Obama "handing out" money to schools over the next 2 years?

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Dana

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I was watching a "News Brief" on BET and the guy was saying Obama was going to be handing out money to K-12 schools over the next 2 years... Is this true? And is he going to exert his power over these schools?
 
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I think all these big time government hand outs need to cease and desist. It's the mafia on a government scale. Buying everyone and putting pressure on them when they don't like how things are going when they should have no say in such affairs.
 

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yes there is money going to schools.

the smart schools will treat it as if it was not there as far as the future is concerned. It is a band aid to cover what is horrible waste in schools.

and it will have strings attached.
 
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Things taught in school today are strictly for testing. We get taught something and then move on to the next topic. Basically forgetting what we were just "taught". Schools are fucked up
 

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Maybe if this was done years ago people today would be smart enough to know that the government already pumps billions into the public school system and this isn't anything new. The only thing that is new is the monetary increase and the accountability that will be added, which has been lacking under the "no child left behind" program.
 

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so boosting education is a waste of money?

We need to have more then money to create smart kids, we need to have programs and planned out ideas. Throwing money at things doesn't automatically fix them. Just look at the Somalian Pirates, they are a petty good example.
 

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We need to have more then money to create smart kids, we need to have programs and planned out ideas. Throwing money at things doesn't automatically fix them. Just look at the Somalian Pirates, they are a petty good example.

And who said there aren't any well thought out plans and programs that go along with this money?

Why is it that you guys only ever look at one side? You take articles and focus on one aspect of the story completely ignoring any facts that may go along with it. Who said that he was going to just take fists full of cash and throw it at the schools without trying to correct the problems???

:dunno
 

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This is his plan... does it sound like he's just throwing money at the problem?


  • Reform No Child Left Behind: Obama and Biden will reform NCLB, which starts by funding the law. Obama and Biden believe teachers should not be forced to spend the academic year preparing students to fill in bubbles on standardized tests. He will improve the assessments used to track student progress to measure readiness for college and the workplace and improve student learning in a timely, individualized manner. Obama and Biden will also improve NCLB's accountability system so that we are supporting schools that need improvement, rather than punishing them.
  • Support High-Quality Schools and Close Low-Performing Charter Schools: Barack Obama and Joe Biden will double funding for the Federal Charter School Program to support the creation of more successful charter schools. An Obama-Biden administration will provide this expanded charter school funding only to states that improve accountability for charter schools, allow for interventions in struggling charter schools and have a clear process for closing down chronically underperforming charter schools. An Obama-Biden administration will also prioritize supporting states that help the most successful charter schools to expand to serve more students.
  • Make Math and Science Education a National Priority: Obama and Biden will recruit math and science degree graduates to the teaching profession and will support efforts to help these teachers learn from professionals in the field. They will also work to ensure that all children have access to a strong science curriculum at all grade levels.
  • Address the Dropout Crisis: Obama and Biden will address the dropout crisis by passing his legislation to provide funding to school districts to invest in intervention strategies in middle school - strategies such as personal academic plans, teaching teams, parent involvement, mentoring, intensive reading and math instruction, and extended learning time.
  • Expand High-Quality Afterschool Opportunities: Obama and Biden will double funding for the main federal support for afterschool programs, the 21st Century Learning Centers program, to serve one million more children.
  • Support College Outreach Programs: Obama and Biden support outreach programs like GEAR UP, TRIO and Upward Bound to encourage more young people from low-income families to consider and prepare for college.
  • Support College Credit Initiatives: Barack Obama and Joe Biden will create a national "Make College A Reality" initiative that has a bold goal to increase students taking AP or college-level classes nationwide 50 percent by 2016, and will build on Obama's bipartisan proposal in the U.S. Senate to provide grants for students seeking college level credit at community colleges if their school does not provide those resources.
  • Support English Language Learners: Obama and Biden support transitional bilingual education and will help Limited English Proficient students get ahead by holding schools accountable for making sure these students complete school.
 

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And who said there aren't any well thought out plans and programs that go along with this money?

Why is it that you guys only ever look at one side? You take articles and focus on one aspect of the story completely ignoring any facts that may go along with it. Who said that he was going to just take fists full of cash and throw it at the schools without trying to correct the problems???

:dunno
It IS the govt you know that is doing this. History shows they are damn good at pissing away money.
 

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It IS the govt you know that is doing this. History shows they are damn good at pissing away money.

You're right, so I am VERY skeptical of this administration. I really want to believe that he will bring change to Washington while I understand that there is a 90% chance he won't... So I watch everything he is doing with close scrutiny and ask myself, "How would I have handled this?"
I like his start so far, but it's been less than 80 days so far.
Time will tell... I hope for all of us that he will do the right thing for the country.
 

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And who said there aren't any well thought out plans and programs that go along with this money?

Why is it that you guys only ever look at one side? You take articles and focus on one aspect of the story completely ignoring any facts that may go along with it. Who said that he was going to just take fists full of cash and throw it at the schools without trying to correct the problems???

