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and if people were just safe in the first place they wouldn't get HPV.


Exactly! But lets just pump poison into our bodies because a drug company....after MONTHS:sarcasm of testing...has told them its safe....and thats easier than being responsible.:willy_nilly:


I dont have time to look for sources for the side effects right now..I have to get ready for work....but I WILL when I get home if you like.....my daughter watched 3 girls collapse after getting theirs...(didnt make the news though) and that was just at her school....
 
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and if people were just safe in the first place they wouldn't get HPV.
Exactly! But lets just pump poison into our bodies because a drug company....after MONTHS:sarcasm of testing...has told them its safe....and thats easier than being responsible.:willy_nilly:

I dont have time to look for sources for the side effects right now..I have to get ready for work....but I WILL when I get home if you like.....my daughter watched 3 girls collapse after getting theirs...(didnt make the news though) and that was just at her school....


yeah but I collapse sometimes when I get blood taken, and I passed the fuck out and threw up when I had my tattoo and it only took 10 minutes!!! :24:

I'm a sissy...I mean they may have collapsed, but I don't think the shot acts THAT quickly. Especially since you have to take three injections. I think it's three?? I don't remember.
 

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People can get HPV from someone and the guy can wear 5 condoms and still get it. You can get it even from the exposed area the condom doesnt cover.

HPV is so easy to get. you can have it and not even get symptoms and no way of knowing you have it and pass it on.

you can have safe sex and STILL get it. Im sure the only way of not getting it is not not do anything sexually at all


there was a rumor going around that a girl i had sex with unprotected has HPV. I confronted her about it and she said she got checked for it with a pap smear but nothing came up.

and that was years ago
 

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people can get hpv from someone and the guy can wear 5 condoms and still get it. You can get it even from the exposed area the condom doesnt cover.

hpv is so easy to get. You can have it and not even get symptoms and no way of knowing you have it and pass it on.

you can have safe sex and still get it. Im sure the only way of not getting it is not not do anything sexually at all


there was a rumor going around that a girl i had sex with unprotected has hpv. I confronted her about it and she said she got checked for it with a pap smear but nothing came up.

And that was years ago
agree!!
 

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I would not get it if I could and my children won't if it's still around.

One of the side effects is Guillian Barre. My brother almost died from that, and I saw what it can do and I also know that for him to recover as fully and as quickly as he did was a miracle.

He got it from a tetanus booster. I will likely never get a shot again. I don't know if it's a genetic thing or why it occurs (other than your body over attacking), so I'm not going to chance it.
 

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People can get HPV from someone and the guy can wear 5 condoms and still get it. You can get it even from the exposed area the condom doesnt cover.

HPV is so easy to get. you can have it and not even get symptoms and no way of knowing you have it and pass it on.

you can have safe sex and STILL get it. Im sure the only way of not getting it is not not do anything sexually at all


there was a rumor going around that a girl i had sex with unprotected has HPV. I confronted her about it and she said she got checked for it with a pap smear but nothing came up.

and that was years ago

yes BUT wearing a condom greatly reduces the risk as does not having sex when you have an outbreak of warts

and that's why it's important to get tested - because you can have it without knowing
 

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yeah but I collapse sometimes when I get blood taken, and I passed the fuck out and threw up when I had my tattoo and it only took 10 minutes!!! :24:

I'm a sissy...I mean they may have collapsed, but I don't think the shot acts THAT quickly. Especially since you have to take three injections. I think it's three?? I don't remember.


Fair enough...but it wasnt the needle or "needle phobia" that caused them to pass out...:p

I know one of the girls.....she had major headaches, nausea, and flu like body ache symptoms for a week afterwards....and thats just one of the MILD side effects...

Yes, some have died...and YES..I'd rather read up EVERYTHING pro and against before I put it into my body...and there just isnt enough info on this one yet....it was put on the market way too fast...

As I said...I'm pro CHOICE. and find that usually...I;ve done MUCH more research than your average "Joe parent" BECAUSE of my families history, and my profession.
 

