Question About The Flood In The Bible

[Diggin Deep]

I was under the impression that although Adam and Eve were depicted as the 'first' people, they were by no means the only people. Once they leave the Garden Of Eden, don't they join the people that live outside?

There are huge flaws with suggesting that two of anything can repopulate the world. Your second generation has no choice but inbreeding, and the more you do that sort of thing, the bigger the chances are of genetic defects and serious issues. We wouldn't have lasted a thousand years trying to work like that, let alone several million.

HK...I can't say that parts of me don't agree with you and understand exactly what you are saying.

Even though I am a Christian, once Agnostic, doesn't mean that I understand or even comprehend everything scripture says. At one time in my life, I studied at a Bible College to be a pastor, was a prison ministry pastor, was part of a Christian music group, etc. With all of that...I'd never claim to know or have all of the answers or even say I didn't have questions myself. As a matter of opinion...I believe and have faith in God (the Bible God as some put it)...another debatable topic "Faith". So...saying that...in my life, because of my beliefs, I just have to realize that not everything will make sense to me. Not everything will have a logical explanation to make me feel better about it. I also feel that as for me, it's not necessary for me to have every Biblical and Scientific answer to have a relationship with "God".

I don't have time in my life to try to understand everything the Bible says. I'm not saying that it isn't interesting and that I don't enjoy a good debate. I love it...and I really enjoy reading and investigating all sides of it. My walk with "God" is my own and "He" gives me what I need to fulfill my personal walk with him. Knowing or not knowing every scientific detail won't strengthen or weaken my walk. What is important to me is my family and friends and trying to maintain my walk with God. All while hoping that my life, the way I live it, and my legacy is a testament to my faith.

 

[Diggin Deep]

Two huge inaccuracies here. Dinosaurs are facts, the flood is not, just speculation.

Peter...I didn't say that dinosaurs aren't facts. I believe in dinosaurs (T-Rex...ROAR!) I said it is scientific speculation on whether dinosaurs were in the Old Testament or if they were pre-A & E or if they co-existed with decendants of A & E. The flood as depicted in the Bible is not known to be "fact", but it is proven that at one time, all land was submerged by water.

I apologize if I was unclear on that

 

[Diggin Deep]

Woah woah woah woah...
Woah..

Man and dinosaurs living together?
And why assume to be dinosaurs. Dinosaurs aren't a myth. We have fossils that prove this.
Show me pieces of the ark

Like I said...I didn't say that dinosaurs weren't fact.

 

[Azazel]

Dinosaurs are facts, the flood is not, just speculation.

 

[Tim]

but it is proven that at one time, all land was submerged by water.

There is no such proof that all land was under water, none.

And to your earlier point about all the different races and languages... That happened when god destroyed the tower of babble. He dispersed all the people giving them a different tongue (language) so they could no longer work together to build a tower tall enough to reach heaven. With your credentials, I would have thought you would have known that.

 

[Zorak]

There is some evidence that a large flood engulged Eurasia some 10000 years ago. There is remains of a large boat in anatolia.

I have no doubt the bible in places is based off reality.

 

[Tuffdisc]

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[BornReady]

If you believe in miracles then it's possible for two of each animal to repopulate the earth. But if you believe in miracles then no animals would be needed to repopulate the earth. All their dead bones could just come back to life or they could just sprout up out of the ground fully grown. If you believe in miracles it would be no problem to fit all the animals on the ark and take care of them. God could shrink them all down to 1 inch tall before they got on and then restore them to their original size after they got off.

Two huge inaccuracies here. Dinosaurs are facts, the flood is not, just speculation.

The flood isn't even speculation. There were civilizations on earth at the time of the "global" flood. They continued on right through the flood without missing a beat. A global flood in recent history is not a credible theory. It is only believed by religious literalists. Some of them still believe the earth is flat. Scientists think the earth was covered by water at one time. But that was something like 4 billion years ago.

There are huge flaws with suggesting that two of anything can repopulate the world.

True. I read a science paper once that said every time a species population has gotten smaller than 200, the species has gone extinct.

 

[itsmeJonB]

the grand canyon was formed in 5 seconds by the great flood. -Christian science

 

[BornReady]

the grand canyon was formed in 5 seconds by the great flood. -Christian science

Which means the pueblo indians discovered it before it even formed.

 

[Alien Allen]

You mean evolution made it possible?

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[Tuffdisc]

the grand canyon was formed in 5 seconds by the great flood. -Christian science

Really? Since when did someone say that?

 

[Diggin Deep]

There is no such proof that all land was under water, none.

And to your earlier point about all the different races and languages... That happened when god destroyed the tower of babble. He dispersed all the people giving them a different tongue (language) so they could no longer work together to build a tower tall enough to reach heaven. With your credentials, I would have thought you would have known that.

Yes Tim, I know about the tower of babble. Are you saying that every race and every language that is present today was present when God dispersed all of the people giving them a different tongue (language)? I very seriously doubt that. Regardless of what point in the Bible something happened, God has granted people the ability and power to learn, to grow and to change. How many languages aren't used any longer? How many African languages and tribes are there and have evolved? How many Native American languages and tribes are there / were there? Take the english language for instance, it is a West Germanic language that originiated from Anglo-Frisian dialects. The language wasn't even documented until around 100 A.D....far after the tower of babble. Look how it has evolved, how it has changed and still is changing.

My point was that as Adam & Eve, animals, and everything in the OT evolved regardless if it was at the hand of God or by their own doing, so have we; so have the languages used today, our technology, our history, our religions.

Please note that just because I studied Christianity and it's history, doesn't mean that I claim to know and understand every aspect of the Bible and it's history. On that note, just because I don't know and understand every aspect of the Bible and it's history, doesn't mean I don't believe it (Faith) and try to understand it more.

 

[Diggin Deep]

I do apologize for typing that all land was submerged by water. After reading your reply Tim, I went back and read what I wrote...OOOps! We all make mistakes

Regarding the world-wide flood. I doubt it will ever be proved or disproved scientifically. There are too many variables: erosion, geochronology, palenontology, geochemistry and just unexplained findings. Like finding fossils of sea creatures on land and on the tops of mountains. Regardless...I am definitely not a scientist and far from a creationism expert.