Alien Allen
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It would help if people would post links to where the photos came from
Occupy Wall Street! Big Protest in New York
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Johnfromokc
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Keep your panties on...here:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/5000-protesting-police-march-through-sydney-20111122-1ns3m.html
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I gotta say here...they DO deserve a raise. I get more pay per hour than some cops.
Oh oh....wheres my Obama/Julia pic I saved.....brb
Oh oh....wheres my Obama/Julia pic I saved.....brb
Johnfromokc
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That does demonstrate the ignorance of the vast majority of anti-OWS types I've come in contact with so far.
The First Amendment is being stood on its head,” says Robert Reich, in a recent video produced by MoveOn.org. Critics of the Occupy Movement may view its nonviolent protests as rowdy and inconvenient, he argues, but the real public nuisance is the big money that has engulfed our democracy—and mass demonstrations are the only effective way for “real people” to be heard. This video is the third in this new series. Click here to watch the first episode and here to watch the second, and check back at TheNation.com each week for new episodes.
—Teresa Cotsirilos
[video]http://www.thenation.com/video/164739/video-we-need-occupy-our-democracy[/video]
—Teresa Cotsirilos
[video]http://www.thenation.com/video/164739/video-we-need-occupy-our-democracy[/video]
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The gushing Juliar did over the big O was cringeworthy. Like a little lost puppy she was
I know this has kind of dropped off the radar around here, and the last thing I want to do is light a fire under an issue that's finally dropped around here, but I just read this and found it interesting and relevant. And rather than start yet ANOTHER OWS thread (And LORD are there a lot of them. 
) I'll just post it here. Hopefully those of you who said the protests need to be in DC will finally see you're getting what you want.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/12/07/383779/30-big-corporations-taxes-lobbying/
) I'll just post it here. Hopefully those of you who said the protests need to be in DC will finally see you're getting what you want.http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/12/07/383779/30-big-corporations-taxes-lobbying/
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That's good, but they need to march on Congress as well. The lobbyists are breaking no laws ... probably
Johnfromokc
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Which two anti-OWS OTz members could this be?
[h=1]Open Letter from a Marine Tea Partier to All Occupiers[/h]Posted on 12/12/2011
First of all, I’m surprised you’re reading this. Thanks to the corrupt media, many of you might be clueless to the fact we share quite a bit of commonground.
Let me clarify: By “Tea Party,” I am in no way referring to the hijacked movement we know and love today. By “Tea Party,” I don’t mean Iran warmongers, bailout lovers, the “extreme right,” and people who think what happens in your bedroom affects them in any way. No, what I mean is the Tea Party as it started in 2007 as opposition to Bush policies.
The media loves to paint a picture of OWS vs. TP, “right” vs. “left,” etc. It’s an old tactic called divide and conquer. If we fight amongst ourselves, no one looks at the true criminals at work in society.
Of course, Fox loves to make corporations out to be our “capitalist saviors.” They’ll cover every corrupt government action they can find (if there’s a Democrat in the White House), but they won’t admit the greed of the mega banks and corporations. They rarely talk about the private Federal Reserve system and how it robs the lower and middle classes of their wealth via inflation. MSNBC is no better. They do point out how the corporations literally stole trillions of dollars from the American people through the bailouts and the Fed. However, for some reason they’re hard-pressed to admit these actions are carried out by government guns. CNN is STILL no better. In their effort to be “right down the middle” they don’t point out any of the criminals! Whether in the corporate world or the government.
And by the way, we do need to start calling actions like the bailouts what they are: Theft. The corporations, through their rental politicians, used government force to take from the people trillions of dollars. If we refuse to pay the taxes to pay this “debt” off we face risk of government guns carrying us off to jail. That is the very definition of theft.
This brings us back to the commonground we share. The original Tea Party (not counting the historical Boston Tea Party) was focused on ending the corporatist (fascist?) model ourselves. The original Tea Party was for ending the wars and against policing the world. We are against legislation that invades privacy of citizens here and abroad. Think unPatriot Act and the recently passed NDAA bill. The NDAA gives the military the authority to raid homes without warrants and imprison citizens indefinitely without trial.
If we actually want to change this country, we have to unite on issues like these and others. General Assemblies: invite Tea Party groups to participate. If you can find shared values organize joint protests. If you can find local Tea Parties that want to occupy with you, encourage it.
