Only In America!

[mazHur]

Guns and God: as American as apple pie!

Only in America
Reader Simon Hayward, a professor of Urolic Surgery at Vanderbilt University and the staff of Titan, the Ten-Legged Cat, sent this photo he took, which epitomizes the worst of the U.S. His note:

I pass this place every time we go to Wake, and it always reminds me that I’m in Tennessee. So on the way to Sarah’s graduation I noted which exit it was – just south of Bristol on 81. Nothing like an AK47 to reinforce the blessed savior’s message of peace! (The guy even has AK47 in his phone number as an added bonus)

Guns and God: as American as apple pie! (Click to enlarge.)

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/only-in-america-2/twogs-2/

 

[The Man]

It appears as if your link shows that the establishment believes in the lord...{this can go along with shooting responsibly}

But check this out below..This mosque below mixes worship and weapons for real ..this was not in the USA though

 

[Joe the meek]

I consider myself a good US citizen.

I served my county, I work hard, and although America has it's faults, it's still one of the best places to live to try and better yourself if you wish (both sets of my grandparents came to America and didn't have a pot to piss in, living in a coal mining "company" town (at that time).

I also have probably sold more of my own personal gun collection than a lot of people own (guns).

I also consider myself a dececnt Christian, who is still questioning my own faith.

That said, I for one don't believe that guns have ANYTHING to do with religion or a God.

I don't own guns due to my faith in God, but due to my lack of faith in men.

 

[mazHur]

It appears as if your link shows that the establishment believes in the lord...{this can go along with shooting responsibly}

But check this out below..This mosque below mixes worship and weapons for real ..this was not in the USA though

that is not a mosque at all..........
I never saw such thing in any mosque so far...
could be an arsenal beside a mosque or even a church or temple, who knows??

 

[mazHur]

I consider myself a good US citizen.

I served my county, I work hard, and although America has it's faults, it's still one of the best places to live to try and better yourself if you wish (both sets of my grandparents came to America and didn't have a pot to piss in, living in a coal mining "company" town (at that time).

I also have probably sold more of my own personal gun collection than a lot of people own (guns).

I also consider myself a dececnt Christian, who is still questioning my own faith.

That said, I for one don't believe that guns have ANYTHING to do with religion or a God.

I don't own guns due to my faith in God, but due to my lack of faith in men.

You ARE a true American. I like it.

Yes, guns have nothing to do with religion, they are cultural outfits.

 

[Joe the meek]

You ARE a true American. I like it.

Yes, guns have nothing to do with religion, they are cultural outfits.

The issue I have with your quote is I believe you're trying to paint all Americans in one broad stroke, just as some people paint all those who practice Islam as being terrorists.

The US has it's fair share of nut jobs just like any other country. One of our biggest issue is the fact everyone has more freedom to express their views, even if you don't agree with it.

 

[mazHur]

The issue I have with your quote is I believe you're trying to paint all Americans in one broad stroke, just as some people paint all those who practice Islam as being terrorists.

The US has it's fair share of nut jobs just like any other country. One of our biggest issue is the fact everyone has more freedom to express their views, even if you don't agree with it.

Oh, No ! I don't think all Americans are nuts ,,,I have American and Canadian friends,,just to name two,,and I found them most honorable..(except, sadly enough, two biased ones on this forum). I have no issue with Americans in general, but I do feel American foreign policy is not upto the mark. This is a general consensus in our part of the world and even your people have been pointing out and criticizing American foreign policy...

I agree with you in that American have more freedom to express their views but sometimes this freedom seems to offend others which is not fair. Like America other countries too have such freedom of expression but this leverage doesn't mean that one is scot free to play with the sentiments of others. For example there is life imprisonment for criticizing the Holocaust as it disturbs the Jews...
Similarly, Muslims are provoked into anger when cartoons of their holy Prophet are published or derogatory movies made to ridicule Muslims; or when cows are slaughtered by non Hindus for food.
This shows that even in secular countries there is some limit on freedom of expression and even if there is complete freedom of speech care ought to be taken that the sentiments of others are not played with..

 

[Joe the meek]

As far as American policy, what global power doesn't, for better or worse, look after their own interests, even if it's at the expense of others? I'm not defending the United States, just a fact that you have to deal with with every country. That said, if the Amercian public disagrees with what the current government is or isn't doing, they have the right to express themselves as they see fit.

As far as finding offense with others expressing their opinions and views, that's the bitch about freedom. You have the right to do as you wish, but the issue becomes what happens if what you do offends others?

I'm not sure to what country you're refering to per life imprisonment for criticizing the Holocaust? You're free to criticize the Holocaust in the US, but it would definately come across as bad taste and I highly doubt public opinion would support your view. That said, even though I reconize the fact that the modern day country of Israel was founded on terrorism and have expressed those views on other forums, people think that I'm anti Jewish, which I honestly believe is far from the case. I just happen to understand that people, no matter what religion, are capable of the same horrors that we tend to accuse our "enemies" of.