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yes BUT wearing a condom greatly reduces the risk as does not having sex when you have an outbreak of warts

and that's why it's important to get tested - because you can have it without knowing

I was responding to your comment "and if people were just safe in the first place they wouldn't get HPV."

and also as far as I know there is no test for HPV for men. So how would we know if we dont get break outs, or they are very small we dont even notice cause they may be microscopic lesions
 

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I would not get it if I could and my children won't if it's still around.

One of the side effects is Guillian Barre. My brother almost died from that, and I saw what it can do and I also know that for him to recover as fully and as quickly as he did was a miracle.

He got it from a tetanus booster. I will likely never get a shot again. I don't know if it's a genetic thing or why it occurs (other than your body over attacking), so I'm not going to chance it.

I agree and completely respect your choice.

I respect everyone's choice as long as it based on real facts and not part of some hysteria.

Although a few things can cause Guillian Barre's right? Not JUST this vaccine? You said your brother got it from tetanus, but people get those everyday.

I just think people should know about it, and if they want it, it's apparently cheap right now!

I was responding to your comment "and if people were just safe in the first place they wouldn't get HPV."

and also as far as I know there is no test for HPV for men. So how would we know if we dont get break outs, or they are very small we dont even notice cause they may be microscopic lesions

you know I don't know if there is a test for male...that's a good question!!! :)



I agree with cammie (sorry - I thought I had quoted you too, but i don't see it!) about the right to choose.

I just think some people are not so informed...
 

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This vaccine has been licensed by the FDA and approved by CDC as safe and effective. It was studied in thousands of females (ages 9 through 26 years) around the world and its safety continues to be monitored by CDC and the FDA. Studies have found no serious side effects. The most common side effect is soreness in the arm (where the shot is given). There have recently been some reports of fainting in teens after they got the vaccine. For this reason, it is recommended that patients wait in their doctor’s office for 15 minutes after getting the vaccine.

The retail price of the vaccine is about $125 per dose ($375 for full series).

Will girls/women who have been vaccinated still need cervical cancer screening?

Yes, women will still need regular cervical cancer screening (Pap tests) because the vaccine will NOT protect against all HPV types that cause cervical cancer. Also, women who got the vaccine after becoming sexually active may not get the full benefit of the vaccine if they had already acquired HPV.


What does the vaccine not protect against?

The vaccine does not protect against all types of HPV— so it will not prevent all cases of cervical cancer. About 30% of cervical cancers will not be prevented by the vaccine, so it will be important for women to continue getting screened for cervical cancer (regular Pap tests). Also, the vaccine does not prevent other sexually transmitted infections (STIs). So it will still be important for sexually active persons to lower their risk for other STIs.





This vaccine targets the types of HPV that most commonly cause cervical cancer and genital warts. The vaccine is highly effective in preventing those types of HPV and related diseases in young women.
The vaccine is less effective in preventing HPV-related disease in young women who have already been exposed to one or more HPV types. That is because the vaccine does not treat existing HPV infections or the diseases they may cause. It can only prevent HPV before a person gets it.



Genital HPV is a common virus that is passed on through genital contact, most often during sex. Most sexually active people will get HPV at some time in their lives, though most will never even know it. It is most common in people in their late teens and early 20s.



There are about 40 types of HPV that can infect the genital areas of men and women. Most HPV types cause no symptoms and go away on their own. But some types can cause cervical cancer in women and other less common genital cancers— like cancers of the anus, vagina, and vulva (area around the opening of the vagina). Other types of HPV can cause warts in the genital areas of men and women, called genital warts. Genital warts are not a life-threatening disease. But they can cause emotional stress and their treatment can be very uncomfortable.


