The Bush Administration's Most Despicable Act

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"This is not the America I know," President George W. Bush said after the first, horrifying pictures of U.S. troops torturing prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq surfaced in April 2004. The President was not telling the truth. "This" was the America he had authorized on Feb. 7, 2002, when he signed a memorandum stating that the Third Geneva Convention — the one regarding the treatment of enemy prisoners taken in wartime — did not apply to members of al-Qaeda or the Taliban. That signature led directly to the abuses at Abu Ghraib and Guantánamo Bay. It was his single most callous and despicable act. It stands at the heart of the national embarrassment that was his presidency. Read more.......
 
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The Myth of Bush’s Torture Regime
Dissecting the anatomy of a smear


ANDREW C. McCARTHY

The question was whether terrorists should get the privileges the Geneva Conventions grant to honorable combatants. The answer was firm: “We must not, and need not, give recognition and protection to terrorist groups as a price for progress in humanitarian law.”

These are the words not of George W. Bush but of the Washington Post. The editors were approvingly quoting Pres. Ronald Reagan, in a 1987 editorial supporting Reagan’s refusal to sign “Protocol I,” an addendum to Geneva that extended to terrorists the Conventions’ ban on the compulsory interrogation of lawful combatants. The New York Times, too, recoiled at the thought of “giving terrorists the status of POWs.”

What a difference two decades of journalistic rot make. For the last seven years of war against terrorists, the antiwar Left, using the megaphone of a compliant press, has woven a Bush “torture narrative.” As related in the book War by Other Means, by former Justice Department official John Yoo, author of the 2002 DOJ guidance commonly libeled as “the torture memo,” it goes like this: “The Bush administration used torture to extract information from al-Qaeda leaders, and decided to use the same methods on the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, whom it deprived of Geneva Conventions protections for precisely this purpose. Harsh interrogation methods became part of military culture and ‘migrated’ to Iraq, where they produced the horrible abuses at Abu Ghraib.” The tale is a mountain of politicized lies built on kernels of intentional legal ambiguity.

THE RULES OF CIVILIZED WAR
We begin with a brute fact: The barbarism of international terrorism defies the existing system of multilateral treaties and domestic statutes that guide the treatment of captives. In the case of the treaties, this must be so: The animating idea of the Geneva Conventions, adopted in 1949 after the carnage of two world wars, was to civilize warfare. Belligerents opted into the system by conduct. The benefits accorded to lawful combatants (i.e., honorable POWs) included an absolute prohibition against any penalties for resisting interrogation — hence the familiar phrase, only “name, rank, and serial number.” But warriors had to earn these benefits by heeding the laws of war: Be part of a regular army, wear uniforms, carry weapons openly, and, most essentially, refrain from endangering civilians.

The Conventions, moreover, were traditional treaties. Geneva benefited neither states that declined to join nor factions ineligible to join because they were not states. And because the parties who did join were sovereign governments, Geneva was to be policed diplomatically; it vested no rights in individual citizens, much less rights enforceable in the judicial courts of member countries.

Global jihadist networks turn such a system on its head. Their modus operandi is to endanger civilians, directly by mass-destruction attacks and indirectly by blending into the population, complicating reprisals. Plus, as non-state actors they are not burdened by obligations that make sovereigns vulnerable: Territorial conquest and economic sanctions are not viable strategies for quelling them.

Two elementary facts follow. First, terrorists cannot opt into Geneva. They fall outside because, by definition, they reject its minimum humanitarian requirements. Affording them Geneva’s benefits rewards their savagery and undermines the system’s civilizing objectives.

Second, intelligence-gathering is imperative in this war as in no other. Because terror cells defy standard military and diplomatic countermeasures, they can be thwarted only by information: identifying their operatives, hideouts, motivations, targets, and methods. Unless covert agents infiltrate the inner sanctums of terror networks (which is extraordinarily difficult to do), the best source of such intelligence is the interrogation of captured terrorists. Applying the steep Geneva interrogation restrictions reserved for honorable combatants would be suicidal: Life-saving intelligence would be lost and no reciprocal benefit achieved for captured Americans, whom terrorists would torture and kill in any event.

