriage, excluding the rejected idea of Aisha which some posters like you want to force on me!!
Go wonder!


[h=3]North America[/h] [h=4]Canada[/h] In Canada under 16s can get married if they are pregnant and have the court's approval .[SUP][41][/SUP] People are on average 33 when they are married.[SUP][42][/SUP]
[h=4]United States[/h] Laws regarding child marriage vary in the different states of the United States. Generally, children 16 and over may marry with parental consent, with the age of 18 being the minimum in all but two states to marry without parental consent. Those under 16 generally require a court order in addition to parental consent.[SUP][43][/SUP]
Until 2008 the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints practiced child marriage through the concept of 'spiritual (religious only) marriages,' as soon as girls are ready to bear children, as part of its polygamy practice and laws have raised the age of legal marriage in response to criticism of the practice.[SUP][44][/SUP] In 2008 the Church changed its policy in the United States to no longer marry individuals younger than the local legal age.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] In 2007 church leader Warren Jeffs was convicted of being an accomplice to statutory rape of a minor due to arranging a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and a 19-year-old man.[SUP][45][/SUP] In March 2008 the state of Texas believed that children at the Yearning For Zion Ranch were being married to adults and were being abused.[SUP][46][/SUP] The state of Texas removed all 468 children from the ranch and placed them into temporary state custody.[SUP][46][/SUP] After the Austin's 3rd Court of Appeals and the Texas Supreme Court ruled that Texas acted improperly in removing them from the YFZ Ranch, the children were returned to their parents or relatives.[SUP][47][/SUP]


[h=3]European Judaism[/h]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putative_marriage
Dissolution of marriage
Issues affecting children

In Ashkenazi communities in the Middle Ages girls were married off very young in the Jewish community.[SUP][1][/SUP] Despite the young threshold for marriage a large age gap between the spouses was opposed.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] Child marriage was possible in Judaism due to the very low marriageable age for females. A ketannah (literally meaning little [one]) was any girl between the age of 3 years and that of 12 years plus one day;[SUP][4][/SUP] a ketannah was completely subject to her father's authority, and her father could arrange a marriage for her without her agreement.[SUP][4][/SUP] If the father was dead or missing the brothers of the ketannah, collectively, had the right to arrange a marriage for her, as had her mother,[SUP][4][/SUP] although in these situations a ketannah would always have the right to annul her marriage even if it was the first.[SUP][5][/SUP] According to the Talmud a father is commanded not to marry his daughter to anyone until she grows up and says 'I want this one'.[SUP][6][/SUP] A marriage that takes place without the consent of the girl is not an effective legal marriage.[SUP][7][/SUP] If the marriage did end (due to divorce or the husband's death), any further marriages were optional; the ketannah had the right to annul them.[SUP][5][/SUP] The choice of a ketannah to annul a marriage, known in Hebrew as mi'un (literally meaning refusal/denial/protest),[SUP][5][/SUP] lead to a true annulment, not a divorce; a divorce document (get) was not necessary,[SUP][8][/SUP] and a ketannah who did this was not regarded by legal regulations as a divorcee, in relation to the marriage.[SUP][9][/SUP] Unlike divorce, mi'un was regarded with distaste by many rabbinic writers,[SUP][5][/SUP] even in the Talmud;[SUP][10][/SUP] in earlier classical Judaism, one major faction - the House of Shammai - argued that such annulment rights only existed during the betrothal period (erusin) and not once the actual marriage (nissu'in) had begun.[SUP][11][/SUP]

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[Francis]

Nonsense....false. You quoted the lines out of context. The verses apply to divorced or widowed women or those going PMS not virgins or little girls. the verse starts with ''And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women -.....'' this makes all clear.

I haven't seen this practiced..........but, in your vanity and hate for Islam, you are talking about ''pedophilia' not about solemn act of 'marriage'. Why do you think these both could be the same?
In Non-Muslim Africa and other tribal systems, even among the Hindu's one can find instances of child marriage but they don't seem to bother you, why??

You see with your eyes closed.. At least in North America we know what is happening and we can admit it.. You deny everything including the fact Osama was actually in Pakistan. BE A MAN AND ADMIT something and that is that you have no credibility.

In many Islamic countries, child marriages are common practice. Girls far below the age of puberty are forcibly married to older persons (sometimes in their 50s and later) for various personal gains by the girls' guardian. Pedophilic Islamic marriages are most prevalent in Pakistan and Afghanistan, followed by other countries in the Middle East and Bangladesh. This practice may also be prevalent to a lesser extent amongst other Muslim communities, and is worryingly on the rise among the growing Muslim populations in many Western countries, such as the United Kingdom and the United States.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Contemporary_Pedophilic_Islamic_Marriages

 

[mazHur]

[h=3]quote-----
''Marriage is not rape nor pedophilia. Those who hate the institution of marriage are mentally sick idiots!''[/h]
[h=1]Marriageable age[/h]

• Pakistan: 18 for males, 16 for females.[SUP][43][/SUP]

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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age
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[Francis]

Canada

In Canada under 16s can get married if they are pregnant and have the court's approval .[SUP][41][/SUP] People are on average 33 when they are married.[SUP][42][/SUP]

Old news buddy... Laws in North America ( Canada ) Change..

The age of consent for sexual activity is 16 years. It was raised from 14 years on May 1, 2008 by the Tackling Violent Crime Act.

However, the age of consent is 18 years where the sexual activity "exploits" the young person -- when it involves prostitution, pornography or occurs in a relationship of authority, trust or dependency (e.g., with a teacher, coach or babysitter). Sexual activity can also be considered exploitative based on the nature and circumstances of the relationship, e.g., the young person's age, the age difference between the young person and their partner, how the relationship developed (quickly, secretly, or over the Internet) and how the partner may have controlled or influenced the young person.

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/dept-min/clp/faq.html

 

[mazHur]

You see with your eyes closed.. At least in North America we know what is happening and we can admit it.. You deny everything including the fact Osama was actually in Pakistan. BE A MAN AND ADMIT something and that is that you have no credibility.

Since you are making stories you must prove them too....with 'concrete proof'.
Otherwise just stop loose balling !

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Contemporary_Pedophilic_Islamic_Marriages

I am not interested in crap....The bet between us was for you to point out where the Quran allowed ''pedophilia'' or the kinds of 'sins' that engulf much of the so-called civilized world. I say this because 'affluence ' and ostensible prosperity doesn't go in the making of a civilized entity...in fact each and every person of the civilized society ought to demonstrate reasonable civility towards others and should have respect for all!! Sorry, I find something lacking in here!