:dunno

I'm not ignoring anything I only had a bit of information
 

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We need to have more then money to create smart kids, we need to have programs and planned out ideas. Throwing money at things doesn't automatically fix them. Just look at the Somalian Pirates, they are a petty good example.
money does not make kids smart. You can educate someone with zero dollars. The quality of teacher and how things are taught are the real problems.
 

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This is his plan... does it sound like he's just throwing money at the problem?


  • Reform No Child Left Behind: Obama and Biden will reform NCLB, which starts by funding the law. Obama and Biden believe teachers should not be forced to spend the academic year preparing students to fill in bubbles on standardized tests. He will improve the assessments used to track student progress to measure readiness for college and the workplace and improve student learning in a timely, individualized manner. Obama and Biden will also improve NCLB's accountability system so that we are supporting schools that need improvement, rather than punishing them.
  • Support High-Quality Schools and Close Low-Performing Charter Schools: Barack Obama and Joe Biden will double funding for the Federal Charter School Program to support the creation of more successful charter schools. An Obama-Biden administration will provide this expanded charter school funding only to states that improve accountability for charter schools, allow for interventions in struggling charter schools and have a clear process for closing down chronically underperforming charter schools. An Obama-Biden administration will also prioritize supporting states that help the most successful charter schools to expand to serve more students.
  • Make Math and Science Education a National Priority: Obama and Biden will recruit math and science degree graduates to the teaching profession and will support efforts to help these teachers learn from professionals in the field. They will also work to ensure that all children have access to a strong science curriculum at all grade levels.
  • Address the Dropout Crisis: Obama and Biden will address the dropout crisis by passing his legislation to provide funding to school districts to invest in intervention strategies in middle school - strategies such as personal academic plans, teaching teams, parent involvement, mentoring, intensive reading and math instruction, and extended learning time.
  • Expand High-Quality Afterschool Opportunities: Obama and Biden will double funding for the main federal support for afterschool programs, the 21st Century Learning Centers program, to serve one million more children.
  • Support College Outreach Programs: Obama and Biden support outreach programs like GEAR UP, TRIO and Upward Bound to encourage more young people from low-income families to consider and prepare for college.
  • Support College Credit Initiatives: Barack Obama and Joe Biden will create a national "Make College A Reality" initiative that has a bold goal to increase students taking AP or college-level classes nationwide 50 percent by 2016, and will build on Obama's bipartisan proposal in the U.S. Senate to provide grants for students seeking college level credit at community colleges if their school does not provide those resources.
  • Support English Language Learners: Obama and Biden support transitional bilingual education and will help Limited English Proficient students get ahead by holding schools accountable for making sure these students complete school.
I think you (and Obama) are ignoring one teenie minor detail: children's education is not the purview of the federal government. It's not their place to fund, dictate, or close anything so far as education goes. They need to take care of what the Constitution says they're supposed to take care of before they start micromanaging other people's jobs ... such as making personnel decisions for private corporations.
 

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I think you (and Obama) are ignoring one teenie minor detail: children's education is not the purview of the federal government. It's not their place to fund, dictate, or close anything so far as education goes. They need to take care of what the Constitution says they're supposed to take care of before they start micromanaging other people's jobs ... such as making personnel decisions for private corporations.
It is just not this. The state and local govt put strings on giving money. The damn money should never leave the local to begin with. The system is ass backward.
 

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I think you (and Obama) are ignoring one teenie minor detail: children's education is not the purview of the federal government. It's not their place to fund, dictate, or close anything so far as education goes. They need to take care of what the Constitution says they're supposed to take care of before they start micromanaging other people's jobs ... such as making personnel decisions for private corporations.

Really? You want to go down this road that the government has no business in public education... Have you done ANY research on the topic or are you just throwing out right wing talking points?

Please, take a few hours and look into how the founding fathers of this country felt about public education and the governments role in it.

In the Book Public Education in the United States, From Revolution to Reform , R. Freeman Butts discusses how, even before the founding of this nation, a universal government-funded and controlled educational system was the goal. Some of the colonies passed laws requiring the education of all children in a government-run and controlled public education system. Several of the New England colonies passed such laws in the mid to late 1600's.
From the very beginning a well-educated citizenry was thought to be essential to protect liberty and protect the general welfare.
Some of the first state constitutions had provisions requiring mass education of its citizens.
"The notion grew but slowly that 'education for liberty' might mean preparation to exercise and protect the basic freedoms of religion, press, assembly, trial by jury, security of person, due process and other guarantees of the Bill of Rights of 1791."
Jefferson, among many, saw the need from the beginning of having a universal school system, run by the government, free from religious, sectarian or private control, with an extensive elementary, secondary, capped by a university system operated by the government.

Because if you really want to debate whether the federal government should have its hand in public education, know that history will prove you wrong. As a matter of fact, it wasn't even an issue between the opposing parties of the time. This is something they all felt was important to the success of this country. Hell, I would be impressed if you could find ONE dissenting view of public funded education in colonial times... I'll wait while you look.
 
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