Real Football (American Football to the foreigners)

porterjack said:
one thing that might be of inteest is the relative growth of Soccer in the US compared to American Football in England

i.e on nay given day the US Soccer tema can give England a good competitive game, how ever i doubt a team of Englishmen could even dream of getting close to a US National Team in real football
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Well we'll never know if the USA is the only country in a world championship.;) There have been a few Brits in the NFL. I'm surprised more rugby kickers dont cross over, there's more money in the NFL and being a kicker is far easier than in rugby.
 
Peter Parka said:
Well we'll never know if the USA is the only country in a world championship.;) There have been a few Brits in the NFL. I'm surprised more rugby kickers dont cross over, there's more money in the NFL and being a kicker is far easier than in rugby.
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Good point, being a great field goal, PAT or kicking after 4 out or scoring, you really don't have much physical danger like most positions, you can have a long career and be a hero if ur like Elam was. :thumbup
 
hart said:
Good point, being a great field goal, PAT or kicking after 4 out or scoring, you really don't have much physical danger like most positions, you can have a long career and be a hero if ur like Elam was. :thumbup
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from what i have seen i agree kicking a rugby ball is harder but i doubt rugby players are under the same pressure i.e. OT win or loss in a play off game
 
porterjack said:
from what i have seen i agree kicking a rugby ball is harder but i doubt rugby players are under the same pressure i.e. OT win or loss in a play off game
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True, but they get paid LOTS OF MOOLA to be under that pressure, if I could kick worth a darn for five mos a year and get paid what they do.....there are blood pressure pills ;) :thumbup
 
Peter Parka said:
Well we'll never know if the USA is the only country in a world championship.;) There have been a few Brits in the NFL. I'm surprised more rugby kickers dont cross over, there's more money in the NFL and being a kicker is far easier than in rugby.
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I don't know about that.

I was a pretty useful fly half, but I wouldn't much fancy kicking in American Football. Looks far harder.
 
retro said:
There's a Canadian team in MLB :p and baseball originated in the States anyway. So as far as anyone was concerned, it was the World Series, because there weren't any other places playing baseball.
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REALLY.... So Korea, Japan, Dominican Republic, Cuba are not places ?

As well..

By the early 1830s, there were reports of a variety of uncodified bat-and-ball games recognizable as early forms of baseball being played around North America. These games were often referred to locally as "town ball", though other names such as "round-ball" and "base-ball" were also used.[9] Among the earliest examples to receive a detailed description—albeit five decades after the fact, in a letter from an attendee to Sporting Life magazine—took place in Beachville, Ontario, Canada, in 1838. There were many similarities to modern baseball, and some crucial differences: five bases (or byes); first bye just 18 feet (5.5 m) from the home bye; batter out if a hit ball was caught after the first bounce.[10] The once widely accepted story that Abner Doubleday invented baseball in Cooperstown, New York, in 1839 has been conclusively debunked by sports historians.[11] In 1845, Alexander Cartwright, a member of New York City's Knickerbockers club, led the codification of the so-called Knickerbocker Rules.[12] The practice, common to bat-and-ball games of the day, of "soaking" or "plugging"—effecting a putout by hitting a runner with a thrown ball—was barred. The rules thus facilitated the use of a smaller, harder ball than had been common. Several other rules also brought the Knickerbockers' game close to the modern one, though a ball caught on the first bounce was, again, an out and only underhand pitching was allowed.[13] While there are reports that the New York Knickerbockers played games in 1845, the contest now recognized as the first officially recorded baseball game in U.S. history took place on June 19, 1846, in Hoboken, New Jersey: the "New York Nine" defeated the Knickerbockers, 23–1, in four innings.[14] With the Knickerbocker code as the basis, the rules of modern baseball continued to evolve over the next half-century.[15]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball

Not to pee on anyone's parade but...

You could even go further back in time if you wanted too.. Canada does not care about the title of "all that matters is being first" so who cares..
 
Francis said:
Actually the trend is for soccer ( your football ) style kickers.. They tend to be more accurate on the kicks..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_goal_(football)
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Well, no different really.

The reason I was good at kicking in Rugby was because I played football. But what I meant was, it's pretty easy to kick in Rugby. Lots of time, and hell, you can choose the distance you want to kick from for conversions.
 
The difference - rugby kickers have to run around for 80 minutes with only one break and then kick goals from angles, NFL kickers sit on the side, wander on for a minute and kick goals, straight on before wandering off again. Jonny Wilkinson can run around and kick rugby goals from over the half way line from angles, imagine what he could do in NFL from a straight kick between the posts without having to be knackerted first.:thumbup
 
Francis said:
REALLY.... So Korea, Japan, Dominican Republic, Cuba are not places ?
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I wasn't talking about who plays baseball currently, I was speaking of when the World Series was originated. The modern World Series was first played in 1903... something tells me that baseball wasn't being played professionally to that degree in South Korea, Japan, the Dominican republic, or Cuba in 1903 ;)
 
Peter Parka said:
The difference - rugby kickers have to run around for 80 minutes with only one break and then kick goals from angles, NFL kickers sit on the side, wander on for a minute and kick goals, straight on before wandering off again. Jonny Wilkinson can run around and kick rugby goals from over the half way line from angles, imagine what he could do in NFL from a straight kick between the posts without having to be knackerted first.:thumbup
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I've never seen Wilkonson even attempt a goal from over the half way line unless the wind was with him.

Also the rugby ball is bigger, so is easier to kick accurately. And they get all the time they need.
 
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