This is the true context of the Bush administration’s military response to 9/11. The October 2001 invasion of Afghanistan quickly resulted in many terrorist captures. In February 2002, President Bush determined that al-Qaeda fell entirely outside Geneva. As the de facto government of Afghanistan, the Taliban was within the treaties’ general protections; but Taliban fighters did not qualify for POW status because they rampantly violated the laws of war. Still, regardless of status, President Bush ordered that all detainees be treated “humanely and, to the extent appropriate and consistent with military necessity, in a manner consistent with the principles of Geneva.” These proper directives — more solicitude than our enemies were entitled to — provided wide latitude for intelligence gathering. Existing law forbade torture but permitted subjecting unlawful combatants to aggressive interrogation methods short of torture.

As is now well known, the CIA was authorized to conduct a special interrogation program for high-level Qaeda detainees. It allowed for waterboarding, a form of simulated drowning. But use of that tactic was apparently limited to a grand total of three detainees (including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, al-Qaeda’s chief operational planner), and it hasn’t been employed in about five years.

At the Defense Department, in December 2002, Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized tactics that ramped up interrogation in two stages: Category I included common police methods like yelling and deception; Category II permitted such tactics as isolation, sleep deprivation, clothing removal (not conceived as compelled nudity but as detachment from comfort items), forced grooming, diet alteration (from hot meals to military field rations), exploitation of phobias (such as the presence, but not threatening use, of dogs), and stress positions (such as standing for four hours).

Also proposed was a Category III menu that would require commander approval. Rumsfeld, however, assented to only one of its measures: mild, non-injurious physical contact (grabbing, poking, or light pushing). He declined to authorize waterboarding, scenarios creating a fear of imminent death or pain, and exposure to cold weather or water.

Like the president, Rumsfeld was emphatic that all interrogation be humane. Furthermore, when Defense Department lawyers protested — instinctively fearing that enhanced tactics would imperil captured U.S. personnel — Rumsfeld quickly rescinded all the harsh techniques and ordered a more detailed study. In April 2003, revised guidance suggested 26 general techniques, only two (blindfolding and light, non-injurious touching) involving any physical contact. Also proposed were nine “exceptional” methods, mostly tactics listed in Category II of the original 2002 guidance. Rumsfeld, however, rejected the two general tactics calling for physical touching, and of the exceptional tactics approved only one: isolation, limited to 30 days. That’s it. As Yoo recounts, no dogs, touching, slaps, sleep deprivation, stress positions, or forced calisthenics.

The blunt truth is that none of the administration-approved tactics constituted torture. In actuality, these security measures are commonsense matters of life and death, and we need to let our laws about them be guided by common sense.
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PARTISAN MYTH-MAKING
The creators of the torture narrative refuse to take this view. When the Abu Ghraib scandal broke in spring 2004, human-rights activists, international-law professors, and opportunistic politicians bludgeoned Americans with an indictment of their government as a torture regime. It counted for nothing that it was the military itself that first disclosed the abuse, that Bush had ordered full Geneva protections for Iraqis, that the miscreant soldiers were prosecuted, and that a bipartisan panel rejected the absurd claim that Bush had installed a prisoner-abuse program. (The same panel recounted that less than one-tenth of one percent of 50,000 detainees in the War on Terror had viable abuse claims — extraordinarily low by historical warfare standards.)

Was the Bush administration a terror regime? Americans rejected this slander in November 2004. But the Left continues assiduously to blur the lines between torture, lesser forms of abuse, and the routine pressure and anxiety that are hallmarks of any effective interrogation.

