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Strange. Does God wants us to rebel and sin?
If you read scripture properly, you can only conclude that God wanted Satan to rebel or become God’s loyal opposition, .as well as God wanting Adam and Eve to disobey His command.
Let me first say that the only possible source for our moral sense, something we should all be trying to improve is the knowledge of good and evil. This makes eating of the tree of knowledge imperative to our elevation from mere dumb beasts.
Gen 3 5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.--- Talking snake.
Gen 3:22
22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:--- God.
Col 1 15
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
This would include evil, sin and temptation.
1 Timothy 2
1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
Matt 5 48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect
To do so we must know good and evil.
Gen 3 7
And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
To be saved, you have to be in peril. Scripturally speaking, that means you have to be a sinner.
From what I can gather from the above quotes, to attain God’s perfection, man must rebel and or sin. God wants us to have knowledge of truth of good and evil so that our eyes can be open to them. That is likely why He created evil for us, and His pleasure, in the first place.
This explains why, in Genesis, God allows a supernatural Satan to have access to a Childish Adam and Eve and who is there, on God’s behalf, to make sure Adam and Eve eat of the tree of knowledge.
We all know that in a contest between man and the supernatural, be it Satan or some other, the supernatural always wins. God after all gave Satan the power to deceive all men to do good or to do evil.
God also knows this and sent Satan to start us up properly.
So rebel or sin my friends and repent because this is the key to knowing God; just as it was in the days of Adam and Eve. Eat hearty and be as Gods, knowing good and evil and let us pray that you only have to do small sins to learn.
The wages of sin are to be as Gods and our way of entering heaven.
Eh. Before you say that Jesus, a good Rabbi but a poor the chimera usurper God is the way is the way.
Psa 49:7 None [of them] can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
Pro 21:3 To do justice and judgment [is] more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.
This you do with the moral sense that you gain only from knowing good and evil.
I know that most believers do not quite believe this way yet. most have yet to take their factlesss faith and add the facts to it and change their faith to true belief. This takes logic and reason. If you have some of this then if you apply it to the logic trail above, you will agree as your eyes will be open.
As a parting thought, if you think me wrong, if god did not want man to sin, why, according to scripture and tradition, are we all born with a God given sinning nature?
Can man fight his own nature?
Impossible.
Regards
DL
If you read scripture properly, you can only conclude that God wanted Satan to rebel or become God’s loyal opposition, .as well as God wanting Adam and Eve to disobey His command.
Let me first say that the only possible source for our moral sense, something we should all be trying to improve is the knowledge of good and evil. This makes eating of the tree of knowledge imperative to our elevation from mere dumb beasts.
Gen 3 5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.--- Talking snake.
Gen 3:22
22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:--- God.
Col 1 15
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
This would include evil, sin and temptation.
1 Timothy 2
1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
Matt 5 48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect
To do so we must know good and evil.
Gen 3 7
And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
To be saved, you have to be in peril. Scripturally speaking, that means you have to be a sinner.
From what I can gather from the above quotes, to attain God’s perfection, man must rebel and or sin. God wants us to have knowledge of truth of good and evil so that our eyes can be open to them. That is likely why He created evil for us, and His pleasure, in the first place.
This explains why, in Genesis, God allows a supernatural Satan to have access to a Childish Adam and Eve and who is there, on God’s behalf, to make sure Adam and Eve eat of the tree of knowledge.
We all know that in a contest between man and the supernatural, be it Satan or some other, the supernatural always wins. God after all gave Satan the power to deceive all men to do good or to do evil.
God also knows this and sent Satan to start us up properly.
So rebel or sin my friends and repent because this is the key to knowing God; just as it was in the days of Adam and Eve. Eat hearty and be as Gods, knowing good and evil and let us pray that you only have to do small sins to learn.
The wages of sin are to be as Gods and our way of entering heaven.
Eh. Before you say that Jesus, a good Rabbi but a poor the chimera usurper God is the way is the way.
Psa 49:7 None [of them] can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
Pro 21:3 To do justice and judgment [is] more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.
This you do with the moral sense that you gain only from knowing good and evil.
I know that most believers do not quite believe this way yet. most have yet to take their factlesss faith and add the facts to it and change their faith to true belief. This takes logic and reason. If you have some of this then if you apply it to the logic trail above, you will agree as your eyes will be open.
As a parting thought, if you think me wrong, if god did not want man to sin, why, according to scripture and tradition, are we all born with a God given sinning nature?
Can man fight his own nature?
Impossible.
Regards
DL
