The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?

[Panacea]

One cannot react without first thinking of reacting.
The mind controls our reactions. Reactions do not control the mind.

Regards
DL

Different thoughts have different values. Reactive thoughts are cheap. Charge more!

 

[Stone]

One cannot react without first thinking of reacting.
The mind controls our reactions. Reactions do not control the mind.

Regards
DL

One cannot react without first thinking of reacting.

You do realize that is a freewill argument?

The mind controls our reactions.

Some do it better than others as I keep pointing out to you

Reactions do not control the mind.

And yet you argue otherwise when it comes to religion.


I suggest you practice thinking

 

[Stone]

One cannot react without first thinking of reacting.
The mind controls our reactions. Reactions do not control the mind.

Regards
DL

Because of your post in the Religious forum where you equate revenge to a moral position,
http://www.offtopicz.net/showthread...st-to-Victim&p=2191568&viewfull=1#post2191568
did you put any thought into the benefits of forgiveness versus revenge?

Interesting read here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgiveness#Research
excerpt>

Studies show that people who forgive are happier and healthier than those who hold resentments.[6] The first study to look at how forgiveness improves physical health discovered that when people think about forgiving an offender it leads to improved functioning in their cardiovascular and nervous systems.[7] Another study at the University of Wisconsin found the more forgiving people were, the less they suffered from a wide range of illnesses. The less forgiving people reported a greater number of health problems.

One cannot react without first thinking of reacting.

What were you thinking about when you equated revenge to a moral positive?

Reactions do not control the mind.

Perhaps hate can?

 

[Greatest I am]

Perhaps hate can?

Where is your hate from if not your mind?

Is it controlled or generated by your mind or your reactions?

Regards
DL

 

[Stone]

Where is your hate from if not your mind?

Is it controlled or generated by your mind or your reactions?

Regards
DL

Where is your hate from if not your mind?

That is definitely where it resides as an emotion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion
excerpt>

Emotion is a complex psychophysiological experience of an individual's state of mind as interacting with biochemical (internal) and environmental (external) influences. In humans, emotion fundamentally involves "physiological arousal, expressive behaviors, and conscious experience."[1] Emotion is associated with mood, temperament, personality, disposition, and motivation. Motivations direct and energize behavior, while emotions provide the affective component to motivation, positive or negative.[2]

No definitive emotion classification system exists, though numerous taxonomies have been proposed. Some categorizations include:[citation needed]

"Cognitive" versus "non-cognitive" emotions [3]
Instinctual emotions (from the amygdala), versus cognitive emotions (from the prefrontal cortex).[citation needed]
Universal emotions recognized cross-culturally based on research on identification of facial expressions [4]

Which is interesting....because while it is a status of the mind, it's also a concept that has traits of it's own.
Generated in the mind by outside influences.
This is where your status seems to apply.......your religious influences are seemingly responsible for the hate you expel in the direction of Christians because you don't have the mental will power to ascertain belief systems logically/theologically while experiencing those extreme emotions you have embraced.
As with the fundamentalist, you've allowed emotions to build a rigid belief system so brittle in order to maintain your own faith, it is a detriment to your mental health and you no longer recognize the hate within you.


let's review:
you posted:

One cannot react without first thinking of reacting.

I responded:

What were you thinking about when you equated revenge to a moral positive?

you posted:

Reactions do not control the mind.

I responded:

Perhaps hate can?

You posted

Where is your hate from if not your mind?

Interesting, You claim all the hate in you was of your own doing with out any input from an external source.
That also makes you truly unique.

Is it controlled or generated by your mind or your reactions?

From observing you, I'd say it's poorly controlled, probably generated by several factors including mental status and most likely reinforced by the reaction to failure.
Perhaps that's why embracing it is so dangerous. It's said to even feed off itself.


Since I don't have a license to practice, that diagnosis was free
Run to the light, GIA

 

[Greatest I am]

Like most psychobabble, yours is useless and off the mark.

Regards
DL

 

[Stone]

Like most psychobabble, yours is useless and off the mark.

Regards
DL

I sense some bitterness towards me again.
Something I posted?



