Spanking in Schools

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Kyle B

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Anyone else notice that all the crazy shit happens in Florida?

" You cant buy them anywhere" oh har har, I wonder why.
 

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I would NEVER, EVER, think of spanking a child in school. EVER. That is a form of punishment that either should or shouldn't be given out by the parent. A teacher or other school official has no business using spanking as a form of control or punishment in a school setting. Ever. There are plenty of other more productive ways of "punishing" a student while they are in a school setting.
 

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I'd break necks if I found out this crap was happening around here.
No way in hell would I allow this.
 

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This is where my college roommate teaches and when to school (not the school, the same county). Five licks or five days (of suspension) is how she grew up and I think she got paddled once. I don't think they're used all that frequently. I know when I was in elementary school, they showed us the paddle and mention that we could get it but I don't know of anyone that actually did.

As a parent, I don't think that I would want to let anyone but my husband and I spank our child. They don't really work for him anyway.


Anyone else notice that all the crazy shit happens in Florida?

We honestly never noticed until we moved out of Florida. I'd like to think that I was the stablizing factor in state and now it's letting me know that I'm wanted back in the state.
 

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I always thought this thread was about SPEAKING in schools. That's the title I've been seeing for the last few days. But no I'm against this. Cause technically isn't that assault? And is someone tried that I on me I'd use the fucking paddle against them.
 

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Why would you want to spank kids if you were a teacher? Is it sexual, a feeling of power or control?
 

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I always thought this thread was about SPEAKING in schools. That's the title I've been seeing for the last few days. But no I'm against this. Cause technically isn't that assault? And is someone tried that I on me I'd use the fucking paddle against them.

I did some Wikipedia research on the subject. It's all quite interesting:

[h=3][Corporal Punishment in the] United States[/h] See also: Paddle (spanking)
Individual US states have the power to ban corporal punishment in their schools. Currently, it is banned in public schools in 31 U.S. states and the District of Columbia.[SUP][95][/SUP] In two of these states, New Jersey[SUP][96][/SUP] and Iowa,[SUP][97][/SUP] it is illegal in private schools as well. The 19 states that have not banned it are mostly in the South. It is still used to a significant (though declining)[SUP][98][/SUP] degree in some public schools in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Texas.[SUP][95][/SUP]
In 1867 New Jersey became the first U.S. state to abolish corporal punishment in schools. The second was Massachusetts 104 years later in 1971. The most recent state to outlaw school corporal punishment was New Mexico in 2011.
Private schools in most states are exempt from state bans and may choose to use the paddle. Here too, most of those which actually do so are to be found in Southern states. These are largely, but by no means exclusively, Christian evangelical or fundamentalist schools.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][99][/SUP][SUP][100][/SUP]
Most urban public school systems, even in states where it is permitted, have abolished corporal punishment. Statistics collected by the federal government show that the use of the paddle has been declining consistently, in all states where it is used, over at least the past 20 years. The anti-spanking campaign Center for Effective Discipline, extrapolating from federal statistics, estimates that the number of students spanked or paddled in 2006 in U.S. public schools was about 223,000.[SUP][98][/SUP]
Statistics show that black and Hispanic students are more likely to be paddled than white students,[SUP][98][/SUP] possibly because minority-race parents are more inclined to approve of it.[SUP][101][/SUP][SUP][102][/SUP] However, a study in Kentucky found that minority students were disproportionately targeted by discipline policies generally, not only corporal punishment.[SUP][103][/SUP]
Federal statistics consistently show that around 80% of school paddlings in the U.S. are of boys, most likely because boys exhibit more often than girls the kinds of misbehaviour for which corporal punishment is thought appropriate.[SUP][104][/SUP]
One study has alleged that students with disabilities are "subjected to corporal punishment at disproportionately high rates, approximately twice the rate of the general student population in some States".[SUP][105][/SUP]
Corporal punishment in American schools is administered to the seat of the student's trousers or skirt with a specially-made wooden paddle. This often used to take place in the classroom or hallway, but nowadays the punishment is usually given privately in the principal's office.
Most public school districts lay down detailed rules as to how the ceremony is to be carried out, and in many cases these are published in the school's student-parent handbook.[SUP][3][/SUP]
In 1983 a school administrator struggled with a student, trying to force her to bend over a chair to receive a paddling. During the struggle, the student fell against a desk, sustaining a serious injury to her back.[SUP][106][/SUP] In order to avoid similar incidents, a school district might adopt a rule which provides, "Corporal punishment shall not be administered if it requires holding a student or struggling with a student."[SUP][107][/SUP]
Increasingly, corporal punishment in US schools is, either explicitly or de facto, a matter of choice for the student. Thus, the rules of the Alexander City Schools provide, "No student is required to submit to corporal punishment."[SUP][108][/SUP] Many school handbooks provide that where a student refuses to submit to a paddling, he or she will receive some other punishment instead, such as suspension. Students are unlikely nowadays to be forcibly restrained while being paddled, as happened in the 1970 case which came to the Supreme Court in 1977 as Ingraham v. Wright.[SUP][109][/SUP]
Many school districts also offer parents an opportunity to state whether or not they wish corporal punishment to be used on their sons and daughters. Typically, the parents fill out a form which is filed in the school office. In many districts this is an "opt-out" system. In others an "opt-in" system applies, whereby no student is so punished without explicit parental consent.
A bill to end the use of corporal punishment in schools was introduced into the United States House of Representatives in June 2010 during the 111th Congress.[SUP][110][/SUP][SUP][111][/SUP] The bill, H.R. 5628,[SUP][112][/SUP] was referred to the United States House Committee on Education and Labor where it was not brought up for a vote. As of June 2011 a similar bill has not been re-introduced in the 112th Congress. A previous bill "to deny funds to educational programs that allow corporal punishment"[SUP][113][/SUP] was introduced into the U.S. House of Representatives in 1991 by Representative Major R. Owens. That bill, H.R. 1522, did not become law.
 

