Obama: Al-Qaida Would Use Nuke if it Could

[Accountable]

How is his post arrogant?

 

[kelvin070]

How is his post arrogant?

Send that quote to Obama and ask him to repeat and his presidency is over in a split second.:24:

 

[mhtal3at]

Thats typical arrogant superpower behaviour. Here is a quote from one of the forum members Wyndex

On that note, we take more precautions now than before. If we wanted and needed, the middle east would not exist. We arent a super power because we dont have the weapons. We have them, we are in no place to use them, because out of the best interest for the rest of the world.
We are called tyrants, yet we havent even hinted towards a world takeover.

You did hint, and you want and need to sweep the Middle East. But you simply can't. It's not a matter of weapons, nor a one of interest, just that you never could and never will.

To sum up, simply, the US government are like a watch dog for Israel, Israel cannot just takeover the world, so they somehow convince the subconscious US government and people to support the idea of them being the good guys. So, US claimed that Iraq obtained Nuclear weapons, and then they occupied Iraq, and everything they ever wanted was their GAS.

Unfortunately, the American society is living some sort of a coma, they believe that their country is the greatest one ever, and that they have the power and right to kill others. Let me get it straight, you got your ass kicked in Vietnam, the same with Japan(all you could do is abuse the Mass Destruction weapons) and the case with Cuba was not very different.

Now, for the FATAL mistake you've done, you accuse every other nation of misusing the weapons they don't even have.

:clap:clap:clap:clap

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BTW, Happy birthday Wyndex ​

 

[Accountable]

Fatal?? Nice alternate reality you're living in, btw.

Never having agreed that we've ever had the right to kill others, I must ask who in your opinion is the greatest country ever. I personally would have to choose ancient Rome. Now, for the greatest nation in existence today, it's the USA hands down.

 

[mhtal3at]

Fatal?? Nice alternate reality you're living in, btw.

Never having agreed that we've ever had the right to kill others, I must ask who in your opinion is the greatest country ever. I personally would have to choose ancient Rome. Now, for the greatest nation in existence today, it's the USA hands down.

Excuse me if you don't think that killing people using 2 atomic bombs is fatal, what is fatal to you???probably an a country (other than you or other than someone u cannot accuse) acused of having nuclear weapons.
YEAH :sarcasm they really threaten your lives by their fake bombs


I come to the part of reality,
Probably alternate to the one you live in, but, it is the reality.

Being gr8 isn't what you think it is(BTW it's not ancient Rome, it's Ancient Egypt) for 2day I pick Japan, those guys are really gr8: good industry, conscious people,and they don't have plans to rule the world, cuz the idea of the USA being the "Greatest Country" cannot be, by any stretch of the imagination, even a suggestion.

 

[Zorak]

Excuse me if you don't think that killing people using 2 nuclear bombs is fatal, what is fatal to you???probably an a country (other than you or other than someone u cannot accuse) acused of having nuclear weapons.
YEAH :sarcasm they really threaten your lives by their fake bombs


I come to the part of reality,
Probably alternate to the one you live in, but, it is the reality.

Being gr8 isn't what you think it is(BTW it's not ancient Rome, it's Ancient Egypt) for 2day I pick Japan, those guys are really gr8: good industry, conscious people,and they don't have plans to rule the world, cuz the idea of the USA being the "Greatest Country" cannot be, by any stretch of the imagination, even a suggestion.

Rome > Egypt.

Oh. and Japan has committed far more absolutely disgusting acts of war crime in the last 100 years than the USA. Their economy is nowhere near as strong as the USA's. (They also all watch hentai and wierd shit like that)

USA is the greatest country in the world, if you ask me. From an economic and military standpoint - the rest of the world put together doesn't even come close. Yet it's still a society run on the principles of liberty and freedom. It may not be perfect, but if you think Japan is perfect you really are living in a dreamworld.

Do you sometimes not realise how sensationalist you're being? A country overthrows an evil dictator and installs an independent democracy and security force, at a cost of $700billion to the taxpayer back home. That's a far cry from this 'colonia'l superpower you're so worked up about.

 

[kelvin070]

Obama's concern for nuclear terrorism is unfounded. He took the rare opportunity to hoodwink leaders from 46 countries and garner support to attack Iran and N. Korea.

U.S. military plans against Iran being updated

Washington (CNN) -- The Pentagon and U.S. Central Command are updating military plans to strike Iran's nuclear sites, preparing up-to-date options for the president in the event he decides to take such action, an Obama administration official told CNN Sunday.
The effort has been underway for several weeks and comes as there is growing concern across the administration's national security team that the president needs fresh options ready for his approval if he were to decide on a military strike, according to the official who is familiar with the effort.
The official did not want to be identified because of the sensitive nature of the work being conducted.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/18/us.iran/index.html?hpt=T2

 

[Accountable]

When I asked the question "Fatal??" I was referring to your one and only use of the word:

Now, for the FATAL mistake you've done, you accuse every other nation of misusing the weapons they don't even have.