Our law reserves the designation torture for what a federal appeals court has described as practices causing “intense, lasting, and heinous agony” — acts so abominable they stand apart from other condemnable forms of cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment (CID). By contrast, the human-rights activists behind the U.N. Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (UNCAT) confounded these distinctions, barring torture and CID as if they were the same thing. The U.S. rejected this conflation.

When UNCAT was ratified in 1994, the U.S. accepted its torture proscriptions in full. Congress duly enacted laws that criminalized torture, narrowly defining it as physical or prolonged mental abuse that was severe. But the CID provisions were not accepted: They were impossibly vague, with terms like degrading treatment portending frivolous abuse claims. So treaty reservations were adopted, reducing CID to nothing more than conduct that was already illegal under U.S. law.

The U.S. was remaining true to Geneva’s principles — but the terrorist onslaught, marinated in Bush Derangement Syndrome, intoxicated the leftists into betraying those principles. The Left now insists that no one, not even terrorists bent on killing as many Americans as possible, can be confined to a “legal black hole.” If Geneva’s civilizing standards excluded the barbarities of jihadism, the fault had to lie with the standards, not the barbarities. And since progressives view existing law as organic and endlessly pliable, voilà! — international prisoner-treatment standards could instantly be morphed into a terror-friendly chimera.

Thus did Democrats and John McCain grandstand shamefully over Abu Ghraib. Thus did the same opportunists blithely portray waterboarding as torture even though Congress, despite many opportunities, declined to make it illegal. And thus did a sharply divided Supreme Court, in the 2006 Hamdan case, have to abuse the language of Geneva’s Common Article 3 (CA3) — which by its own terms applies only to civil wars — in order to extend its vague guarantees of humane treatment to the international conflict with al-Qaeda.

The torture narrative frames the key developments of the War on Terror as the systematic implementation of a torture regime. The best exemplar is British law professor Philippe Sands’s Torture Team: Deception, Cruelty and the Compromise of Law, now heralded by leading Democrats as the definitive history. Perfecting the now-familiar script, Sands equates aggressive tactics with cruelty and cruelty with torture. He falsely claims that Rumsfeld authorized the Category III tactics even though the secretary not only rejected them but never wavered from mandating humane treatment. And Sands grossly misreports the account of key player Douglas Feith, then undersecretary of defense for policy. Sands writes that Feith advocated the denial of all Geneva safeguards, specifically including CA3 protections. Upon being challenged by Feith during congressional hearings, Sands finally released the recording of their interview, which conclusively proved Sands guilty of brazen distortions: Feith had favored Geneva protections; he’d denied only that terrorists were entitled to honorable prisoner-of-war status (a proposition even Sands did not dispute). And, in the entire lengthy interview, Sands had never even raised the matter of CA3 — despite its centrality to his claims of Bush’s systematic, lawless detainee abuse.

Such distortions are required because the torture narrative is a smear. Feith and Yoo are exceptional among the implicated former officials because they’ve demanded public scrutiny and the separation of fact from fiction. Theirs are lonely voices as the Left writes the history. That’s tragic. The Bush administration got the security right: The intelligence haul from terrorist interrogations has been invaluable and has helped keep the nation safe from attack. The president, however, got the politics all wrong: clumsily paying lip service to the Left’s torture rhetoric while sidestepping it in practice — shrinking from a full-throated defense of aggressive but humane interrogation tactics on the dubious ground that mounting one would enable terrorists to train against it.

The result is a double failure, of great consequence: We are saddled with a torture narrative that is far more a libel than a reality, and we have failed to reshape domestic and international law into tools that work against terrorists, rather than for them.
Article found here>The Myth of Bush’s Torture Regime by Andrew C. McCarthy on National Review / Digital
 

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Great counterpoint Strauss. The National Review is the bastion of fairness and balance in the US media, with the article having no factual errors or conservative bias what-so-ever.
 

