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Obama hints at talks with Taleban


President Obama has suggested there could be talks with moderate elements of the Taleban in Afghanistan as part of a process of reconciliation.
Mr Obama told the New York Times that US forces in Iraq had persuaded some Islamic radicals alienated by the tactics of al-Qaeda to co-operate.
He said there might be similar opportunities in Afghanistan, although the situation there was more complex.
Asked if the US was winning in Afghanistan, Mr Obama replied: "No."
A month into his presidency, Mr Obama authorised the deployment of up to 17,000 extra US troops to Afghanistan.

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More than seven years after US-led forces ousted the Taleban regime in Afghanistan shortly after the 11 September 2001 attacks in America, the militants have regrouped and are waging an intensifying insurgency.
At an event on Sunday in Kabul to mark International Women's Day, Afghan President Hamid Karzai said it was "good news" that Mr Obama had backed talks with moderate elements of the Taleban.
"This is the Afghan government's long stand," he said. "We wanted this and we support and stand with them to bring peace and stability to this land."
Correspondents say the notion of reconciliation with the fundamentalist Islamic movement appears to be gathering momentum as a way of reining in the escalating violence in Afghanistan.
Mr Obama and his advisors are reviewing the US strategy on Afghanistan, and have looked at what has worked in Iraq.
"There may be some comparable opportunities in Afghanistan and in the Pakistani region," he told the New York Times on board Air Force One.
After discussing US success in reaching out to its enemies in Iraq, Mr Obama added: "The situation in Afghanistan is, if anything, more complex.


Pakistani opposition politician Imran Khan urges the US to talk to the Taleban

"You have a less governed region, a history of fierce independence among tribes.
"Those tribes are multiple and sometimes operate at cross purposes, and so figuring all that out is going to be much more of a challenge.
"I think we still have to think about how do we deal with that kind of scenario," he added.
Some foreign diplomats have also long advocated moves to reach out to the Taleban or at least moderate elements within the group, in search of a political settlement.
This weekend a former British special forces commander said the UK's effort in Afghanistan was "worthless".
"We hold tiny areas of ground in Helmand and we are kidding ourselves if we think our influence goes beyond 500 metres of our security bases," ex-SAS commander Maj Sebastian Morley told a newspaper.
'Irreconcilables'
Correspondents say coalition forces face three types of insurgent in Afghanistan:

  • fighters with links to al-Qaeda (deemed to be irreconcilable to the Kabul government)
  • nationalists, whose primary aim is to expel foreign forces
  • Afghans who joined the insurgency for personal reasons, such as abuse at the hands of the authorities
Security analysts believe the last two types of fighter could eventually be reconciled to the government.
 
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Makes no sense to me. They are the epitome of backwards neanderthal religious extremists who are against anything modern. I do not see how there is a moderate Taliban. That would go against their strict believings.
 

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Makes no sense to me. They are the epitome of backwards neanderthal religious extremists who are against anything modern. I do not see how there is a moderate Taliban. That would go against their strict believings.

Why not? Have you never heard of Christians and Catholics not going to church, or praying? I have.
I think this sounds like good news.
 

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Why not? Have you never heard of Christians and Catholics not going to church, or praying? I have.
I think this sounds like good news.

This is one of the most repressive groups around. I guess talking to them is not going to do any harm but I see it as a waste of time because they are not going to change their ways. You think they will agree to help rid the region of AQ? If not then what point is there to meet.

I came across an article where the writer states Obama is a narcissist. Not sure that is incorrect. He probably thinks he can make anybody do whatever he says is right.
 

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I came across an article where the writer states Obama is a narcissist. Not sure that is incorrect. He probably thinks he can make anybody do whatever he says is right.

I've never noticed Obama being excessive in self-love, or his ego at all, the writer just sounds biased, and like a pessimist. Who thinks they can make anybody do whatever they say is right? Whatever that means.
 

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Well talking has to be better than bombing the shit out of them for the last 6 years.

At least he's trying to do something positive
 

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do you think that talebans are the enemies of america ?

or;

what can talebans do for destroy the usa ?

i never believe that talebans are the enemies of usa.
 

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so the conversation will end something like

mohamed AK47........so we can continue killing women for wearing the wrong colour socks,we can hehead anyone we like for converting to christianity,and we're allowed to continue supplying the west with opium

obama......its a deal


some how i cant see it
 

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I think our new president...The Manchurian Candidate will be activated during those talks:ninja


Did anyone realize he spoke Indonesian before the footage of the phone call he made was released?:ninja
 

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Moderate AQ? This is some kind of joke. Talking with them I think will be a waste of time. They are not a nation, they are a terrorist group. Since when did the US negotiate with terrorists?

Maybe it's a ploy to bring them out of hiding so that they can say hello to MOAB:clap. I for some reason doubt it.

do you think that talebans are the enemies of america ?

or;

what can talebans do for destroy the usa ?

i never believe that talebans are the enemies of usa.

You shoud, because they think of you as an enemy and will stop at nothing to see you are dead and the rest of us.
 

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Makes no sense to me. They are the epitome of backwards neanderthal religious extremists who are against anything modern. I do not see how there is a moderate Taliban. That would go against their strict believings.

The U.S. saw fit to work with the Talaban in the past (Charlie Wilson's War). There is force and there is negotiation also known as diplomacy (something the Bush Admin had no interest in). There is no reason not to talk to them, althoug I'm not suggesting talks will work, but again why not?
 

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The U.S. saw fit to work with the Talaban in the past (Charlie Wilson's War). There is force and there is negotiation also known as diplomacy (something the Bush Admin had no interest in). There is no reason not to talk to them, althoug I'm not suggesting talks will work, but again why not?

I have zero confidence in Obama knowing how to deal with them. Sorry but I think they will chew him up like mince meat. Maybe Clinton would know how to deal with them but then she is not in charge.
 
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