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Minor Axis

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Keep on repeating the democrat mantra though Minor. It suits you.

Keep on repeating the conservative mantra Allen. It suits you. Plus you are supporting a completely dishonest political party. Now you can say that about the Dems. :)

Honestly I think this country is big trouble, not for the reasons you do, but still in trouble...

Yeesh. I sounded just like you about 3 yrs ago.

Don't let Allen bother you. Anyone who questions the pedestal, conservatives place the wealthy upon are envious of them in Allen's view. In a certain way we are envious in that it would be nice if the Republican Party worked as hard to give average people good deals. ;)
 
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Keep on repeating the conservative mantra Allen. It suits you. Plus you are supporting a completely dishonest political party. Now you can say that about the Dems. :)

Honestly I think this country is big trouble, not for the reasons you do, but still in trouble...



Don't let Allen bother you. Anyone who questions the pedestal, conservatives place the wealthy upon are envious of them in Allen's view. In a certain way we are envious in that it would be nice if the Republican Party worked as hard to give average people good deals. ;)
I used to staunchly defend that pedestal, just like Allen but I've read too much Thomas Jefferson writings to defend it any longer.
 

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I don't care what the lower 50% earn

They still should contribute SOMETHING .... how about a nickle or a dime at least? I would say a penny but it cost more to make them than they are worth.

You liberals are really something when you try to back the democrats

I am libertarian. I aint exactly happy with what the republicans say and do

Admit it.... you want the socialist nanny state

which has failed when ever tried

unless you prefer to move to North Korea or Cuba

Oh wait..... Cuba according to Michael Moreon has better health care so they are just spiffy :D
 

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I don't care what the lower 50% earn

Why? Is that your income bracket? I bet it is, and you believe some day you will reach the top 1%. Am I right? You are one of those working stiffs the billionaire class has convinced vote against your own economic interests aren't you? Do you think the monied classes will welcome you into their club?

One thing I can safely bet - You are not in the top 1%.

They still should contribute SOMETHING .... how about a nickle or a dime at least? I would say a penny but it cost more to make them than they are worth.

Have you ever examined the tax records? Or do you get your information from talk radio? I've already pointed out the fact that the lower 50% of income earners do indeed pay taxes and contruibute. Your parroting talk radio does not refute the facts.

You liberals are really something when you try to back the democrats

Who are these liberals you speak of? "You Liberals" is a strawman term used by those devoid of fact and logic in their arguments.

I am libertarian. I aint exactly happy with what the republicans say and do

Really? You sound like a talk radio talking point repeater to me.

Admit it.... you want the socialist nanny state which has failed when ever tried

Come on man, turn off the radio and learn to think for yourself.

unless you prefer to move to North Korea or Cuba

That's about as silly as me telling you to move to the most libertarian country on the planet: Somolia

Oh wait..... Cuba according to Michael Moreon has better health care so they are just spiffy :D

You've never travelled internationally or even bothered to learn about other economies have you? It's quite evident you acquired your economic education from the Boortz-Hannity-Limbaugh institute for conservobot thought.

Bring some facts and statistics with sources to support your arguments next time. Parroting right wing entertainment media won't cut it.
 

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I used to staunchly defend that pedestal, just like Allen but I've read too much Thomas Jefferson writings to defend it any longer.

I started out as a Republican in 1970 for 4 years and quit the Republican Party in disgust when Richard Nixon on the verge of impeachment, resigned from the Presidency of the United States. I became an Independent voter and have been one ever since. I spent 9 years in the U.S.Navy where I pretty regularly supported Ronald Reagan and Republican policies. Now things has changed since the 1970's. The Republican Party (GOP) is not today what is was in the 1960-70s. The GOPpers are about 400% more conservative, they practice hate and division, and a most ironic fact is that if Ronald Reagan was alive today, pushing the views he pushed in the 1980's he would be drummed out of the party as being too liberal. I voted for my last Republican in the early 1990s.

I believe in personal responsibility, I believe the government programs must be workable and affordable, but I also believe the economic and political system we live under should be a level playing field for all members of society, not rigged as the GOPpers are working hard to give the most benefit to the wealthy and screw the rest of us.

Our social programs must be reworked, but in striving for max profits, corporate leadership is acting in a treasonous manner by exporting MILLIONS of good paying jobs overseas. This reduces the tax base, concentrating it in the top stratum of society, requiring that the wealthy pay higher and higher tax rates, not lower tax rates. BUT THEY WANT THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT TO! The worst thing about this, the government, the only entity that can do something about it, is doing nothing to stop the process. The mantra "it's just business." is illustrated perfectly by the flesh trader in "Taken" (the Liam Neeson movie where his character's daughter is abducted and sold into slavery) tells his character "it was just business" like that makes it ok! This is cumulative and is destroying our economy to a point that there won't be much of a domestic market to sell their goods. But they won't care, because they will just move the product to the next up and coming country.

Overall there is a morality problem in the U.S. I can't say it extends around the world, but in this country the Middle Class is being destroyed in the name of higher profits. Not just profits, but MAX profits and the working class has been relegated to expendable status. Instead of thinking, lets build a strong corporation that benefits all of the participants, leaders are in the ego zone, rationalizing they are irreplaceable and deserve to be enriched at a rate 1000X greater than the average employee. It's as if the head is a glutton, but thinks the rest of the body can survive on starvation wages. It's not equitable.

Plus we just can't afford to police the world any more. We must get our own house in order, now. We espeically can't afford wars that suck billions of dollars out of this country EACH WEEK. Remember, the GOPpers are ok with this but try to spend a billion on a poor kid meal program... sorry we just can't afford it!! These guys are bastards and bad for the country. And as this thread discusses, they have talked an entire class of citizens into voting for policies that cut their own throats.

Now the Democrats are bad too, but I reserve this rant for another post. ;)

Bottom line, we exist as a society for the common good so the cumulative efforts of human beings can produce a greater good for society as a whole. It's not every man/woman for themselves (Libertarian?), it's not anarchy, (another form of liberty), and it's especially not a few in powerful individuals scurrying around in board rooms to ensure they live happily ever after while screwing the rest of us. This sort of thinking will destroy this country in the not so distant future. When enough people are disenfranchised by GREEDY BASTARDS, there will be a revolution.
 
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Ron Paul is a republican in name only. If you check out what he stands for and his background then he clearly is a libertarian

As to all this blather from Johnny in OKC

You remind me of some people I have seen elsewhere that love to shit stir by breaking down posts sentence by sentence.

Lets just say you are full of a lot of misconceptions and making assumptions.

Those are not very good traits.

And who ever provides you the talking points to you is lets just say full of the same old tired story line
 

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Ron Paul is a republican in name only. If you check out what he stands for and his background then he clearly is a libertarian

As to all this blather from Johnny in OKC

You remind me of some people I have seen elsewhere that love to shit stir by breaking down posts sentence by sentence.

Lets just say you are full of a lot of misconceptions and making assumptions.

Those are not very good traits.

And who ever provides you the talking points to you is lets just say full of the same old tired story line

EmoticonCoffeeSpit.gif That's all you got?

Dude, you need to turn off FOX and all the other conservobot entertainment media and
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Just admit you have no data to refute my points AA. Most talk radio parrots don't.
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The next time you decide to participate in one of my threads, at least make an attempt at preparation. I do enjoy a challenge, and you did not present one.
 

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LOL wealth envy...who on this forum or on planet earth doesn't envy wealth to some degree? We live in a capitalist society, we are born and raised to want everything with a side of a little more. Even the wealthiest people would probably envy a wealthier person. To bring up the poverty epidemic is not being anything but conscientious.
 

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If you are a part of the "Labor Class", and you are unless you have enough money in the bank to live off the interest, you need to watch this 9 minute video.

This speaks to some of the divisive issues used to cause us to fight amongst ourselves and vote against our own best interests. This video is set in Alabama, and speaks to the race divide in America as well as the religious divide that is hurting and shrinking the middle class:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX5v81_Xucw&feature=player_embedded#at=19
 

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John, when a guy runs on a platform such as Mr Tabors, how can he lose? lol

Mr. Tabor even knows who is to blame for everything! Ironic as well that his focus will be on jobs but he is sure to let you know that he is a good Christian.

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Published: July 03, 2011
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Nathan Tabor, chairman of the Republican Party of Forsyth County, said Saturday that he is planning a 2012 run for Congress in District 13, a seat now held by Democrat Brad Miller.

"I won't make a formal announcement until September, but I'm in. I'm running. I'm organizing," said Tabor, 37, a businessman who lives in Kernersville. "I am a Christian, a conservative and a Republican. I'm very strong on social issues, and my platform will be jobs, jobs, jobs."

Under new district boundaries proposed Friday by Republican state lawmakers, three districts now represented by Democrats — 11, 8, and 13 — would see increases in the numbers of registered GOP voters.

U.S. Rep. Brad Miller, 58, of Raleigh, serving his fifth term, was contacted for a response Saturday, and his staff referred to a statement that his office had released on Friday.

"We're many months away from knowing what districts will be in effect for the 2012 elections. Republican legislators will vote in lockstep for a couple of weeks, but the map must be approved under the Voting Rights Act, and then there will be very serious lawsuits challenging the map's legality," he said.

Tabor said Democrats are to blame for all the economic woes in the state.

Tabor said that if elected, he will focus on lowering taxes, decreasing regulation and cutting the nation's dependence on foreign oil.
 
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