To which you responded:

Excuse me if you don't think that killing people using 2 nuclear bombs is fatal, what is fatal to you???probably an a country (other than you or other than someone u cannot accuse) acused [sic] of having nuclear weapons.

Accusing someone of something is not a fatal mistake, nor is accusing someone of something equivalent to using two nuclear bombs. Now, I figured at first that you meant politically fatal rather than literally fatal, but since you mentioned the nuclear bombs, perhaps I'm wrong. Can you clarify?

Oh, it's neither here nor there, but if you're referring to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, those were atomic bombs, not nuclear.

Being gr8 isn't what you think it is(BTW it's not ancient Rome, it's Ancient Egypt) for 2day I pick Japan, those guys are really gr8: good industry, conscious people,and they don't have plans to rule the world, cuz the idea of the USA being the "Greatest Country" cannot be, by any stretch of the imagination, even a suggestion.

First, "great" [note the spelling] is a subjective term, so it is exactly what I think it is, just as it is exactly what you think it is.
Second (filling a very small part of the apparent massive gaps in your knowledge of Japanese history), the US dropped two atomic (not nuclear) bombs on their cities precisely because Japan had plans to rule the world. The instant devastation awoke the Japanese people to the damage they themselves had been wreaking - albeit in a much slower fashion - throughout Asia for decades. I'm not trying to justify anyone's actions, simply stating facts.

Keeping that in mind, a cursory observation of the latter years of the Bush administration would show that at least some Americans were starting to realize the empirical bent the government is/was taking. If you're able to clear the blood from your eyes you might be able to distinguish people from government.

 

[kelvin070]

Proof? Oh wait, you never have that. How silly of me.

You asked for proof and I provided you with tons of proof and now you gone into hiding:24:

 

[mhtal3at]

When I asked the question "Fatal??" I was referring to your one and only use of the word:

To which you responded:Accusing someone of something is not a fatal mistake, nor is accusing someone of something equivalent to using two nuclear bombs. Now, I figured at first that you meant politically fatal rather than literally fatal, but since you mentioned the nuclear bombs, perhaps I'm wrong. Can you clarify?

Oh, it's neither here nor there, but if you're referring to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, those were atomic bombs, not nuclear.

First, "great" [note the spelling] is a subjective term, so it is exactly what I think it is, just as it is exactly what you think it is.
Second (filling a very small part of the apparent massive gaps in your knowledge of Japanese history), the US dropped two atomic (not nuclear) bombs on their cities precisely because Japan had plans to rule the world. The instant devastation awoke the Japanese people to the damage they themselves had been wreaking - albeit in a much slower fashion - throughout Asia for decades. I'm not trying to justify anyone's actions, simply stating facts.

Keeping that in mind, a cursory observation of the latter years of the Bush administration would show that at least some Americans were starting to realize the empirical bent the government is/was taking. If you're able to clear the blood from your eyes you might be able to distinguish people from government.

It doesn't really differ that much, they're both mass destruction weapons. Your tone implies that you are proud of using atomic bombs....


I never said that accusing others is fatal-since it's not the point here-but if you persist, you accused Iraq of having atomic bombs and you invaded it, killed children, raped women, and stole the gas.(That is fatal)


I come to the point, I actually meant to ask if you think that throwing atomic bombs is not fatal, It's a question that is answered by a no.


Plans..... Oh, you mean like the ones you have?
Oh, you know what, you've convinced me, a country that has plans to rule the world should be hit by two atomic bombs.
Well, you do have plans, so you deserve being thrown a bomb at...
LOL
Sure you'll say who I am to judge, or allege that US has no plans of ruling the world...
Ok, that still doesn't give Al Qaida the right to kill civilians. And use MASS DESTRUCTION weapons.






I know that being a country bad FOR A WHILE doesn't necessarily mean that the civilians agree with that(Other wise you'd find all religions and policies allow killing civilians)but you are bad since the day America was America, till the day you're defending her(which still doesn't allow killing civilians).





Now I really know what being an American means, it's to judge others and make mistakes. But if others do these mistakes you still judge and make mistakes, that's the spirit of the greatest country...
You are really making a good point here.

 

[mhtal3at]

Rome > Egypt.

Oh. and Japan has committed far more absolutely disgusting acts of war crime in the last 100 years than the USA. Their economy is nowhere near as strong as the USA's. (They also all watch hentai and wierd shit like that)

USA is the greatest country in the world, if you ask me. From an economic and military standpoint - the rest of the world put together doesn't even come close. Yet it's still a society run on the principles of liberty and freedom. It may not be perfect, but if you think Japan is perfect you really are living in a dreamworld.