There is a quote I absolutely love from a fictional movie that to me, explains America at both it's best and worst…

"You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can't just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest."

 

[Alien Allen]

so we hurt your poor Muslim feelings

tough shit

your religions insane extremists deserve every bit of whatever is dished out

 

[Joe the meek]

your religions insane extremists deserve every bit of whatever is dished out

God, if only some of our own religious insane extremists got every bit of what they deserved.

"Tough shit" ???? Good one:thumbup:

That said, if I were a common man living in the sand box and I had my innocent family killed by American troops, I could see where our country could make enemies for life.

I personally gave our country more credit to learn from history than to be dragged into guerrilla warfare half a world away. Sun Tzu was a very smart man which is required reading in some military circles. If only our own politicians would read.

Even an idiot knows that when you use the military as a police force, it's going to be a loosing battle sooner or later.

 

[mazHur]

so we hurt your poor Muslim feelings

tough shit

your religions insane extremists deserve every bit of whatever is dished out

You may swing your umbrella as you want but beware it doesn't touch my nose!!

 

[mazHur]

Most of these interventions were explained to the American people as being necessary to combat communism (or more recently, terrorism), but an underlying motive was undoubtedly the desire of the ruling oligarchy to put in place governments and laws that would be favorable to the economic interests of the US and its allies. Also, the military-industrial complex needs justification for the incredibly bloated military budgets that drain desperately needed resources from social and environmental projects.

Do the people of Europe really want to participate in the madness of aggression against Russia? Of course not! What about European leaders? Why don't they follow the will of the people and free Europe from bondage to the United States? Have our leaders been bribed? Or have they been blackmailed through personal secrets, discovered by the long arm of NSA spying?

John Avery

 

[mazHur]

so we hurt your poor Muslim feelings

tough shit

your religions insane extremists deserve every bit of whatever is dished out

The tussle between the US and the extremists is political one....
Because the US is too powerful for them they have sought subterfuge under the banner of 'religion' to win sympathies of some of their brethren in religion
which clearly gives Muslims a right for self defense against oppressors, occupiers and drone hurlers!

The war on terror is counter productive in that when you kill one extremist some innocent civilians also get killed. The terrorists use this event as a source of winning more sypathisers for them and thus the vicious circle of their 'survival' goes on. It may be noted that killing innocents for any reason is a lame excuse and even the international conscience condemns it.

 

[Joe the meek]

Most of these interventions were explained to the American people as being necessary to combat communism (or more recently, terrorism), but an underlying motive was undoubtedly the desire of the ruling oligarchy to put in place governments and laws that would be favorable to the economic interests of the US and its allies. Also, the military-industrial complex needs justification for the incredibly bloated military budgets that drain desperately needed resources from social and environmental projects.

Do the people of Europe really want to participate in the madness of aggression against Russia? Of course not! What about European leaders? Why don't they follow the will of the people and free Europe from bondage to the United States? Have our leaders been bribed? Or have they been blackmailed through personal secrets, discovered by the long arm of NSA spying?

John Avery

The fact is, the US had to strike where the terrorist cells (OBL) were located (Afghanistan).

The US went to Iraq for oil.

The US is now a police force in Afghanistan due to stpuidity and arrogance (even if the US is there for 20 years, it's still a blink of an eye for as long as that country has been at war with something or another).

The NSA had nothing to do with Europe.

Europe has it's own interests, Libya being a prime example.

As far as people following the will of it's governments, the only countries that seem to have that down pat (having it's people follow it's lead) is those of Islamic extremists who wish to destroy the US. Then again, I have little doubt that if you're a citizen of a extremist Islamic state, if you don't agree with your government, you're probably going to end up in a private cell with some one on one time with some battery cables or at the end of a noose.

Want to know what's great about the USA? People of all faiths and religions can live together with the protection of the government (and I'll agree that it's easier said than done sometimes). That is also another bitch about seperation of church and state. Take all those people across the world and put them in the US, how many times do you think they're going to agree with each other LMAO

 

[darkcgi]

Have you ever heard the term "Craw Fishin" ?

 

[Joe the meek]

Not myself.

The bigger question is did you get a sex change?

 

[Stone]

You may swing your umbrella as you want but beware it doesn't touch my nose!!

Indeed....now you have a war in your backyard because of your nation's policy of state terrorism financially supporting the al Qaeda attack on the US ( 9/11 )

You forfeited your nose because of your nation's proclivity for terrorist diplomacy.


As AA posted, tough shit for you.

 

[darkcgi]

Not myself.

The bigger question is did you get a sex change?

No but yes the pic is me

 

[Joe the meek]

You're right, you never do know what people do when they're alone:cyclops:

 

[The Man]

Speaking in darkcgis defense ..I have never seem him push anything on anyone nor ask for acceptance from anyone.
As far as I am concerned he is just another person...I would drink a Beer with him without thinking twice.