Science Saved My Soul.....................

[Johnfromokc]

....................From Religion

An absolutely brilliant, powerful presentation that both believers and non believers will enjoy.

"When I think of what science has done for me compared to what religion tried to do to me, I shiver." - Phil Hellenes

Organized religions mutate over time and grow in spohistication, as "holy men" learn what works and what doesn't; what makes people obedient and what causes rebellion; what ideas people can easily escape, and which will haunt them until they have to pray just to stop the nagging fear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6w2M50_Xdk

 

[sexysadie]

It's amazing isnt' it, and through scientific eyes, we get to enjoy it........but science didn't create it, it only uncovered it. Imagine being the creator of such brilliance, yet such simplicity wrapped up into one complex universe.....wow! True, the bible speaks to us of a physical hell that most people don't believe is real, but scientists also tried to convince us at one point that the earth was flat....lol

The great minds behind some of the greatest discoveries of this universe were created by God.....let us not forget that. He's given us so much, hasn't He?

Great post!

 

[Johnfromokc]

He's given us so much, hasn't He?
Great post!

Glad you enjoyed the vid. If there is indeed a god, yes, he's given us everything, the bad along with the good - like cancer, heart disease, flesh eating bacteria, microbes, viruses, childhood illness and death, war in his name, famine, hatred of unbelievers and other competing religions............

True, the bible speaks to us of a physical hell that most people don't believe is real, but scientists also tried to convince us at one point that the earth was flat....lol

This is the first I've heard of scientists attempting to convince anyone the earth was flat. Who were these "scientists"? Most flat earth "theory" is religious or superstitious in origin. The Catholic church threatened to throw Galileo in prison for even suggesting the earth rotated around the sun; after all, the scriptures could not be wrong, now could they?

 

[sexysadie]

Just gotta love sweeping statements that encompasses whole groups of people...lol


So............ if there is a God, He created cancer?

 

[Peter Parka]

I wonder who created god seeing certain religious people cant grasp the idea of any other way of things existing? :humm:

 

[Johnfromokc]

Just gotta love sweeping statements that encompasses whole groups of people...lol


So............ if there is a God, He created cancer?

Well, did you not say god created everything? If that is true, then believers can't pick and choose can they?

 

[sexysadie]

Well, did you not say god created everything? If that is true, then believers can't pick and choose can they?

Cancer didn't really exist until 80 or so years ago.....God created man in His image, He created the universe, the wildlife etc.......by your way of thinking, He also created the pencil or the laptop....lol...don't you think man should take the credit for anything?

Your typical answers are very amusing but a bit on the boring side.....don't you have a single original thought of your own that can challenge me?

 

[Alien Allen]

Cancer didn't really exist until 80 or so years ago.....God created man in His image, He created the universe, the wildlife etc.......by your way of thinking, He also created the pencil or the laptop....lol...don't you think man should take the credit for anything?

Your typical answers are very amusing but a bit on the boring side.....don't you have a single original thought of your own that can challenge me?

You really believe that?? :eek

 

[sexysadie]

You really believe that?? :eek

I'm guessing, but something like that....I DO know that God didn't create it...lol

 

[HK]

Cancer didn't really exist until 80 or so years ago.....

The oldest recorded case of cancer was in Egypt, 1500 BC. So your figures are just a tiny bit inaccurate there.

 

[Peter Parka]

Cancer didn't really exist until 80 or so years ago

 

[Alien Allen]

I'm guessing, but something like that....I DO know that God didn't create it...lol

You really should read something other than the bible

Cancer has been around since the Romans at a minimum.

As to who created it. How the heck can you believe god is so all encompassing yet say god had nothing to do with it? :willy_nilly::willy_nilly::willy_nilly:

Religion sure does create some strange thought waves:eek

 

[Peter Parka]

I think they just make it up as they go along, lol.

 

[Zorak]

It always baffles me why people can't just open another tab and google a fact they pluck from out of the air first...

 

[sexysadie]

Forgive me members of OTz for I was wrong with that fact..cancer was of course around for a lot longer than 80 years, I don't know where I got that fact, just some very wrong imfo....ok...can we move on now or would you like to tar and feather me as well?

Now......this still does not prove that God created cancer. It really makes me chuckle to see so many people so hell bent to blame cancer on a God they don't even believe in....lol....that being said....lets elaborate on your way of thinking....just for an example...

I'm not to blame for what I say here.............the one who created the thread is responsible......right?

 

[sexysadie]

I think they just make it up as they go along, lol.

No, we do it to get a rise out of you.......works every time too:24:

 

[Peter Parka]

I dont blame god for cancer but I dont really believe he made all the good stuff either. A lot more consistant and unbiased than picking and choosing what you think he made to fit in with your beliefs and then parrotting it off as fact, dont you think?

 

[HK]

Either he's responsible for the creation of everything, or he's not. Which is it?

And if he didn't create cancer, where do you think it came from Sadie?

 

[sexysadie]

I dont blame god for cancer but I dont really believe he made all the good stuff either. A lot more consistant and unbiased than picking and choosing what you think he made to fit in with your beliefs and then parrotting it off as fact, dont you think?

I believe that God is good, He doesn't create diseases that kill people anymore than He creates war and crime. WE DO THAT ALL ON OUR OWN...You don't give Him credit for the good things, you don't blame Him for the bad.........then what IS God to you?

I said one thing in haste and you're all horny to lash out at me because of it....it's not like I purposely left out a single word to add drama to a thread or something...lol

 

[sexysadie]

Either he's responsible for the creation of everything, or he's not. Which is it?

And if he didn't create cancer, where do you think it came from Sadie?

So you think He created tattoos too? Did He create the duvet on your bed or the dvd player on your mantle too? C'mon.....you can't be that one dimentional?