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FOXNews.com - San Francisco Considers Nation's First Safe Injection Site for Addicts - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
SAN FRANCISCO — City health officials took the first tentative steps toward opening America's first legal safe-injection room, where addicts could shoot up heroin, cocaine and other drugs under the supervision of nurses.
Hoping to reduce San Francisco's high rate of fatal drug overdoses, the public health department co-sponsored a symposium Thursday on the only such facility in North America, a 4-year-old Vancouver site where an estimated 700 intravenous users a day self-administer narcotics.
Hundreds of community activists and health workers attending the forum also discussed what it would take to get a similar service going here and heard recovering addicts talk about why they think it is a good idea.
Organizers of the daylong forum, which included a coalition of nonprofit health and social-service groups, acknowledge that it could take years to get an injection facility up and running. Along with legal hurdles at the state and federal level, such an effort would be almost sure to face political opposition.
Bertha Madras, deputy director of demand reduction for the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, called San Francisco's consideration of such a facility "disconcerting" and "poor public policy."

"The underlying philosophy is, 'We accept drug addiction, we accept the state of affairs as acceptable,"' Madras said. "This is a form of giving up."
Sixty-five similar facilities exist in 27 cities in eight other countries, but no other U.S. cities have considered creating one, according to Hilary McQuie, Western director for the Harm Reduction Coalition, a nonprofit that promotes alternative drug treatment methods.
"If it happens anywhere in the U.S., it will most likely start in San Francisco," McQuie said. "It really just depends on if there is a political will here. How long it takes for that political will to develop is the main factor."
Drug overdoses represented about one of every seven emergency calls handled by city paramedics between July 2006 and July 2007, according to San Francisco Fire Department Capt. Niels Tangherlini. At the same time, the number of deaths linked to overdoses has declined from a high of about 160 in 1995 to 40 in 2004, he said.
Colfax estimated that there are between 11,000 and 15,000 intravenous drug users in San Francisco, most of them homeless men. Like many large U.S. cities, the city operates a clean-needle exchange program to reduce HIV and hepatitis C infections.
In Switzerland, Spain, Australia and other European countries with such programs, the sites have been placed in existing public health clinics and created as stand-alone facilities, said Andrew Reynolds, a program coordinator with San Francisco's city-run sexually transmitted diseases clinic.
Possible locations for opening one in the city include homeless shelters, AIDS clinics or drug treatment centers, he said.
"They aren't these hedonistic dens of iniquity," Reynolds said. "There is no buying or selling of drugs on the premises. Staff do not assist in injections."
While it's too early to tell what the room in San Francisco would look like, Vancouver's InSite program is located on the upper floor of a low-rise building in a downtown neighborhood where drug users shoot up in the open.
The site, exempt from federal drug laws so users can visit without fear of arrest, has 12 private booths where its 8,000 registered users inject drugs such as heroin, cocaine or crystal meth, running through as many as two million needles a day. They can use equipment and techniques provided by the staff, and then relax with a cup of coffee or get medical attention in the "chill out" room where they are observed, said program coordinator Sarah Evans.
"It looks kind of like a hair salon," Evans said of the bustling space. "If we were a restaurant, we would be making a profit."
Thomas Kerr, a University of British Columbia researcher who has studied the program, said that while 800 overdoses have occurred on the premises, none resulted in death because of the medical supervision provided at InSite. His research also has shown an increase in addicts seeking drug treatment and a decrease in abandoned syringes, needle-sharing, drug-related crime and other problems since the clinic opened, he said.

No freakin way. You can't make something illegal, then say "Come over here and do it." Can they make a Spouse Beating area, or maybe a Rape Station? I mean come the fuck on.
 
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they have something like that in vancouver.
I think its one of the only ways the can find to actually get the chance to interact with the user. In these centers there is people who will help them quit so is i dont see it as being really bad. atleast they can use clean needles or whatever and not be roaming the streets
 

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Ah, San Francisco.....weirdos, mostly harmless, allowed to walk around like a thousand movies are being made all at once in the same place! :p
 

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FOXNews.com - San Francisco Considers Nation's First Safe Injection Site for Addicts - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News


No freakin way. You can't make something illegal, then say "Come over here and do it." Can they make a Spouse Beating area, or maybe a Rape Station? I mean come the fuck on.
What????? you guys didn't have those before?
In my most honest and pratical opinion, they are very good for taking the problem out of the streets. They are not trying to reduce the use of drugs, but to keep it as safe as possible and I think that is very important. If you didn't have those, the people would still take drugs, but they'd do it in the streets and that is a health risk for all of us.
 

