Student Tasering at the University of Florida

[Breath]

well thats fine and dandy except they didn't have to taser him at all.

Maybe. Maybe not. We weren't there.
Apparently they thought they did.
If it was unwarranted, that'll come out.

 

[HisHoliness]

they didn't have to taser him at all.

With 20/20 hindsight, I'd agree with that.

 

[All Else Failed]

Look, there were about what, 6-7 cops there holding the guy down? They could have easily just took him out of the building instea dof keeping him there, pinning him down and then using a weapon on him AFTER HE SAID HE WOULD JUST LEAVE.

 

[Breath]

So the point is....
They had the right to remove him and you don't like how they handled it?
Okay.

 

[All Else Failed]

its not that I didn't like it, its the fact that they just didn't have to do what they did.


Im done with this.

 

[HisHoliness]

its not that I didn't like it, its the fact that they just didn't have to do what they did.


Im done with this.

You're the second person to leave a blanket statement and try to back out in this thread. It annoys me a little, but there really isn't anything I can do about it.

Anyway, I recall that you're in college. Maybe as an adventure in the interest of broadening your perspective (not necessarily changing it), you should join your campus security, or find a way to interact with people you may know on security. Where I went to school, the things my security friends had to deal with made for great stories and lessons. And maybe then you'll begin to appreciate the tough split second decisions that they have to make. I think you'll find that half the time, whatever they encounter requires a hell of a lot of discretion, since training manuals and procedures don't cover everything.

It's easy for us to sit here and break apart their actions, because we have all the time in the world to do so. The officers are not so fortunate. What is clear is that the officers did what they - not AEF - felt necessary to subdue the kid. Have you ever tried to remove someone from a building who didn't want to leave? It's not as easy as it sounds. And these officers are much more qualified than you or I in determining how much force is necessary, even though you will disagree.

 

[Thebest]

You're the second person to leave a blanket statement and try to back out in this thread. It annoys me a little, but there really isn't anything I can do about it.

Anyway, I recall that you're in college. Maybe as an adventure in the interest of broadening your perspective (not necessarily changing it), you should join your campus security, or find a way to interact with people you may know on security. Where I went to school, the things my security friends had to deal with made for great stories and lessons. And maybe then you'll begin to appreciate the tough split second decisions that they have to make. I think you'll find that half the time, whatever they encounter requires a hell of a lot of discretion, since training manuals and procedures don't cover everything.

It's easy for us to sit here and break apart their actions, because we have all the time in the world to do so. The officers are not so fortunate. What is clear is that the officers did what they - not AEF - felt necessary to subdue the kid. Have you ever tried to remove someone from a building who didn't want to leave? It's not as easy as it sounds. And these officers are much more qualified than you or I in determining how much force is necessary, even though you will disagree.

First of all, I'll try and find where i saw the whole video, and if I do, trust me, it'll be up.

Second of all, no, I have not had any bad experiences with authority other than a speeding ticket.

Thirdly, I have thought about what'd it be like in the officer's shoes, and I find myself thinking to myself "OH MY GOD HE'S EXERTING HIS FREEDOM OF SPEECH, GET HIM. quick get the taser." Yeah.

Lastly, and in regard to this quote, I doubt the officers felt it was 'necessary' to taze the kid, especially when there were 6 officers holding him down, and he was already in hand cuffs, even though he shouldn't have been in hand cuffs, or even been held down. Hell, nothing should've happened, considering all he wanted to do was talk.

 

[HisHoliness]

First of all, I'll try and find where i saw the whole video, and if I do, trust me, it'll be up.

Second of all, no, I have not had any bad experiences with authority other than a speeding ticket.

Thirdly, I have thought about what'd it be like in the officer's shoes, and I find myself thinking to myself "OH MY GOD HE'S EXERTING HIS FREEDOM OF SPEECH, GET HIM. quick get the taser." Yeah.

