Question for AEF

[All Else Failed]

I didn't ask this because I thought you were a pacifist. In fact, I was hoping you would answer the way you did because to say you wouldn't kill in the hypothetical situation would simply be insane.

Here's my point that I want you to consider:

To you (and everyone else on here), taking the life of a would-be murderer who hasn't killed yet is justifiable. But to kill a serial murderer who was convicted in a fair trial by a jury of his peers makes people hypocrites and should be illegal.

Do you see a flaw in this logic? Do you see where I'm coming from?



They aren't one and the same, but I think comparisons can be made.

Its justifiable if he threatens your life at that very second. There is not time for a trial, its then and now, in that second. If we arrest a murderer, there is time to evaluate the "why" and the "how" and there is no need for violence. We can sentence him to prison time without any loss of life.


I don't see how you can compare self defense and the death penalty together.

 

[dt3]

Its justifiable if he threatens your life at that very second. There is not time for a trial, its then and now, in that second. If we arrest a murderer, there is time to evaluate the "why" and the "how" and there is no need for violence. We can sentence him to prison time without any loss of life.


I don't see how you can compare self defense and the death penalty together.

So we should encourage murderers to prey on the weak that can't defend themselves?

"If you try to kill this strapping young lad, he may kill you back. Go after little Jessica here, and we'll let you live. And in AEF's system, we may even let you stay in the comfort of your own home".

Doesn't make sense to me. You can defend yourself, but we can't defend the people who can't defend themselves.





And what about the lives of other prison inmates? Once a murderer is in jail for life, what's stopping him from killing them?

 

[All Else Failed]

So we should encourage murderers to prey on the weak that can't defend themselves?

"If you try to kill this strapping young lad, he may kill you back. Go after little Jessica here, and we'll let you live. And in AEF's system, we may even let you stay in the comfort of your own home".

Doesn't make sense to me. You can defend yourself, but we can't defend the people who can't defend themselves.





And what about the lives of other prison inmates? Once a murderer is in jail for life, what's stopping him from killing them?

How the hell did you get that out of my statement? :confused




"Doesn't make sense to me. You can defend yourself, but we can't defend the people who can't defend themselves."

^^^ I have no clue where you got that from out of my posts.


If you are attacked, MAN OR WOMAN, they have the right to defend themselves, and if necessary, kill their attacker. You can't just let them kill you without a fight. NOW, if a murderer kill s someone and they are caught, they should be put through the legal process and jailed. What is so hard to understand about that?

Nothing is stopping a murderer from killing another inmate, thats why murders need to be housed in maximum security.

 

[dt3]

How the hell did you get that out of my statement? :confused




"Doesn't make sense to me. You can defend yourself, but we can't defend the people who can't defend themselves."

^^^ I have no clue where you got that from out of my posts.


If you are attacked, MAN OR WOMAN, they have the right to defend themselves, and if necessary, kill their attacker. You can't just let them kill you without a fight. NOW, if a murderer kill s someone and they are caught, they should be put through the legal process and jailed. What is so hard to understand about that?

Nothing is stopping a murderer from killing another inmate, thats why murders need to be housed in maximum security.

Haven't you said many times that murderers have a right to live? If so, then what gives you the right to kill them in self-defense if all humans have the same right to live?

 

[dt3]

They deserve to be alive because all human life has value. You can't just kill people because they are inconvenient to you.

Unless they're currently trying to kill you, then their life has no value to you, right?

I wouldn't change my opinion. I would want them to spend the rest of their live sin a cell. Thats more of a punishment.

Then why defend yourself? If life in prison is worse than death, then why not just let the guy kill you?

 

[All Else Failed]

Haven't you said many times that murderers have a right to live? If so, then what gives you the right to kill them in self-defense if all humans have the same right to live?

Everyone has the right to live, but in a self defense situation, you can't just let someone kill you. Both the murderer and the victim have equal right to life, but the situation calls for one to protect their own life, since there is no other option available at that time.

 

[All Else Failed]

Unless they're currently trying to kill you, then their life has no value to you, right?



Then why defend yourself? If life in prison is worse than death, then why not just let the guy kill you?

No, they still have value even when trying to kill me, its just that there is no other option for me to take but to defend myself. Defending myself also doesn't mean I have to kill him, also.






Idk, living seems to be working out for me so far.

 

[memento_mori]

i can't imagine me killing the attacker