The system we live under is a corporatist model rapidly deteriorating into a fascist police state. The reason I added “Marine” to the heading of this letter was to (hopefully) attract active duty servicemembers, veterans, and law enforcement. We took an oath to the Constitution in order to join. The oath clearly gives us not only the option, but the responsibility to disobey ALL illegal orders. The police attacking peaceful protesters in the streets are in direct violation of that oath. If you are attacking peaceful people you are already on the wrong side of history.
Remember, focus on commonground. Just don’t look to government to be our saviors. Our politicians (yes, including our President) are bought and paid for by corporations and the mega banks. In fact, Obama’s biggest campaign donor is Goldman Sachs. His Treasury Secretary worked at Goldman Sachs himself. Why do you think some Europeans call us the United States of Goldman Sachs?
Semper Fi and Semper Occupare. Because nothing would terrify the establishment more than a united Occupy Tea Party movement.
- Cpl. Stephen Mark Allen, USMC
http://libertyspinnetwork.wordpress...r-from-a-marine-tea-partier-to-all-occupiers/
First of all, I’m surprised you’re reading this. Thanks to the corrupt media, many of you might be clueless to the fact we share quite a bit of commonground.
Let me clarify: By “Tea Party,” I am in no way referring to the hijacked movement we know and love today. By “Tea Party,” I don’t mean Iran warmongers, bailout lovers, the “extreme right,” and people who think what happens in your bedroom affects them in any way. No, what I mean is the Tea Party as it started in 2007 as opposition to Bush policies.
The media loves to paint a picture of OWS vs. TP, “right” vs. “left,” etc. It’s an old tactic called divide and conquer. If we fight amongst ourselves, no one looks at the true criminals at work in society.
Of course, Fox loves to make corporations out to be our “capitalist saviors.” They’ll cover every corrupt government action they can find (if there’s a Democrat in the White House), but they won’t admit the greed of the mega banks and corporations. They rarely talk about the private Federal Reserve system and how it robs the lower and middle classes of their wealth via inflation. MSNBC is no better. They do point out how the corporations literally stole trillions of dollars from the American people through the bailouts and the Fed. However, for some reason they’re hard-pressed to admit these actions are carried out by government guns. CNN is STILL no better. In their effort to be “right down the middle” they don’t point out any of the criminals! Whether in the corporate world or the government.
And by the way, we do need to start calling actions like the bailouts what they are: Theft. The corporations, through their rental politicians, used government force to take from the people trillions of dollars. If we refuse to pay the taxes to pay this “debt” off we face risk of government guns carrying us off to jail. That is the very definition of theft.
This brings us back to the commonground we share. The original Tea Party (not counting the historical Boston Tea Party) was focused on ending the corporatist (fascist?) model ourselves. The original Tea Party was for ending the wars and against policing the world. We are against legislation that invades privacy of citizens here and abroad. Think unPatriot Act and the recently passed NDAA bill. The NDAA gives the military the authority to raid homes without warrants and imprison citizens indefinitely without trial.
If we actually want to change this country, we have to unite on issues like these and others. General Assemblies: invite Tea Party groups to participate. If you can find shared values organize joint protests. If you can find local Tea Parties that want to occupy with you, encourage it.
The system we live under is a corporatist model rapidly deteriorating into a fascist police state. The reason I added “Marine” to the heading of this letter was to (hopefully) attract active duty servicemembers, veterans, and law enforcement. We took an oath to the Constitution in order to join. The oath clearly gives us not only the option, but the responsibility to disobey ALL illegal orders. The police attacking peaceful protesters in the streets are in direct violation of that oath. If you are attacking peaceful people you are already on the wrong side of history.
Remember, focus on commonground. Just don’t look to government to be our saviors. Our politicians (yes, including our President) are bought and paid for by corporations and the mega banks. In fact, Obama’s biggest campaign donor is Goldman Sachs. His Treasury Secretary worked at Goldman Sachs himself. Why do you think some Europeans call us the United States of Goldman Sachs?
Semper Fi and Semper Occupare. Because nothing would terrify the establishment more than a united Occupy Tea Party movement.
- Cpl. Stephen Mark Allen, USMC
http://libertyspinnetwork.wordpress...r-from-a-marine-tea-partier-to-all-occupiers/
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
sounds like the makings of a good libertarian
Accountable
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Either way, it's better than being a blind conservative.
Johnfromokc
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We've heard damned near all these top ten stupid comments right here.
http://www.opednews.com/populum/linkframe.php?linkid=143114 Occupy DC still standing
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