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Pulled from Kelvin's link:
... the most definitive official account was released by the Senate Armed Services Committee just before Christmas. Much of the committee's report remains secret, but a 19-page executive summary was published, and it is infuriating. The story begins with an obscure military training program called Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape (SERE), in which various forms of torture are simulated to prepare U.S. special-ops personnel for the sorts of treatment they might receive if they're taken prisoner. Incredibly, the Bush Administration decided to have SERE trainers instruct its interrogation teams on how to torture prisoners.
I think that was very wise. The SERE instructors knew how to simulate the techniques without actually causing harm. In an effort to keep interrogators from hurting the prisoners, they were provided training. That shows (to me anyway) that we were concerned for the health of people who mutilated our boys' burned bodies and danced in the streets when Americans were beheaded.

Comparing our treatment of those prisoners to torture is like complaining of cruel and unusual punishment when the Beverly Hills police serve their inmates only domestic wine.
 

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Specifically, what power do you believe Bush enlarged? Don't give me generalizations, point to the specific power(s).
the ability to deny captured combatants due process

illegal wiretapping


the ability to go around congress if he sees fit





^^^^to name my main concerns
 

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the ability to deny captured combatants due process

illegal wiretapping


the ability to go around congress if he sees fit





^^^^to name my main concerns

The proverbial shooting fish in a barrel:

A Properly Powerful Executive
Bush has done a solid job of safeguarding presidential
prerogatives


MATTHEW J. FRANCK

How fares the constitutional presidency after eight years of George W. Bush? Bloodied but unbowed, I think. Over two terms notable for overheated partisan fears and attacks on the president’s use of the Constitution’s executive power, the Bush administration has made some ill-considered tactical choices and suffered some setbacks, but by and large has vigorously and successfully defended the constitutional boundaries of the office.

From the beginning, President Bush appeared to understand the constitutional basis of his authority. After a 537-vote victory in Florida gave him a just-enough 271 electoral votes, Bush entered on the duties of his office with a blithe unconcern for the size or even existence of a “mandate” springing from the American people — more of whom across the nation had voted for Al Gore. Evidently recognizing that winning the office, by however narrow a margin, provides all the “mandate” one needs, straight from the Constitution, he vigorously pressed his agenda in Washington just as though he had won a landslide. This sent his impassioned opponents even farther round the bend. But Bush should be thanked, and not just by his supporters, for using his power without hesitation. It was good for him, for the presidency as an institution, for the Constitution, and for the country.

America is not well served by a shrinking violet in the Oval Office. The framers of the Constitution rescued republicanism, a form of government that had historically swung back and forth between tyranny and anarchy, by introducing a number of institutional innovations. One of the most significant was the “energetic executive,” with independent constitutional power concentrated in one individual, who is thereby made more powerful and more responsible than any shared-power arrangement would be, and who can act as a counterweight to an otherwise too-powerful legislature. The Constitution is built on an expectation of friction in the separation of powers, and its purposes are advanced by presidents who see their policy ambitions as bound up with an expansive notion of their office’s powers. “The interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place,” said James Madison in The Federalist. These rights include reining in Congress when it overreaches, exercising vigorous leadership in foreign relations, and waging war with sufficient latitude to protect the nation from destruction.

So how should we assess George W. Bush’s maintenance of the “constitutional rights of the place”?

The veto.
President Bush will leave office having vetoed fewer bills than any president in modern times — just twelve vetoes so far, of which Congress has overridden four. His first term ended with an astounding zero vetoes, a record last seen in a completed four-year term when John Quincy Adams was president. But is a record of few vetoes a sign of passivity, or of strength on Capitol Hill? In Bush’s case, it may be a little of both. Conservatives have chafed at Bush’s willingness to sign all manner of spending bills, but when one’s party controls the Congress, fiscal restraint should be accomplished before the bills pass in the first place. That didn’t happen. What the president got from congressional Republicans while they jointly spent all that money was their general support of his wartime presidency. Judged not on fiscal or electoral grounds, but on constitutional ones, this may not have been a bad bargain. Eleven of Bush’s twelve vetoes, some in direct defense of presidential power, have occurred since the Democrats took over Congress after the 2006 elections.

