Punishment...

That's just dumb.
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Is there more child abuse in the world or is it being paid more attention these days? What was accepted in the past is now not. If you look at history, you might find spanking etc. was an accepted way of punishment for children. Some people went too far with this and over time, some saw a need to protect children from abuse. The pendulum swings . . .

Me? I don't hit my kiddo. And I won't. My dad never hit me - he didn't have to, I was a pretty easy kid to deal with. But I've heard some say their parents popped them from time to time, and they were glad for it. I've hard one say he never minded being beat. He was a very tough kid, and his attitude was "big deal, is this all ya got, old man?" and he continued to do whatever he wanted. The punishment was ineffective for him.
 
I got the belt... and a paddle. I didn't hate my parents for it... cause I deserved it. :nod:

I'm not having children... so I can't really say what I'd do. I really think it should be up to the parents though... I don't believe in telling other people how to live their life. Now if there's abuse involved, meaning leaving marks and such... I'm all about the police and protective services coming in at that point.
 
I think a smack on the ass is completely fine.

When I was a kid, and I played up, I would get a smack on the ass. I would then know not to fuck around with my parents. So when I knew I was about to do something bad (yes, they know what is right and wrong), I would think twice about doing it.

In my life I reckon I got about 10 smacks between mum and dad. From then on I respected them because I knew what would happen.

My fiance's kid, he is nearly 5 now, and he runs around and goes crazy. So she uses her "new age" bullshit on him, and when he does something naughty she says "It was very naughty what you did". He yells at her telling her not to touch him. Then, if she yells at him he will start to cry, and when he does that, she picks him up and hugs him.

To me, that is giving positive attention to bad behavior. So nothing changes. I think if she gave him a slap on the butt he would change, but that's just me.
 
I don't think smacking actually makes the child learn the lesson they're supposed to learn. More makes them decide not to do the naughty thing in fear of getting smacked, rather than actually knowing that it's a naughty thing to do. Which can mean that if the parent is not around, then they'd probably go ahead and do it.

But you make the child fearful of his parents. You make him think that if he does something naughty, his mummy or daddy will hurt him, and that's not the sort of thing a young child should be thinking. No child should be fearful of his or her parents.
 
I think a smack on the ass is completely fine.

When I was a kid, and I played up, I would get a smack on the ass. I would then know not to fuck around with my parents. So when I knew I was about to do something bad (yes, they know what is right and wrong), I would think twice about doing it.

In my life I reckon I got about 10 smacks between mum and dad. From then on I respected them because I knew what would happen.

My fiance's kid, he is nearly 5 now, and he runs around and goes crazy. So she uses her "new age" bullshit on him, and when he does something naughty she says "It was very naughty what you did". He yells at her telling her not to touch him. Then, if she yells at him he will start to cry, and when he does that, she picks him up and hugs him.

To me, that is giving positive attention to bad behavior. So nothing changes. I think if she gave him a slap on the butt he would change, but that's just me.
Sounds like something you and your fiance need to work out before wedding day. :) BTW, I completely agree with you. I was spanked from time to time, never turned out bad or me hating my parents or anything.
 
Our 3 y.o. refuses to use any sort of booster seat or anything during meals. He just sits in a regular chair like everyone else. Sometimes he gets a little wiggly and won't stay in his seat so I get a belt out to strap him down to the chair, like a seat-belt.

One time the in-laws were over and the little guy wasn't staying in his chair and I threatened to, "get the belt."

Look on mother-in-law's face: priceless.

We don't believe in any sort of corporal punishment. All it does is teach kids that it's acceptable to use violence to get others to do what you want, IMHO. I'll go so far as to say that I think it's a failure on the parent's part. You've failed to get the child to comply, so you hit them because you don't know what else to do. FAIL.

OMG!!! I laughed so hard when I read this b/c this is what my grandfather used to do to me, except i was 10 lol
 
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