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TheOriginalJames
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haha! I need to go get some food and beer.
04ShakinSteed
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I like the SRT-4. Get's good gas mileage and it's fast.....and AMERICAN!
Yeah 26-32mpg :rock an turbocharged.....an yes american made = good thing :banana
The biggest difference between the wrx an the srt is of course is the drivetrain all wheel drive vs front wheel....but if you dont plan on racing in the snow....you dont really need the awd.....along with that theres a loooot more power lost in the awd vs the front wheel... so it will take more hp from the wrx to keep up with the srt......
The biggest difference between the wrx an the srt is of course is the drivetrain all wheel drive vs front wheel....but if you dont plan on racing in the snow....you dont really need the awd.....along with that theres a loooot more power lost in the awd vs the front wheel... so it will take more hp from the wrx to keep up with the srt......
04ShakinSteed
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What does a STOCK SRT-4 do in the 1/4??
TheOriginalJames
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<------ American made too. Take a trip down US 33 between ft wayne and Columbus in Ohio and you'll see the American plant in which my car was built.
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TheOriginalJames
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Yes sir, with mixed parts. Much like any other domestic built vehicle.
TheOriginalJames
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haha now you know why it annoys me when people say "you don't support the american economy by buying imports"
lol - what a crock.
lol - what a crock.
Re: RE: Test drive today...
they are working on it...
one little sticky for your information:
the corporate headquarters for the entire import company (ie: nissan, mitsubishi, volvo, mercedes benz, bmw, etc) is located outside the us's borders, therefore making it an "import" car, and since the corporate headquarters is outside the us, it is not helping our economy much at all...
Ramhard21 said:
they are working on it...
one little sticky for your information:
the corporate headquarters for the entire import company (ie: nissan, mitsubishi, volvo, mercedes benz, bmw, etc) is located outside the us's borders, therefore making it an "import" car, and since the corporate headquarters is outside the us, it is not helping our economy much at all...
TheOriginalJames
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Re: RE: Test drive today...
Yeah... your reasoning here seems to be missing quite a bit of information here to have a valid point.
Using parts manufactured in the US by US workers, not to mention the US labor used to BUILD THE CAR in OHIO (which by the way is in the United States) along with free trade with Japan doesn't help our economy at all, huh?
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'd say that helps our economy more so than you think.
sourlemon2k5 said:
Yeah... your reasoning here seems to be missing quite a bit of information here to have a valid point.
Using parts manufactured in the US by US workers, not to mention the US labor used to BUILD THE CAR in OHIO (which by the way is in the United States) along with free trade with Japan doesn't help our economy at all, huh?
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'd say that helps our economy more so than you think.
Re: RE: Test drive today...
first off: where did the materials come from to make the parts manufactured in the us... most technological parts are made overseas, and since most cars today have ELECTRONIC feul injection, if not all, require technological components, even my mustang...
i guess what im trying to say is that the overseas/outside border'd countries benefit more just because the corporate headquarters are elsewhere than the united states..
so therefore, how i see it, whose economy benefits more based on where the companies' headquarters are...
granted that the plants are important... but even some of the cars that are american make, are made in mexico, and i know ford does it... no doubt chevy and dodge do as well.
2000Si said:
first off: where did the materials come from to make the parts manufactured in the us... most technological parts are made overseas, and since most cars today have ELECTRONIC feul injection, if not all, require technological components, even my mustang...
i guess what im trying to say is that the overseas/outside border'd countries benefit more just because the corporate headquarters are elsewhere than the united states..
so therefore, how i see it, whose economy benefits more based on where the companies' headquarters are...
granted that the plants are important... but even some of the cars that are american make, are made in mexico, and i know ford does it... no doubt chevy and dodge do as well.
TheOriginalJames
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So basically in your eyes one country simply profits and one spends?
Your reasoning and lack of comprehension on the world wide economy sucks.
We buy parts, they buy goods.
We buy cars, they buy goods.
If it all evens out, how does that hurt our economy? Nobody benefits more than another as long as the deficit between what we buy and sell cancels itself out.
You're basically telling me that you're supporting our economy better than I am because I bought a car from a company who is HQ'd in Japan but builds cars in the US... BUT... you bought a car from a company HQ'd in the United States that's building cars in another country?