Signing statements.
While President Bush was signing all those bills, he continued a practice that dates back to James Monroe but gathered steam under Ronald Reagan: the “signing statement,” which can explain the president’s understanding of a law’s limited reach under the Constitution — especially marking off the encroachments on his power that he will not countenance. Bush signed scores of such statements, but not outlandishly many compared with Reagan, Clinton, or his own father. And if one such statement is legitimate, what is wrong with a hundred?

Still, given so many, one wonders: Was this Bush’s substitute for the veto he was so chary of using? Perhaps, but in the contemporary legislative environment, with its multi-subject authorization bills and massive spending resolutions (some up against the fiscal calendar in wartime), it is hard to fault a pattern of decisions to accept any legislation that can reasonably be interpreted in a friendly fashion. With little historical understanding and less constitutional warrant, the president’s critics tried to gin up a sense of crisis about his signing statements. But the practice has been ably defended through administrations of both parties, and will doubtless continue under President Obama. Perhaps Bush’s enemies will belatedly discover that the president is a constitutional officer and not the legislature’s errand boy.

Commander-in-chief.
In the elite media and the legal academy, one hears the constant cry that, under the rubric of war powers, “Bush is shredding the Constitution!” Historic practice and jurisprudence make such claims hard to credit. Jack Goldsmith, the former head of the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) in the Bush Justice Department, rightly notes in his 2007 memoir The Terror Presidency that Bush has been the first war president to face “a hornet’s nest of complex criminal restrictions on his traditional wartime discretionary powers.” Unquestionably these restrictions make warfighting harder, with the president pulled between the imperatives of safeguarding the national security and respecting sometimes ambiguous legal obligations. President Bush has fortunately had very able lawyers in the executive branch who have helped him navigate these waters and advocate the cause of a vigorous commander-in-chief.

Goldsmith was one of those advocates, and his sympathy for the president’s purposes makes him one of the administration’s most cogent and balanced critics. He slams what he sees as its “open chest-thumping about the importance of maintaining and expanding executive power,” criticizes its “go-it-alone approach” when it might have accomplished more by working more cooperatively with Congress, and concludes that on some matters the desire of administration officials to “leave the presidency stronger than they found it” was pursued in ways that “seemed to have achieved the opposite.” With the evidence of some arguably improvident (and subsequently leaked) memos on interrogation techniques, some losses at the Supreme Court in the Guantanamo detainee cases, and the continuing lack of any comprehensive legislation for dealing with the terrorist threat, Goldsmith has a pretty good case.

On the other side, however, are the arguments of John Yoo, a former deputy at OLC who served before Goldsmith’s time, the unapologetic drafter of the interrogation memos Goldsmith withdrew, and perhaps the legal academy’s most forceful advocate of expansive executive war powers under the Constitution. In his 2006 book War by Other Means, Yoo argues that while “no grand statute” has been enacted for terrorist detentions and trials, nevertheless “congressional support for the war is a fact of life,” with the entire war effort resting on Congress’s funding, its authorization of the use of force, and the oversight of its leaders and committees. Beyond this minimal congressional involvement, he says, the president does not need any specific authorization; asking for it would only weaken the presidency. Yoo thinks we are better off in wartime with an active presidency and a largely hands-off Congress, due to the legislature’s “size, disorganization, and unwillingness to take political risks,” as well as the inherently less flexible nature of legislative efforts to pursue war aims.

Both men’s views have merit, and together they summarize the conundrum of executive power. Every president, especially in wartime, must weigh how much to claim unilateral power and how much to work with Congress. But two things are striking about the Yoo–Goldsmith debate.