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they have something like that in vancouver.
I think its one of the only ways the can find to actually get the chance to interact with the user. In these centers there is people who will help them quit so is i dont see it as being really bad. atleast they can use clean needles or whatever and not be roaming the streets
Agreed. They normally get to talk with social workers and psychologists (I have a friend (psychologist) who works there and they def do a good service).
 

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What????? you guys didn't have those before?
In my most honest and pratical opinion, they are very good for taking the problem out of the streets. They are not trying to reduce the use of drugs, but to keep it as safe as possible and I think that is very important. If you didn't have those, the people would still take drugs, but they'd do it in the streets and that is a health risk for all of us.
Well, there's nothing holding them there. They can use the drugs and go right out the door, back on the streets.

Why would we make something illegal, and then set up a government funded place to do it? Like I said in the first post, what's next? A Rape Station?

I think using taxpayer money to encourage ILLEGAL drug use is bullshit. Why not use the money and set up a free rehab center?
 

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Well, there's nothing holding them there. They can use the drugs and go right out the door, back on the streets.

Why would we make something illegal, and then set up a government funded place to do it? Like I said in the first post, what's next? A Rape Station?

I think using taxpayer money to encourage ILLEGAL drug use is bullshit. Why not use the money and set up a free rehab center?
Yes, they go back to the streets but they leave there what they used to inject themselves, plus reducing the risk of getting of AIDS and other diseases between other drug dealers and people in the streets who may be unfortunate enough to step on them or something.
Also you avoid children from seeing them take drugs in the streets, which I think it's a good idea.
Drugs are illegal but that doesn't mean we should think that people are not going to do them. What this center wants to do is avoid that the problem goes further than that. And to be honest, comparing that to rape is going too far. This people only harm themselves if they take drugs inside this places.
oh, an I don't think it encourages it, it just doesn't swim in the denial of drugs not being a problem and activily tries to change the situation.
 

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Spending money on a state sponsored rehab center doesn't swim in the denial of people using drugs either. And would be a much better way to spend money than this idea as the money would be going towards helping people that actually want to be helped.

I agree with Donnie on this hands down.
 

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Spending money on a state sponsored rehab center doesn't swim in the denial of people using drugs either. And would be a much better way to spend money than this idea as the money would be going towards helping people that actually want to be helped.

I agree with Donnie on this hands down.
or people to go to the rehab they have to want to quit. Not everyone wants to be helped, as you said. Now this has not so much to do with helping them which I nevertheless aprove, but with taking them out of the streets and make everything a bit more healthy, for the rest of us.
 

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or people to go to the rehab they have to want to quit. Not everyone wants to be helped, as you said. Now this has not so much to do with helping them which I nevertheless aprove, but with taking them out of the streets and make everything a bit more healthy, for the rest of us.

It's an unnecessarily costly response, in my opinion. People who want to be helped can already be helped. Also, like Donnie said, there's nothing keeping the addicts in there, so they could just shoot up and leave.

If the main concern is to keep the streets cleaner and to stop the sharing of dirty needles, a more cost effective technique would be to bring back the CDC's needle exchange program. I really don't see where they are going with this proposal.
 

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It's an unnecessarily costly response, in my opinion. People who want to be helped can already be helped
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And what about the rest of us who just may want to have a safer enviroment for us and our children and don't need to go to rehab because we don't take drugs?
Also, like Donnie said, there's nothing keeping the addicts in there, so they could just shoot up and leave.
Still, they don't take the drugs in the streets, don't share the needles and don't leave them around so kids can find them and get infected.

If the main concern is to keep the streets cleaner and to stop the sharing of dirty needles, a more cost effective technique would be to bring back the CDC's needle exchange program. I really don't see where they are going with this proposal.
I am sure that this is included in the proposal (at least over here it is)
 

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And what about the rest of us who just may want to have a safer enviroment for us and our children and don't need to go to rehab because we don't take drugs?

Still, they don't take the drugs in the streets, don't share the needles and don't leave them around so kids can find them and get infected.


I am sure that this is included in the proposal (at least over here it is)

The drugs may not be in the streets, but they addicts still are. You wouldn't be any safer really, since these people are still out roaming the streets. I've seen first hand what many terrible deeds drug-influenced minds are capable of. This kind of program won't clean up a neighborhood, it just displaces the mess. I would hate to live in a neighborhood nearby one of these clinics. Property value would tank.

My point is that this kind of a center won't do enough good to justify cost.
 

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The drugs may not be in the streets, but they addicts still are. You wouldn't be any safer really, since these people are still out roaming the streets. I've seen first hand what many terrible deeds drug-influenced minds are capable of. This kind of program won't clean up a neighborhood, it just displaces the mess. I would hate to live in a neighborhood nearby one of these clinics. Property value would tank.

My point is that this kind of a center won't do enough good to justify cost.
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