The worlds economy depends on buying and selling between countries, without a healthy WORLD economy, our domestic economy means jack shit to anybody.
Your reasoning and lack of comprehension on the world wide economy sucks.
We buy parts, they buy goods.
We buy cars, they buy goods.
If it all evens out, how does that hurt our economy? Nobody benefits more than another as long as the deficit between what we buy and sell cancels itself out.
You're basically telling me that you're supporting our economy better than I am because I bought a car from a company who is HQ'd in Japan but builds cars in the US... BUT... you bought a car from a company HQ'd in the United States that's building cars in another country?
The worlds economy depends on buying and selling between countries, without a healthy WORLD economy, our domestic economy means jack shit to anybody.
Re: RE: Test drive today...
heres a lesson, you can learn from it, but you dont have to pay attention to it at all... your choice...
in a simplified economy, there are five major factors:
-Consumer economies - durable goods and such, produced in the us for the us...
-Investment economies - business spending for equipment to produce for consumers
-Government spending - defense contracts, education, etc
-eXports - goods sold to other countries
-iMports - goods bought from other countries
now, there is something that these major categories do... they measure gdp, or gross domestic product, which measures how the economy is performing...
gdp = C + I + G + ( X - M)
for the us economy to be healthy, gdp needs to be positive...
>if consumers dont buy goods from u.s. maunfacturers, then C goes down
>if businesses outsource manufacturing processes, then I goes down
>if government spending goes down, then G goes down
>if us manfuacturing companies dont export goods, then X goes down
>if we import goods (cars included), then M goes up
leaving a little bit more deficit than you think...
for instance, nissan, who does produce cars in the us, sold to us people. well, that is good for the economy, you might say... but the question is where are the materials coming from? some may come from us, but most if not all, are all shipped from outside sources into the united states, so that does not help the economy
jobs... yes, it does produce jobs, which is good...
but, if the technology continues at the rate it does, the jobs produced by these new plants will be replaced by machines (read: robots) and then what?
"tell those people to get technoloy training"... sure sounds great, but they wont hire u.s. people, cuz we charge more than the outsource people... so they set up remote controls that connect to those other companies...
then what?
2000Si said:
heres a lesson, you can learn from it, but you dont have to pay attention to it at all... your choice...
in a simplified economy, there are five major factors:
-Consumer economies - durable goods and such, produced in the us for the us...
-Investment economies - business spending for equipment to produce for consumers
-Government spending - defense contracts, education, etc
-eXports - goods sold to other countries
-iMports - goods bought from other countries
now, there is something that these major categories do... they measure gdp, or gross domestic product, which measures how the economy is performing...
gdp = C + I + G + ( X - M)
for the us economy to be healthy, gdp needs to be positive...
>if consumers dont buy goods from u.s. maunfacturers, then C goes down
>if businesses outsource manufacturing processes, then I goes down
>if government spending goes down, then G goes down
>if us manfuacturing companies dont export goods, then X goes down
>if we import goods (cars included), then M goes up
leaving a little bit more deficit than you think...
for instance, nissan, who does produce cars in the us, sold to us people. well, that is good for the economy, you might say... but the question is where are the materials coming from? some may come from us, but most if not all, are all shipped from outside sources into the united states, so that does not help the economy
jobs... yes, it does produce jobs, which is good...
but, if the technology continues at the rate it does, the jobs produced by these new plants will be replaced by machines (read: robots) and then what?
"tell those people to get technoloy training"... sure sounds great, but they wont hire u.s. people, cuz we charge more than the outsource people... so they set up remote controls that connect to those other companies...
then what?
TheOriginalJames
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Jesus Christ you're retarded. I see you actually went and did some homework though.
But if you STILL think that buying things from other countries doesn't help our economy, then there's nothing more anyone can say to you.
Buying and selling helps the economy. Hell that IS what the economy is based upon.
But I guess since buying things from other countries is bad for our economy, then we should just start manufacturing everything we use here in the states, right?
I mean damn, who needs a world economy? :dunno
But if you STILL think that buying things from other countries doesn't help our economy, then there's nothing more anyone can say to you.
Buying and selling helps the economy. Hell that IS what the economy is based upon.
But I guess since buying things from other countries is bad for our economy, then we should just start manufacturing everything we use here in the states, right?
I mean damn, who needs a world economy? :dunno
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