Teaching in America....

[All Else Failed]

Its soooooo good.

I'm reading the biography of Samuel Adams right now.

 

[dt3]

Sounds interesting, can't say I know much about him. I've been thinking about going back to school for a history degree. I really don't give a rat's ass about the electronics field, and I think I'd love teaching history.

 

[All Else Failed]

Go for it.

 

[dt3]

I've been looking around. I'd prefer to do it online, since I still need a "job" to take care of the "family". I found one based out of a navy base here in Jax I think is the best bet.

Besides, someone's gotta counteract that liberal filth you'll be spewing to your students

 

[All Else Failed]

I've been looking around. I'd prefer to do it online, since I still need a "job" to take care of the "family". I found one based out of a navy base here in Jax I think is the best bet.

Besides, someone's gotta counteract that liberal filth you'll be spewing to your students

When the revolution comes, you will be the first to go, Komrad! :24:

 

[All Else Failed]

Very good for info:

Best of History Web Sites

 

[Sparkler]

History is written always by the victors and as such is always biased by the view of the writer or the view favoured by the government/education authority. For example in Irish history the people who faught for Irish freedom in the early part of the 20th Century were viewed as traitors to the crown and terrorists and in a negative light in British history books but as Heroes and Patriots by Irish history books.

 

[Peter Parka]

Its soooooo good.

I'm reading the biography of Samuel Adams right now.

Aint that that dude who makes beer?:jk

 

[All Else Failed]

Aint that that dude who makes beer?:jk

Well, he did have a brewery. But the Beer company now just uses his namesake.

 

[Sneakiecat]

My internship was in a 5th grade class. I would never go into great detail about exactly what happened but I didn't sugarcoat things either. If lots of people died in a battle, we discussed that but I didn't go into the gory details. Most of them hadn't had any sort of social studies (since it wasn't covered on the FCAT at the time) so a lot of it was new to them. It made it so much easier to teach them.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

I just got back from a trip to Washington (the state), right before I had a very heated discussion with my Father about education in America.

One of the topics (and IMO is the most important) was what material we teach our children, specifically history. I remember that when I was in High School that we were taught that before the great western movement that everone on the east side had "Manifest Destiny". Which is a cover up for kill millions of indians and take their land. But I didn't learn of this until higher education. I always thought that we had a right to move the indians away and take their land, of course the material never mentions the millions that died.

So I was telling my dad that I think we should change the curriculum thats taught and we should give accurate information to our growing youth. He disagreed and stated that during the Elementary, Middle, and High School stages it isn't aobut the accuracy of the information, but to build a passion for learning for the student. He said that many teachers hate the subjects and materials teached to the populous, he said they only do it to inspire kids to learn. Then he stated that higher education is what brings in the wealth of knowledge and let's you make you opinion of the events that took place. (BTW I wanna be a history teacher, AP US, High School.)

Do you think that the accuracy of the curriculum should be sacrificed to build a passion for learning, or should the material taught be the correct info, because I know that our history as a nation is almost on the level of hitlers for the native americans.


What is your opinions?:confused

I agree with your dad. As Elementary school students you're more worried about going out and playing. As middle schoolers, you're more worried about going out and playing with your girlfriends. As high schoolers you're more worried about work and playing with your girlfriends in your room.

In College, you're uh "more" mature than you have ever been and can thus research and form a better opinion based on your mandatory schooling while in college.

 

[sharpies]

In most cases the truth turns out to be far more interesting than the pack of lies that some bullshit historian makes up. So if you want children to become interested in History, maybe it should be taught based upon the writings of someone like Bill Bryson. A Short History Of Nearly Everything is a great read & full of stories that keep you interested - not just cold facts.

If you cannot teach anything in school that is not a fact then there are many things in Science that could not be taught as we do not know the answer to everything - a lot of our knowledge is tied up in well-formed but incomplete theories.

I am an atheist but have no problems with the teaching of creationism in schools but it is strictly for Religious Education, same as evolution should only be taught as science & it should be pointed out to both groups that these are both working theories & not facts.

Allan

 

[GameCrazed]

The truth should take presidence over "getting kids to want to learn" which is a complete load of bullshit.

Though I don't think history's the most important thing. I think all school's in America should be required to teach kids the Bill of Rghts and Constituition in it's entirety.

And evolution should be taught as well as the Big Bang. Atleast as "theories".

 

[Reaver]

if you have a good teacher, it shouldn't be hard to get interested in learning. At no point should we sacrifice truth just to get kids more 'excited about learning' sry, but that is a bunch of bullshit

 

[TheOriginalJames]

No, getting kids to want to pay attention in class is not a complete load of bullshit. Looking back at your history and english classes, did you really give a shit?

Teachers are underpaid and underappreciated, why should they go the extra mile to teach things not in the curriculum when the kids don't even give a shit?

Had my school taught evolution in any course, my mom would have been up in arms about it. That's what college is for, giving both sides of the theory and letting 18 year old+ grown ups the information needed to form their own opinion about the subject matter.

 

[GameCrazed]

TOJ-

1.) No, theachers are overappreciated. See, there's this rumor that if you go to college for awhile you can learn to be a teacher. Wrong. Some people are born with the ability to teach, others flaunt around there degree and waiste people's time.

2.) And how eactly to you make kids want to learn? You can't. They iether care or they don';t, and in many cases, they should'n't care about the crap they're learning in school.

3.) ID is not a theory, it's theism. Evolution is a theory, and so that is what should be taught.

 

[dt3]

TOJ-

1.) No, theachers are overappreciated. See, there's this rumor that if you go to college for awhile you can learn to be a teacher. Wrong. Some people are born with the ability to teach, others flaunt around there degree and waiste people's time.

2.) And how eactly to you make kids want to learn? You can't. They iether care or they don';t, and in many cases, they should'n't care about the crap they're learning in school.

3.) ID is not a theory, it's theism. Evolution is a theory, and so that is what should be taught.

Sounds like you had some crappy teachers

 

[All Else Failed]

kekekekekekeke

 

[NicAuf]

I just got back from a trip to Washington (the state), right before I had a very heated discussion with my Father about education in America.

One of the topics (and IMO is the most important) was what material we teach our children, specifically history. I remember that when I was in High School that we were taught that before the great western movement that everone on the east side had "Manifest Destiny". Which is a cover up for kill millions of indians and take their land. But I didn't learn of this until higher education. I always thought that we had a right to move the indians away and take their land, of course the material never mentions the millions that died.

So I was telling my dad that I think we should change the curriculum thats taught and we should give accurate information to our growing youth. He disagreed and stated that during the Elementary, Middle, and High School stages it isn't aobut the accuracy of the information, but to build a passion for learning for the student. He said that many teachers hate the subjects and materials teached to the populous, he said they only do it to inspire kids to learn. Then he stated that higher education is what brings in the wealth of knowledge and let's you make you opinion of the events that took place. (BTW I wanna be a history teacher, AP US, High School.)

Do you think that the accuracy of the curriculum should be sacrificed to build a passion for learning, or should the material taught be the correct info, because I know that our history as a nation is almost on the level of hitlers for the native americans.


What is your opinions?:confused

Woot woot for high school history teachers......

 

[GameCrazed]

Sorry, I don't need to use perfect spelling, I'm just always right.