The first is that their disagreement takes place almost entirely on the terrain of political science and not constitutional law. They differ on how well the Bush administration pressed its case in Congress, the courts, and the public arena, but agree that as a constitutional matter, the administration’s position was virtually unassailable. When Goldsmith describes the Supreme Court’s first habeas corpus ruling on the Guantanamo detainees, Rasul v. Bush in 2004, as “turning somersaults” with the law, prompted more by “extralegal factors” than by “controlling legal precedents,” Yoo would agree. And when Yoo remarks that the Court that decided Hamdan v. Rumsfeld two years later “displayed a lack of judicial restraint that would have shocked its predecessors,” Goldsmith could have said as much. But if Goldsmith is right in his assessment of the “extralegal factors” in play in the modern judiciary, then the presidency’s approach to the Supreme Court must be of essentially the same kind as its approach to Congress, the public, and the media. This is a truly alarming development, suggesting that what matters in the Court is not legal arguments and precedent but rhetorical appeals and the flattering of prejudices. The judge becomes just another low sort of politician.

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The rest of the article:

The second — and related — thing worth mentioning was exposed in the most recent Guantanamo case, Boumediene v. Bush, which was decided after both Yoo and Goldsmith published their books and renders some of their disagreements irrelevant. In Boumediene, facing a Congress and president who had joined forces a second time to tell the justices to butt out, the Court overturned an act of Congress and held, for the first time in history, that foreign enemies captured on foreign fields, presumptively having violated the laws of war, and held by our military beyond American shores, are entitled to the constitutional privilege of habeas corpus in civilian trial courts. Again, this occurred after both the elected branches responsible for wartime policy had decided otherwise.

This legal “astonisher,” as Lincoln would have called it, shows that the real story of war powers under the Constitution since 9/11 has not been a tale of the ebb and flow of executive power in relation to Congress and the courts. It has been a tale of judicial aggrandizement at the expense of both the other branches, with significant costs for the rule of law and republicanism. The Bush administration has held up its end under the Constitution, so far with no outright crippling of presidential war powers. But for the sake of both victory and the Constitution, we have reason to wish Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama better success in his own encounters with the judiciary.

Mr. Franck is a visiting fellow in the James Madison Program at Princeton University, professor and chairman of political science at Radford University, and a blogger at National Review Online’s Bench Memos.

Found here>A Properly Powerful Executive by Matthew J. Franck on National Review / Digital
 

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lol the national review? Thats basically a kool-aid drinker neo-con site/magazine. I bet you had that ready for me when you saw my post eh? Just waiting to use it.
 

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lol the national review? Thats basically a kool-aid drinker neo-con site/magazine. I bet you had that ready for me when you saw my post eh? Just waiting to use it.

Actually the National Review is anti-neo-con and has been from the very beginning. Typical liberal knee-jerk reaction. If you can't refute the source attempt to discredit it. Note the author of the article. BTW, the wiretapping that you claim is illegal has been upheld by the very court assigned to review it. Further, btw, you failed as requested to provide specific examples, as typical, you give talking points without substance.
 

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Great counterpoint Strauss. The National Review is the bastion of fairness and balance in the US media, with the article having no factual errors or conservative bias what-so-ever.

The typical conservative approach of making excuses for the most fucked up leadership the U.S. has seen since WWII. Not only fucked up but dangerous...

You see the U.S. has never tortured anybody, nor has it tried to circumvent the Geneva convention. :smiley24:
 

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Actually the National Review is anti-neo-con and has been from the very beginning. Typical liberal knee-jerk reaction. If you can't refute the source attempt to discredit it. Note the author of the article. BTW, the wiretapping that you claim is illegal has been upheld by the very court assigned to review it. Further, btw, you failed as requested to provide specific examples, as typical, you give talking points without substance.
its sort of interesting that you label me a liberal when I'm not a liberal.


Those are specific examples



You seem to be totally fine with a massive government
 
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