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I got paddled a bunch of times in middle school, lol. That was in the mid 1970's. Didn't do a damned bit of good - we always laughed about it afterward. I don't recall anyone in high school getting spanked - when kids get adult-sized it's not to smart to assault them. ;)

Which begs to question - if you hit someone with a paddle out on the street it is aggravated assault, but if a school official strikes a child it is corporal punishment? :dunno
 

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If I had a child this wouldn't fly. Besides that, paddling is only effective if the child gets what they did was wrong. If you keep paddling them and they keep doing it then it's simply useless.
 

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If I had a child this wouldn't fly. Besides that, paddling is only effective if the child gets what they did was wrong. If you keep paddling them and they keep doing it then it's simply useless.

THIS is a very good point!
 

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Why would you want to spank kids if you were a teacher? Is it sexual, a feeling of power or control?

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"Come here and get your ssssspankin!"
 

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If I had a child this wouldn't fly. Besides that, paddling is only effective if the child gets what they did was wrong. If you keep paddling them and they keep doing it then it's simply useless.

Docking time off recess is probably more effective.

When I was in elementary school, we had two recess spots. One was the playground, one of those all wooden ones with lots of slides and monkey-bars and such. It was built sometime during the 80s and was only recently demolished. Kids loved it so much that their parents would bring them to play on it during the weekends. The other spot was a blacktop where you could do lots of blacktop type stuff. One class painted a map of the United States, with each state a different color. The map stayed there for a good 10+ years. That was some good times.

Yea so, no recess = good punishment.
 

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I'd just like to say that if a teacher/principal were to spank my child... and I wasn't aware that they still could .... I'd be all over them like flies on poop!

If my child did something so wrong as to be determined that a spanking was in order.... they had better place a call to me first. If anyone is going to spank my child..... I'll be the one to decide if it's necessary.... and then I know my child best and spanking would be the last thing needed to bring them in line. Privileges lost hurts most. That and I have lectures stored up like you wouldn't believe. :D
 

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here, they send home a note for you to sign to give them permission for corporal punishment. i signed it. i spank at home if needed, they have my permission to do the same. but its not the go to form of discipline (for me or the school) warnings and other forms are given out first. when those dont work, spanking is the last result. majority of the time, its never gotten that far
 
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