Every year, about 12,000 women are diagnosed with cervical cancer and almost 4,000 women die from this disease in the U.S.
About 1% of sexually active adults in the U.S. (or 1 million people) have visible genital warts at any point in time.


http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/STDFact-HPV-vaccine-young-women.htm#hpvvac4
 

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Genital warts and herpes aren't the same thing, either. ;)


Genital Warts
Also called: Condylomata acuminate, Venereal warts
Genital warts are a sexually transmitted disease (STD) caused by the human papillomavirus (HPV). The warts are soft, moist, pink or flesh-colored bumps. You can have one or many of these bumps. In women, the warts usually occur in or around the vagina, on the cervix or around the anus. In men, genital warts are less common but might occur on the tip of the penis.
You can get genital warts during oral, vaginal or anal sex with an infected partner. Correct usage of latex condoms greatly reduces, but does not completely eliminate, the risk of catching or spreading HPV.
The warts might disappear on their own. If not, your health care provider can treat or remove them. The virus stays in your body even after treatment, so warts can come back.


http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/genitalwarts.html


I am confused. :(
 

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Re: PSA for Americans interested in Gaurdasil...

so some one can have genital warts and it not be herpes?

Correct. Genital warts are caused by HPV, not herpes. Here's some info:

Do the symptoms COME and GO?
The herpes virus is only active on the skin for a short period of time before it retreats back inside the body, at which point the skin typically heals and returns to normal.
Depending on the individual, the symptoms of a genital herpes infection can last as long as six weeks, but

  • The typical duration of a genital outbreak is 3 to 14 days
  • The typical duration of a cold sore outbreak is 8 to 12 days.
If the infection persists for longer periods of time without relief it is possible that the cause is something other than herpes.

Does a blister or sore appear?
A herpes breakout will sometimes (but not always) develop into a cut, sore, blister or lesion.
Herpes symptoms are not always easy to identify because they can vary so much from person to person and do not always appear as expected. In fact, some people show little to no symptoms at all.
Real herpes symptoms can be overlooked or passed off as being something less significant, such as a pimple, bump, skin rash or ingrown hair. If you have ANY doubt please contact your Doctor for appropriate testing.
Commonly Confused Conditions
It is very easy to confuse other conditions with herpes. Here are a few ailments commonly mistaken as being herpes.
Canker sores (Aphthous ulcers)
Canker sores are not a form of herpes, however, they are often confused and mistaken as herpes.
Canker sores are not considered to be contagious. Cold sores and mouth herpes on the other hand are caused by the herpes simplex virus and can be very contagious.
Canker sores usually occur inside the mouth, are gray in color and have a distinct edge. The sores will usually heal within 10 to 14 days, without treatment.
In comparison, oral herpes sores (such as cold sores or fever blisters) are caused by the Herpes simplex virus and are usually relatively easy to identify.
To view pictures of cold sores and oral herpes visit our Herpes Pictures page.

Canker sores are ulcerations, especially of the lip or oral mucosa and can be caused by acute stress, trauma to the area in your mouth, allergies, or by a reaction to a particular bacteria.
Bacterial or yeast infections
Bacterial infections are sometimes confused with genital herpes, but do not usually produce blistering.

Some symptoms of a bacterial/yeast infection can include:


  • Vaginal discharge can be but is not always present
  • Burning, irritation and itching in the vaginal area
  • Painful urination and/or pain during intercourse
  • Thick, grayish-white discharge is common and
  • has the appearance of cottage cheese, although it can
  • vary from watery to thick in consistency.
If a yeast infection is present in a male, most often there are no symptoms. Some men have, however, reported a transient rash and burning of the penis after intercourse when condoms were not used. These possible symptoms are usually short lived.
More information about Yeast Infections:

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Impetigo
Impetigo is a highly infectious bacterial disease, more common among children often producing crusty blisters.
More information about Impetigo Infections:

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Syphilis
Syphilis is a type of bacterial infection which causes chancres, sometimes mistaken for blisters caused by genital herpes.
Unlike genital herpes, syphilis does not usually produce a cluster of blisters, and it usually responds well to antibiotics.

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Molluscum contagiosum (molluscum)
Molluscum contagiosum, like herpes, is a viral infection of the skin. Unlike herpes, molluscum produces lesions that are raised, with a central dimple.

