The Violent Oppression of Muslim Women - Warning, disturbing video

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retro

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A disturbing look at the treatment of women in Islamic/Muslim countries. It's an incredibly powerful video to be honest, though you definitely wouldn't want to watch it with children around or anything. A friend of mine sent this video to me yesterday and I just got around to watching it this morning. I knew some of the stuff that is included, but not nearly all of it.

Edit: Mods --- feel free to move this to religion or something. I thought I was in the debate forum when I posted it.

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You haven't had enough time to watch it yet... and the provable facts, pictures, video clips, along with quotes from the Qur'an speak for themselves.
 

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I live among Muslims....about 800million around me and I can guess what are you upto.....and beyond the pale!
 

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Figures maz would be the first to comment. This reminds me of edgray's thread about God and religion being the ones to thank for the sick, fucked up corrupted world we live in.
 

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Hehehehe!! fake propaganda!!

see....this is the problem,ask anyone on here if they're culture,country or religion is perfect and they'd say no...but you cant see the obvious flaws in yours...its common knowledge that women are abused in ialamic countries and that sex with little girls is overlooked so as not to put mohammed in a bad light..and dont even get me started on the issue of forced female circumcision
 
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Watched it on my phone.

Yeah... about defines "NSFW"... and also "disgusting".

Is it propaganda as mazHur claims?
Propaganda is defined as "Information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group,movement, institution, nation, etc."
Is the purpose of this video to harm the Islamic movement, particularity it's approach to women's rights? You're damn right it is.

However, note that the definition states "information" as a possible aspect of propaganda. So, it is possible for propaganda to be truthful.

When one throws around the word "propaganda" it automatically conjures images of Goebells and the "Cathedral of Light" in Nurnberg- thousands of fanatic yet misled people collectively swallowing "the big lie".

However, by definition all news agencies are in the propaganda business. Fox for the right, CNN for the left and so on. The question that we have to ask ourselves when we view this is "What is the reality and what is the spin?" Where is the nugget of "truth"?

Retro's video does a credible job of supporting it's position. The images and, more disturbing, the videos of these atrocities; the naming of specific victims and the quotes directly attributed to specific people make a solid case for the position stated. The insinuation that this is "business as usual" instead of the exception is where the "spin" comes in.

Do I believe that women are being stoned in downtown Riyadh simply because Saudia Arabia is a Muslim country? No.
Do I believe that EVERY Muslim man routinely beats his wife or kills his sister if she's been raped? No.
Do I believe that the purpose of this video, at least in part, is to further inflame the 9/11 sentiments to damn the Muslim world? Yes.

However... the fact that these crimes are commited in parts of the world and are not even classified AS crimes is something that cannot be ignored.

These acts DO occur. Women that have been subjected to rape ARE further victimized by society and, even worse, their own family. Little girls are mutiliated in an effort to remove the temptation of sex in later life. Women are terrorized with the blessings of the Muslim clergy in the name of Sharia.


Thanks for the video, Retro.
 

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Does anybody else see the irony in a poster creating a thread insinuating that the practice of pouring a few ounces of water on an infant girl's forehead is somehow child abuse and cruel but cannot accept that holding that same little girl down 5 years later and cutting off her clitoris is wrong just a few hours later?
 

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Does anybody else see the irony in a poster creating a thread insinuating that the practice of pouring a few ounces of water on an infant girl's forehead is somehow child abuse and cruel but cannot accept that holding that same little girl down 5 years later and cutting off her clitoris is wrong just a few hours later?

Maz's posts make me sick. I think there is seriously something wrong with his brain.
 

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Maz's posts make me sick. I think there is seriously something wrong with his brain.

Ditto. There's been a few times where I just wanted to ask him if he's broken. His posts make me realize how lucky I am to have been born in the US, and how much more work the world needs.
 
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