The Job Defines the Person?

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Gabriel Zero

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If you like someone and think well of them, then later find out they have a job that isn't impressive, would that change your view of them?

Some kids get stuck with tons of responsibility because of real life problems. Parents and school systems don't always pull through. I know a few friends who had to pull their brothers and sisters through elementary school, because their dad or mom walked out on them.

A good old honest boring job is a lot to some people who have nothing.

What do you think?
 
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I'm not working, but that's not my fault. :(

Honestly, it doesn't matter me. What matters is the person, and all the little things that make them who they are. :)

HEHE sorry I was just referencing the working part to anyone who is actually working. As in like is a CEO better than a gas station attendent. In that light I feel neither is better than the other. Sure one makes more, but it doesn't make that person better.

I didn't mean it as in as long as they are working and not laying around all day type of answer. ;)
 

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HEHE sorry I was just referencing the working part to anyone who is actually working. As in like is a CEO better than a gas station attendent. In that light I feel neither is better than the other. Sure one makes more, but it doesn't make that person better.

I didn't mean it as in as long as they are working and not laying around all day type of answer. ;)

I understand exactly... and I agree. :nod:
 

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It's the good old honest boring jobs that keep things going in this world.

I got a lot of respect for those people.

Without them, I'm lost :nod:
 

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If you like someone and think well of them, then later find out they have a job that isn't impressive, would that change your view of them?

Some kids get stuck with tons of responsibility because of real life problems. Parents and school systems don't always pull through. I know a few friends who had to pull their brothers and sisters through elementary school, because their dad or mom walked out on them.

A good old honest boring job is a lot to some people who have nothing.

What do you think?

I think that people who judge others on their joba re shallow sons of bitches who will end up disapointed if that's their outlook on others
 

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I think that people who judge others on their joba re shallow sons of bitches who will end up disapointed if that's their outlook on others

Don't you think that the person's employment is just one of the many things you use to establish your take on that person? Say the person has a Phd from the University of Chicago in economics but works the counter at McDonalds because he doesn't want the pressure. (Please spare me the crap about rapping McDonalds, its an example not a life statement.) Seems to me you could fairly articulate that the person lacks ambition and if that is trait you like in a person (ambition that is) your chances of a meaningful relationship with this person are small.
 

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No. People do what they need to do in order to live. And Canidae has is spot on- it's like Dirty Jobs. People do things that I could not ever possibly do and it makes my life nice and clean, and I appreciate those people so much. Possibly more than office people, because they (usually) work very physical, grueling jobs.
 

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Don't you think that the person's employment is just one of the many things you use to establish your take on that person? Say the person has a Phd from the University of Chicago in economics but works the counter at McDonalds because he doesn't want the pressure. (Please spare me the crap about rapping McDonalds, its an example not a life statement.) Seems to me you could fairly articulate that the person lacks ambition and if that is trait you like in a person (ambition that is) your chances of a meaningful relationship with this person are small.


So maybe he's realised there is more to life than just work? There are any number of good reasons why he may be working in McDonalds so who am I to judge him on that?
 

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I've certainly been guilty of thinking that way many years ago. Largely it changed for me when I took 6 months off paternity leave. I got a job working 4am to 11am (since paternity leave didn't actually mean getting paid) and I drove a small lorry for WHSmith! Lmfao, I went from Financial Adviser earning the most I ever did, to being a blue collar guy and frikking loved it. Best job I ever had. If only it had paid any sort of money I would have loved to have carried on doing that forever! Yes it was menial and nothing, but no job gave me more pleasure.

And it changed my outlook. At first when I started working there I used to give people the full explanation when I was introduced, so they didn't think I was a bit of a failure I suppose. But I soon learned that (a) it's none of their business WHY I'm doing what I'm doing and (b) I met people far more intelligent and humane in that job than I ever do working with brokers, accountants, solicitors and fellow advisers
 

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no... Jobs are jobs... who gives a shit esp. with the struggling economy. Around here it's nothing but part time work, unless u work for a big company doing tech support. I know people with college degrees that aren't even getting great jobs and they're still decent people.

I used to do line cooking and bottle redemption for part time jobs, but that doesn't make me any less of a person who is working behind a desk.
 

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So maybe he's realised there is more to life than just work? There are any number of good reasons why he may be working in McDonalds so who am I to judge him on that?

And they maybe valid reasons to him but that doesn't mean you have to ignore your need for an ambitious person does it? Its not judging him, its being aware of what you want. Big difference.
 

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I worked in many places and met many people with so many different types of jobs, I worked along with rich folks, business folks and some blue collar folks. It doesn't matter to me what type of job you have, the person's character and personality is most important to me.
 

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And they maybe valid reasons to him but that doesn't mean you have to ignore your need for an ambitious person does it? Its not judging him, its being aware of what you want. Big difference.


Maybe his ambitions lie outside of work? You can get a good job but if you dont enjoy it, what honestly is the point in wasting your whole life doing it?
 

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Maybe his ambitions lie outside of work? You can get a good job but if you dont enjoy it, what honestly is the point in wasting your whole life doing it?

I think you may be missing the point of the question. The question as posed in the first post:
If you like someone and think well of them, then later find out they have a job that isn't impressive, would that change your view of them?
The question does not relate to the person without the impressive job, the questions relates to YOUR view of that person. My point is that some people have certain wants and needs; one of those needs could be being with someone who has ambition. That doesn't make the person shallow; they are just recognizing their needs.
 

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Not having a good job dosen't denote lack of ambition though, there are many, many things you can be ambitious about which arn't a job.
 
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