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Genital Warts (HPV)
Genital Warts causes growths of skin-colored, cauliflower-like masses of various sizes and shapes.
Symptoms may occur several weeks and even months after being exposed to the Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) and include:

  • Itching or burning around the genitals
  • Painless growths in either sex, usually on damp or moist surfaces of the body
  • Growths typically begin as tiny, soft pink or red spots
  • Spots develop into small, white/yellow/gray bumpy warts on the genitals and/or anus
  • Warts can grow quickly into irregularly shaped cauliflower-like masses

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Herpes outbreaks can also be mistaken for:

  • Ingrown hair follicles
  • Pimples
  • Insect bites
  • Jock itch
  • Abrasions
  • Friction from intercourse
  • Razor burn
  • Yeast infections
  • Hemorrhoids
If you are experiencing any unusual irritation, or if you suspect that you have contracted a sexually transmitted infection PLEASE consult your doctor or other health care provider immediately.
Genital herpes should always be diagnosed professionally.
 

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but wait HPV I know doesn't mean herpes - it could mean warts on your hands, etc.

but warts on your genitals are not genital herpes? what's the difference between herpes ones and not herpes ones?

I thought ALL cold sores = herpes and ALL genital warts = herpes.


And they say herpes or the warts go away after short period of time. Does that mean that if you have herpes it goes away after a short time? Like chicken pox??

So confused...


btw - I read your post in entirety and I still don't understand :( I just want you to know I did read before I asked.
 

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genital warts are different then Genital herpes. they are similar but are not the same thing

Genital warts are caused by HPV


there are 2 types of Herpes Simplex Virus'
HSV I is cold sores

HSV II is genital herpes
 

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Once you have herpes you ALWAYS have herpes. Even though "cold sores" or fever blisters are a form of herpes (Herpes simplex type 1) they are not the same as genital herpes (Herpes simplex type 2)
You can transmit herpes simplex 1 to the genital area, but when people say they have herpes (genital herpes), they are typically referring to herpes simplex 2.

Genital warts are not the herpes virus nor are they caused by the herpes virus. They are two completely different viruses.

Does that help?
 

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genital warts are different then Genital herpes. they are similar but are not the same thing

Genital warts are caused by HPV


there are 2 types of Herpes Simplex Virus'
HSV I is cold sores

HSV II is genital herpes


where's your source Mr. Haus? I want to read on it!

And can HSV II also cause cervical cancer? what about HSV I?
 

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genital warts are different then Genital herpes. they are similar but are not the same thing

Genital warts are caused by HPV


there are 2 types of Herpes Simplex Virus'
HSV I is cold sores

HSV II is genital herpes

No fair, I was tending to the baby and my post took forever to type out... :D
 

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Once you have herpes you ALWAYS have herpes. Even though "cold sores" or fever blisters are a form of herpes (Herpes simplex type 1) they are not the same as genital herpes (Herpes simplex type 2)
You can transmit herpes simplex 1 to the genital area, but when people say they have herpes (genital herpes), they are typically referring to herpes simplex 2.

Genital warts are not the herpes virus nor are they caused by the herpes virus. They are two completely different viruses.

Does that help?


what's the difference between the regular warts and herpes? i mean how can you tell? do you have a link so I can read?

(I realize by now you people think I have it or that I think I have it, but I swear I am just curious!)
 

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but warts on your genitals are not genital herpes? what's the difference between herpes ones and not herpes ones?

Correct. Genital warts are more cauliflower type warts while herpes is more blister type lesions.

And they say herpes or the warts go away after short period of time. Does that mean that if you have herpes it goes away after a short time? Like chicken pox??

I'm not sure w/ genital warts but I know that herpes never goes away. The lesions may disappear but that's only when you're not in an "outbreak" state. Even then, though, you could still be contagious and spread it to someone else.
 

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where's your source Mr. Haus? I want to read on it!

And can HSV II also cause cervical cancer? what about HSV I?

No herpes does not cause cervical cancer.

Nov. 5, 2002 -- Genital herpes increases the risk of cervical cancer -- which kills thousands of women every year -- by acting as an "accomplice" to another common virus that commonly causes this cancer.

It's the HPV virus that causes cervical cancer. The herpes simplex type 2 virus just helps it along. But herpes won't do it alone.
 
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