Lastly, and in regard to this quote, I doubt the officers felt it was 'necessary' to taze the kid, especially when there were 6 officers holding him down, and he was already in hand cuffs, even though he shouldn't have been in hand cuffs, or even been held down. Hell, nothing should've happened, considering all he wanted to do was talk.

Are you purporting that officers are vindictive by nature and would taser someone just to get their jollies? I'm pretty sure they screen for that kind of behavior. That's a very irresponsible statement.

 

[Thebest]

Are you purporting that officers are vindictive by nature and would taser someone just to get their jollies? I'm pretty sure they screen for that kind of behavior. That's a very irresponsible statement.

Guess I'm irresponsible then. I also noticed that you said nothing about the fact that they did not have to taze him, nor were they led to believe that they needed to. They were all holding him down, while he was in hand cuffs. That was more than enough to subdue him for exercising his rights.

 

[dt3]

Guess I'm irresponsible then. I also noticed that you said nothing about the fact that they did not have to taze him, nor were they led to believe that they needed to. They were all holding him down, while he was in hand cuffs. That was more than enough to subdue him for exercising his rights.

They were trying to cuff him, but were only able to get one on because he was resisting. Then they tazed him and put the second one on. Read the report.

 

[HisHoliness]

That was more than enough to subdue him for exercising his rights.

I'm really not even qualified to make that call, and neither are you. But we can leave that on the table since you won't believe anything written in the reports.

 

[Thebest]

I'm really not even qualified to make that call, and neither are you. But we can leave that on the table since you won't believe anything written in the reports.

Now you're getting it!

 

[Thebest]

Okay, here's the full video of it, it's about 7 minutes long. It certainly doesn't change my opinion of the situation, as there's not much different about it, just more footage. It starts at the time when he gets up to the microphone to speak.

YouTube - University of Florida Student Tasered at John Kerry Speech

 

[HisHoliness]

Okay, here's the full video of it, it's about 7 minutes long. It certainly doesn't change my opinion of the situation, as there's not much different about it, just more footage. It starts at the time when he gets up to the microphone to speak.

YouTube - University of Florida Student Tasered at John Kerry Speech

The speech is two hours long, and the report indicates that he was being disruptive during Kerry's speech as well as the Q&A session. 7 minutes isn't long enough.

 

[Maulds]

I couldnt resist
YouTube - REMIX: "Can't Tase This" UF Student Tasered

 

[GraceAbounds]

I couldnt resist
YouTube - REMIX: "Can't Tase This" UF Student Tasered

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I've got tears bursting out of my eyes. God is soooooo going to strike me down for finding this funny. :ninja

 

[Boomer]

I couldnt resist
YouTube - REMIX: "Can't Tase This" UF Student Tasered

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*deep breath*

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[skyblue]

this is an old one.......i believe the taser wielder is being prosecuted

 

[GraceAbounds]

Actually this is the conclusion to this story:
My Way News - Lawyer: No Charges for Tasered Student

[FONT=Verdana,Sans-serif] Andrew Meyer, 21, yelled "Don't Tase me, bro!" as he scuffled with officers during the on-campus speech last month. In letters to the university, its president and the campus police department, he apologized, attorney Robert Griscti said.
"I made the decision to supersede the rules, and for that I apologize," Meyer wrote. "I should have acted calmer and obeyed the directives of the officers. If I had, none of the subsequent issues would ever have arisen."
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[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Sans-serif] "I'm so sorry that I lost my control in that auditorium," he wrote. "I went there to ask an important question. The question of voter disenfranchisement in America cuts to the heart of our democracy, and my failure to act calmly resulted in this important town forum ending without the discourse intended. For that, I am truly sorry."
Meyer, a communications major, said he was taking a leave of absence but would return to school in January. He pledged to Bernie Machen, the Florida president, that he learned from the incident.
"I am a far more reasoned individual than I was a short while ago, and the reasoned response of the university has helped me a great deal," Meyer wrote.
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[juggler]

At the moment I'm on dial-up. It's taken me this long to see the clip, and at then risk of either repeating or offending someone.............. I think this is one of the funniest clips I've seen!!!!!!!!:24::24::24: