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retro

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Minor Axis, Tim, et al
Obama and Democrats are good, Republicans are bad. Social Programs are good even when we can't afford them, tax cuts are bad. Taxing the "rich" is good.

Alien Allen, Accountable, Donny, retro, el al:
Obama and Democrats bad, Republicans bad. Social Programs that we can't afford are bad. Tax cuts in the right circumstances are good.

Kelvin:
I hate the USA and I can't chew gum in my own country.

Brits, Canadians, and Australians (and everyone else):
STFU ALREADY

Sound about right? :24:
 
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Obama and Democrats are good, Republicans are bad. Social Programs are good even when we can't afford them, tax cuts are bad. Taxing the "rich" is good.

Allow me to correct you: Social Programs are important but only good when constructed to be sustainable... Democrats are currently better then Republicans, although not all that good overall. (I used to be a Republican. Now I'm an Independent.)

Kelvin:
I hate the USA and I can't chew gum in my own country.
Lol! "But I love my oppressive country anyway."

Brits, Canadians, and Australians (and everyone else):
STFU ALREADY
Sound about right? :24:
As in Shut the Fu*k Up? Why do you say that? Some of those guys are pretty liberal and (gasp) socialistic! (For what ever reason, I can't get rid of this extra quote above. I've seen this before when breaking up a quote to reply.)
 
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Brits, Canadians, and Australians (and everyone else):
STFU ALREADY

Sound about right? :24:

Think that says more about the stereotypical USA attitude to the rest of the world than anything. Cant even say if you think I'm Liberal, Conservative or other.;)

By the way, I dont see Tim or in fact most people here as sheep to the Republican or Democrat cause (apart from Retro ) Most seem to have their own ideas which I either agree or disagree with. Ok, some seem more right or left than others but most seem to be able to make their own mind up about at least a couple of things.
 
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I'm definitely not a democrat, they are just as crooked as the republicans, but my views and beliefs are definitely liberal.
As far as Obama... I would vote for him again and I am very happy that he is president vs McCain/Palin. But I am not happy with his presidency at all. He is a corporatist continuing to give the country away while calling himself a democrat. He is not a liberal/socialist/communist/etc like the right paint him. He is up the ass of the corporations and continues to do their bidding.

Remember, I fully believe that everything, every issue we all fight about is nothing but smoke and mirrors. Issues designed to divide us while the country is being stolen out from under us by both parties. Again, having liberal views doesn't make me a democrat just as having conservative views makes you a republican. I think we are all pissed about the same things, we just view it differently because of the bullshit each side feeds us. We are meant to be distracted by that shiny coin over there while they lift our wallets.
 

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Interesting that Retro seems to value Kelvin's ideas so much he dosen't put them in "others":surrender

I figured he'd accuse me of discrimination and racism if I didn't... and Lord knows I don't want to be locked up in a Singaporean jail on some trumped up charge
 

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I figured he'd accuse me of discrimination and racism if I didn't... and Lord knows I don't want to be locked up in a Singaporean jail on some trumped up charge

Dont chew gum and you'll be fine......unless you're American or from a Western nation......oh shit......you're fucked.
 

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Satinbutterfly:
Both Democrats and Republicans are bad. Liberterians are awesome. Down with big government. Maximum freedom.

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When I see an AV like that, saying things like this ...........
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When I see Satin saying she thinks Welfare should be done away with, I can only think harcore rightwinger, hate to see what you lot consider that to be!!!:willy_nilly:
 

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That's more of a Libertarian viewpoint to be honest

Damn! Thats seen as extremely right wing over here, even most Conservatives want the Welfare state! I always saw Libertarians as pretty much the same as the Lib Dems, somewhere in the middle but pussies who jump on the side of whoever is winning.
 
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