Personally....I enjoy our little chats. ( a lot )

 

[Minor Axis]

The land of the free. Fact or meaningless rhetoric?

40000 new laws went into effect at the first of this year. Land of the free?????

Obviously "freedom" is a relative term beheld by the utterer.

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose!

 

[Accountable]

Obviously "freedom" is a relative term beheld by the utterer.

No argument here.



psst. it's spelled "lose"

 

[Stone]

Obviously "freedom" is a relative term ....................................

Agreed.......

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Freedom to do what?

I'd be curious to know how much the military has spent over the last ten years, in comparison to the amount spent on say, education, or healthcare.

 

[Minor Axis]

Freedom to do what?

I'd be curious to know how much the military has spent over the last ten years, in comparison to the amount spent on say, education, or healthcare.

You know back in the early 50's General/President Eisenhower, a good Republican warned of the military industrial complex, as in what happens if it is let to run rampant. That industrial production for the purpose of war is not nearly as beneficial to a society as money spent on domestic programs that improves society, our infrastructure, etc.

 

[Accountable]

Yup. Military corporations such as Boeing, Lockheed, & Haliburton pay politicians to keep feeding them tax-paid contracts just like GE, RNC, DNC, & BoA do. We need to get all of them out of our political and legislative processes.

 

[Stone]

Yup. Military corporations such as Boeing, Lockheed, & Haliburton pay politicians to keep feeding them tax-paid contracts just like GE, RNC, DNC, & BoA do. We need to get all of them out of our political and legislative processes.

Agreed...but I'd include lobbyists from corporations to unions at the same time.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

As with anything found on the web these days, I'd take these ideas with a pinch of salt until someone can verify the facts, but if this is true, then George Bush certainly bothered God unnecessarily on behalf of the Constitution.

I tend to be very cynical about the use of religion to justify nationalism, reminds me too much of these guys..........

 

[Greatest I am]

I sense some bitterness towards me again.
Something I posted?



Personally....I enjoy our little chats. ( a lot )

Bitterness! No.

Disappointment and sorrow at seeing a mind wasted. Yes.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Yup. Military corporations such as Boeing, Lockheed, & Haliburton pay politicians to keep feeding them tax-paid contracts just like GE, RNC, DNC, & BoA do. We need to get all of them out of our political and legislative processes.

In our oligarchies. Never.
Perhaps when we become timocratic. If people ever wake up.

Regards
DL

 

[Stone]

In our oligarchies. Never.
Perhaps when we become timocratic. If people ever wake up.

Regards
DL

Wikipedia offers two concepts to 'timocrat'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timocracy

a state where only property owners may participate in government
a government in which love of honor is the ruling principle[1]

Which one do you refer to and seeing the second one as stated, how does your hatred for opposing religions and your claims of being a god-like entity with infinite wisdom apply, if that's the model you refer to?

This comment was also interesting:

The more extreme forms of timocracy, where power derives from wealth rather than honor, may shift in their form and become a plutocracy where the wealthy and powerful use their power to entrench their wealth.

Doesn't sound like a concept representing a republic nor a democracy.

More like rule by the elite, or at least the official intellectual elite.


I think I'll call bullshit on replacing an oligarchy with a timocracy.
It looks like a power shift with much of the same group in charge as an oligarchy.

 

[Stone]

Bitterness! No.

Disappointment and sorrow at seeing a mind wasted. Yes.

Regards
DL

Stop looking in the mirror

 

[Stone]

Timocracy sounds like it has some elements of neo-conservative/Straussian theory in it.
Rule by the intellectual elite.

Interesting article here on neocon theory of ruling elites that Strauss was pushing:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6750.htm

Arrogance of ruling elites:

The ancients denied that there is any natural right to liberty. Human beings are born neither free nor equal. The natural human condition is not one of freedom, but of subordination. And in Strauss's estimation, they were right in thinking that there is only one natural right - the right of the superior to rule over the inferior - the master over the slave, the husband over the wife, and the wise few over the vulgar many. As to the pursuit of happiness - what could the vulgar do with happiness except drink, gamble, and fornicate?