Obama hints at talks with Taleban

[flipx]

My mind is open Flip. I know it appears otherwise. But the Taliban consists of those who have the strictest interpretation of Sharia Law ever seen in the Muslim world. They have a hatred for the West. The only way working with moderates who no longer are Taliban will work is if they over throw the Taliban and rid the region of that evil which treats women like dog meat. If that is your end game then I am all for it. But if your thinking these moderates can convince the Taliban to ease up in their practices I see that as a non starter.

Cool cool, and nah I don't think it will convince the Taliban to ease up in their practices at all. Completely agree that it wouldn't, I understand exactly how these Taliban people think and their logic to life. There was just a documentary on here in the UK called, Dispatches: Pakistan's Taliban Generation. Click the link to read more on it, interesting watch even though it was pretty sickening and disturbing.

 

[Minor Axis]

Of course you do not get me. I have that effect on people :24:

I am not a blood thirsty neocon. I am all for having dialogue. My point is that there is no such thing as a moderate Taliban. Period. There could be moderate Mulsims but they are not in the Taliban. Because being moderate automatically excludes one from being a member.

You are probably right, just don't blindly criticize the Administration if they want to try diplomacy.

Now be honest with yourself. You would find fault if a republican had contacts and then bombed the shit out of them. You would say they did not talk long enough.

Each situation is different. However the Republican party's former hero, G.W.Bush did not bother to talk at all to Hussein before launching into a aggressive war based on lies. Maybe some moderate honest Republicans will come along in the future that I can have confidence in.

 

[Alien Allen]

You are probably right, just don't blindly criticize the Administration if they want to try diplomacy.



Each situation is different. However the Republican party's former hero, G.W.Bush did not bother to talk at all to Hussein before launching into a aggressive war based on lies. Maybe some moderate honest Republicans will come along in the future that I can have confidence in.

Geeze Minor you sound like we ran into Iraq with no warning. We had plenty of talks with Sadaam leading up to that. He thought we were bluffing it seems. Or he figured he could let all the troops fall back into the population and he would go into hiding hoping to stay hidden until chaos made the Iraqi people demand he come back and re take control.

 

[Strauss]

"Because being moderate automatically excludes one from being a member."

Where did you get that from? The Taliban isn't a club, that you can join and leave whenever you wish. That's how you are making it out to be, with this statement mainly. Here is a definition for "moderate" in political terms on Wikipedia:



Obviously there are other terms, and definitions for the word "moderate". So, my point is that there could, and obviously are moderate Taliban. Just like, as I said before, you can class people as being moderate Christians, and so on. It's the same principle.

I read, where did you get your viewpoints?

There are no moderate Taliban members even under that definition you posted(which has no application to what we are talking about but, hey, you posted it). There is only one view, there are no opposing viewpoints that would allow for a moderate position. The Taliban are just another form of dictatorship that allows no dissent. From their perspective its "either our way or stoned to death".

 

[flipx]

I read, where did you get your viewpoints?

There are no moderate Taliban members even under that definition you posted(which has no application to what we are talking about but, hey, you posted it). There is only one view, there are no opposing viewpoints that would allow for a moderate position. The Taliban are just another form of dictatorship that allows no dissent. From their perspective its "either our way or stoned to death".

Eh? What part of "Here is a definition for "moderate" in political terms on Wikipedia:", didn't you understand? The quote I posted was from Wikipedia. It was a general definition of 'moderate' in political, and religious terms. It makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Strauss]

Eh? What part of "Here is a definition for "moderate" in political terms on Wikipedia:", didn't you understand? The quote I posted was from Wikipedia. It was a general definition of 'moderate' in political, and religious terms. It makes perfect sense to me.

Well if it makes sense to you it must be right.

 

[flipx]

Well if it makes sense to you it must be right.

What doesn't make sense then? Meh, you asked where I got the quotes even though I stated in the quote where they were from...