The End Justifies The Means. Agree/Disagree

[The Joker]

Hey, here's another poll. Vote!

With this one, I agree.

If I had to kill 200 people, to make it impossible for anyone to die, I'd do it. As an example.

I think the end justifies the means 8D

 

[Peter Parka]

It's too difficuly to answer seeing you dont know what the end will be. Obviously killing Hitler in his cot at birth would be good but we have hindsight about it which you wouldn't have had in the late 19th century.

 

[dt3]

It depends on the situation :dunno

 

[thatguyjeff]

What good could possibly come from no one every dying?

 

[Hans]

You cant ask if the end justifies the means without an example. it only applies to one thought at a time.

 

[Minor Axis]

It depends what the "means" are. As a blanket rule, the end does not justify the means if you forgo your integrity, your standards, your soul to achieve an objective.

 

[The Joker]

It's too difficuly to answer seeing you dont know what the end will be. Obviously killing Hitler in his cot at birth would be good but we have hindsight about it which you wouldn't have had in the late 19th century.

I don't mean that sort of thing.

I mean like what I said, something like you;d get world peace, but you'd have to kill a million innocent people.

 

[Natasha]

I'm on the fence on this one. I mean, if 200 people dying could save the lives of billions then obviously there's something to think about...BUT in this current day and age, people couldn't AFFORD to live forever!!!

 

[The Joker]

Well you wouldn't starve to death. I mean live forever in the sense that you are immortal, nothing can kill you.

 

[Natasha]

Actually I was thinking more in terms of healthcare. I mean, nothing might be able to kill you, but you could still be sick as hell.

 

[Minor Axis]

Did anyone read the following ethics question in a Newsweek article? I wish I had saved it. Maybe I can scrounge up a link. There were several choices poised in questions.

Here is one example: 1) Kill your noisy child so that you and a group of fugitives hiding from the enemy will not be found out. 2) Allow the child to cry out, giving your group away and all of you will be killed.

For the purpose of this dilemma quieting the child by other means is not an alternative. I don't think most parents could do it.

 

[CapsaicinHigh]

Well you wouldn't starve to death. I mean live forever in the sense that you are immortal, nothing can
kill you.

A better question would be would you really want to live forever? I think the pleasures that we get out of life are only pleasurable because we can't always have them. I don't think there can be life without death. That's just like having day without night. Without night, it wouldn't be day anymore, there just wouldn't be a concept of it. :eek

 

[Minor Axis]

A better question would be would you really want to live forever? I think the pleasures that we get out of life are only pleasurable because we can't always have them. I don't think there can be life without death. That's just like having day without night. Without night, it wouldn't be day anymore, there just wouldn't be a concept of it. :eek

How about existence in another plain after death? It's just a plausible as turning the lights out. Of course either assumption is just that with no guarantee of being correct.

 

[CapsaicinHigh]

How about existence in another plain after death? It's just a plausible as turning the lights out. Of course either assumption is just that with no guarantee of being correct.

Well then we are talking about the big life after death question, which brings us back to the original question if the ends justify the means . . . in that sense maybe it depends if you believe in an afterlife or not? Then we could talk about radical Islamic terrorists who believe in just that. :willy_nilly:

 

[Minor Axis]

Well then we are talking about the big life after death question, which brings us back to the original question if the ends justify the means . . . in that sense maybe it depends if you believe in an afterlife or not? Then we could talk about radical Islamic terrorists who believe in just that. :willy_nilly:

Actually I think you deflected the discussion in this direction.