Do you sometimes not realize how sensationalist you're being? A country overthrows an evil dictator and installs an independent democracy and security force, at a cost of $700billion to the taxpayer back home. That's a far cry from this 'colonia'l superpower you're so worked up about.

Rome was never stronger than Egypt, BTW, I've seen English books about Ancient Egypt and they do not tell the truth dear. If you wanna read History, read real history or False history, no third choice here.


You really like the way things go right not, Japan's actually doing pretty fine, whatever bad things they've done, they're a great country if you may. But when you come and compare it to USA you'll find that USA is not doing pretty fine when it comes to weaker neighbours(please don't mention sending troops to some country just justified by helping others whatsoever.)

I am not a sensationalist, It's not a crime to comment on posts that require argument, as for Japan you can replace it with Germany if that doesn't please you, I was just giving an example.


Trust me the economic situation in the USA is not pretty much stable, remember the circumstances when Obama took oath?

And the military stand point, USA showed no success in any of the country they tried to invade them, the troops always come back with tails between legs.

You should be happy that you'll never know know what I say unless you see the country I am mentioning from another point of view(talking 40000 miles). Would you please mention anything that really determines you and USA showed plenty of character?( I really don't see a war you've been into unless you act way from what honor really means(You either use Mass destruction weapons or show lack of noble traits: like rape or steal the Gas(the last two facts happened in Iraq) if you remember what happened in Cuba, or Vietnam, where your soldiers got lost and died either of hunger or eaten...:yuk

 

[kelvin070]

I like this part " the troops always come back with tails between legs":24:

 

[mhtal3at]

I like this part " the troops always come back with tails between legs":24:

I like it too, you seem to be a person who loves reality.

 

[Zorak]

Rome was never stronger than Egypt, BTW, I've seen English books about Ancient Egypt and they do not tell the truth dear. If you wanna read History, read real history or False history, no third choice here.

Oh, so the Aliens did make the pyramids then? :24::24:

You really like the way things go right not, Japan's actually doing pretty fine, whatever bad things they've done, they're a great country if you may. But when you come and compare it to USA you'll find that USA is not doing pretty fine when it comes to weaker neighbours(please don't mention sending troops to some country just justified by helping others whatsoever.)

I am not a sensationalist, It's not a crime to comment on posts that require argument, as for Japan you can replace it with Germany if that doesn't please you, I was just giving an example.

You need to brush up on your econmic knowledge. I challenge you to combine the GDP of both Germany and Japan, see how close it comes to the USA's GDP. Go on.
Btw, the purpose of examples is to clearly demonstrate your point by the way of reality. If you're example doesn't work, you're not quite grounded in reality.

And the military stand point, USA showed no success in any of the country they tried to invade them, the troops always come back with tails between legs.

It's you who need to brush up on your history. I can name 20 wars off the top of my head that the USA have won... Careful you don't trip over your own tail- I mean words.

You should be happy that you'll never know know what I say unless you see the country I am mentioning from another point of view(talking 40000 miles). Would you please mention anything that really determines you and USA showed plenty of character?( I really don't see a war you've been into unless you act way from what honor really means(You either use Mass destruction weapons or show lack of noble traits: like rape or steal the Gas(the last two facts happened in Iraq) if you remember what happened in Cuba, or Vietnam, where your soldiers got lost and died either of hunger or eaten...:yuk

Just to begin with, they're not my soldiers. I'm from England.

And again - I must remind you to stop being so sensationalist. Did you know that by invading Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein, the trade embargo of 12 years could be lifted. And Iraq's economy trebled overnight, and that money goes straight back into the country. You call that stealing?
Consider this also: Iraq's oil exports in 2005 were $24 billion approx.
Remember how much I said the USA had spent on the war and occupation in Iraq? Do the maths.

As to your other point : What happened in Cuba? :dunno
All I'm aware of that happened in Cuba was the Spanish American war*

*America won that one too btw. So no tails in legs there

I like it too, you seem to be a person who loves reality.

Now, this, is just too precious and funny for words.

 

[dt3]

the troops always come back with tails between legs.

The only thing that beats our troops into submission is a weak-willed populace that looks down on them as if it was their idea to go to a foreign land and risk their lives for the freedom of others, and a hypocritic government that is all too willing to start a war but lacks the political will to do whatever it takes to finish it. All of our wars since WWII have been intensely politicized and undermined by politicians and more recently the media at home.

