Stem Cell Research.

[Goat Whisperer]

What side do you choose? I am prepared to argue that we should be using stem cells, if your willing. So if anyone is against it let me try and convince you otherwise, if not great, if you truly believ you can convince me otherwise go ahead and try, if you'd rather not be convinced do reply.

 

[All Else Failed]

We now have methods that get around certain "obstacles" that the right-wingers disliked about it earlier on, so there's really no reason why it shouldn't be federally funded now. The possibilities for this field are many and exciting.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

The only thing keeping us from federal funding is really bush...

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

I have no issue with research as long as the cell's are being obtained ethically.

 

[SouthOfHeaven]

I have no issue with research as long as the cell's are being obtained ethically.

:homo:

 

[darkcgi]

ethics is the key
but how would it be inforced

 

[All Else Failed]

We can get stem cells "ethically" now, so that worry is moot.

 

[dt3]

What side do you choose? I am prepared to argue that we should be using stem cells, if your willing. So if anyone is against it let me try and convince you otherwise, if not great, if you truly believ you can convince me otherwise go ahead and try, if you'd rather not be convinced do reply.

Assume I'm 100% against it. Convince me.

 

[All Else Failed]

it could potentially cure all forms of cancer/grow back lost limbs/organs/cure diseases

 

[gLing]

I would rather my tax dollars goto something good like stem cell research instead of useless pork barrel spending.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

Assume I'm 100% against it. Convince me.

The stem cells that we get are from parents who wanted to have children but, could not because of mutations in the genes, etc. So the sperm and the eggs went into a lab and were combined and frozen. The unfrozen ones were sent back to the doctor, who would implant them into the women. The frozen "embryos" stay frozen in the bank and the couple pays a monthly fee to keep them there. So there is a few hundred sitting there, and the couple tries for one more and then their done. What happens to the hundreds more of frozen embryos? The couple can decide to keep paying the fee forever, simply destroying them, or donating them to science. So we wouldn't be getting mother pregnant just to tear some baby from her, to destroy by making stem cells to save hundreds--even thousands of dieing children and young adults. They have even found ways to extract the cells without harming the embryo.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

We can get stem cells "ethically" now, so that worry is moot.

I am well aware

But it my primary concern, that and making sure scientists are not creating humans:cool

 

[gLing]

I am well aware

But it my primary concern, that and making sure scientists are not creating humans:cool

They can do that with cloning.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

They can do that with cloning.

I don't want them doing that period

By any means

 

[Goat Whisperer]

:24:

Ok, so we did clone an embryo in a non-federally funded lab. Let me tell you something this I can agree could become a huge ethical problem/issue There is NO POSSIBLE WAY to prevent this from happening either than trusting scientists not to do it, we ban it in america, they go to canada, we ban it there, england, we ban it there, france (Let me tell you in france they don't ever ban stuff... either then stupid Americans of course), my point is they could of hidden science labs in the middle of Siberia by now. We have no idea :dunno who know maybe in Czech Republic they have 500 practice clones growing... the point is that we can't stop them if they REALLY want to do it. I mean why do we care so much, cloning vs. stem cells= completely different anyway...

 

[Goat Whisperer]

I didn't mean why do we care in the way you think, I just mean it doesn't have much to do with stem cells. I am against cloning humans, changing the genetic make-up of a twig to make it into food for 3rd world country, that I am for.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

:24:

Ok, so we did clone an embryo in a non-federally funded lab. Let me tell you something this I can agree could become a huge ethical problem/issue There is NO POSSIBLE WAY to prevent this from happening either than trusting scientists not to do it, we ban it in america, they go to canada, we ban it there, england, we ban it there, france (Let me tell you in france they don't ever ban stuff... either then stupid Americans of course), my point is they could of hidden science labs in the middle of Siberia by now. We have no idea :dunno who know maybe in Czech Republic they have 500 practice clones growing... the point is that we can't stop them if they REALLY want to do it. I mean why do we care so much, cloning vs. stem cells= completely different anyway...

Take a deep breath....Deep cleansing breath

Gi Gi and I both understand they are different issues. Besides, we already proved that the Bush administration can stop mobile labs by invading a major city So that will fix that.

I have no issue with stem cell research as long as harvesting is ethical, and the science is put to good use.

 

[gLing]

changing the genetic make-up of a twig to make it into food for 3rd world country, that I am for.

What will beavers eat if all the twigs are turned into bread?

 

[All Else Failed]

I am well aware

But it my primary concern, that and making sure scientists are not creating humans:cool

That would be awesome.

 

[Sparkey Duck]

I'm of the opinion that the benifits of it are seemingly boundless, however, are those benefits worth the usurpment of moralistic and ethical values..? ergo, I'm yet to make up my mind really.