 

[mhtal3at]

Oh, so the Aliens did make the pyramids then? :24::24:



You need to brush up on your econmic knowledge. I challenge you to combine the GDP of both Germany and Japan, see how close it comes to the USA's GDP. Go on.
Btw, the purpose of examples is to clearly demonstrate your point by the way of reality. If you're example doesn't work, you're not quite grounded in reality.



It's you who need to brush up on your history. I can name 20 wars off the top of my head that the USA have won... Careful you don't trip over your own tail- I mean words.



Just to begin with, they're not my soldiers. I'm from England.

And again - I must remind you to stop being so sensationalist. Did you know that by invading Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein, the trade embargo of 12 years could be lifted. And Iraq's economy trebled overnight, and that money goes straight back into the country. You call that stealing?
Consider this also: Iraq's oil exports in 2005 were $24 billion approx.
Remember how much I said the USA had spent on the war and occupation in Iraq? Do the maths.

As to your other point : What happened in Cuba? :dunno
All I'm aware of that happened in Cuba was the Spanish American war*

*America won that one too btw. So no tails in legs there




Now, this, is just too precious and funny for words.

You don't get the hang of it,you just want to get off point, I was just giving an example.








Do you still believe in Aliens? :24::24::24::24::24::24::24: BTW u knwo how to get off topicz, I mean off point.Well, after thinking yer only thieves of gas, yer thieves of history as well.
BTW, b4 I do the math, if you call this 4th grade math math:clap, I suggest you do the Physics and see if it's possible to lift rocks to build a Pyramid, if it is so hard for you to imagine man doing that, it'll be impossible for u to believe that man built the Empire State building. Which is why Egypt is great. And if you still see that Aliens did it to the poor Egypt, how come they didn't do it for the Great Rome, nor your USA.:willy_nilly::willy_nilly:





What GDP, man! all the so called "great countries" were the first ones to be affected by the World Economic Crisis, BTW, there is no way back from this, one may be living very well but plenty of others who can't find a good place to live in, so as usual u'll never know it. BTW, if you think you know much about economy, you should 've known that the Arab nations were the last guys to be affected by the world economic crisis, cuz of the Islamic Economic System they approach. I bet you never knew that, and never will.:sarcasm






Please, start mentioning them(ones that USA was really determined to be involved in and they acted honorificly)! I am waiting for you to either mention the 20 wars or get off the point.



So I see by invading Iraq you did a great job, how about the economic crisis in England, shall Al Qaida go and rob you of your resources and give you a sort of percentage(which will be 20x as you ever earned) and they can rape women and kill children since "They are doing the bad things for good reason" sue not, cuz they have dictates and they are human and humane and whatever happens they'll never do such thing, u know why? Cuz they much more important things 2 do. BTW, the money you mentioned is nothing compared to what they have been deprived of. In Iraq, honor and noble ethics are no subject of being compared to money.



BTW, yer doing a bang up job by praising the US Army, trust me, if US believes they can make the Middle East not exist, they'd, right now while we're arguing, sweep through it.

And please, if you have something else to say other than your sensationalism, shut up:eek!

 

[mhtal3at]

The only thing that beats our troops into submission is a weak-willed populace that looks down on them as if it was their idea to go to a foreign land and risk their lives for the freedom of others, and a hypocritic government that is all too willing to start a war but lacks the political will to do whatever it takes to finish it. All of our wars since WWII have been intensely politicized and undermined by politicians and more recently the media at home.

Well, after hearing that Aliens built the Pyramids, it's possible to believe what yer saying:humm:

 

[Zorak]

You don't get the hang of it,you just want to get off point, I was just giving an example.








Do you still believe in Aliens? :24::24::24::24::24::24::24: BTW u knwo how to get off topicz, I mean off point.Well, after thinking yer only thieves of gas, yer thieves of history as well.
BTW, b4 I do the math, if you call this 4th grade math math:clap, I suggest you do the Physics and see if it's possible to lift rocks to build a Pyramid, if it is so hard for you to imagine man doing that, it'll be impossible for u to believe that man built the Empire State building. Which is why Egypt is great. And if you still see that Aliens did it to the poor Egypt, how come they didn't do it for the Great Rome, nor your USA.:willy_nilly::willy_nilly:

In future, I see when talking to you I will have to use this smiley a lot... :sarcasm
For now, I will just end with this one.:urstupid:

What GDP, man! all the so called "great countries" were the first ones to be affected by the World Economic Crisis, BTW, there is no way back from this, one may be living very well but plenty of others who can't find a good place to live in, so as usual u'll never know it. BTW, if you think you know much about economy, you should 've known that the Arab nations were the last guys to be affected by the world economic crisis, cuz of the Islamic Economic System they approach. I bet you never knew that, and never will.:sarcasm

Global recessions start at the source. That's why. This is fucking simple stuff, even a child could get this. The recession started because of American banks lending out too much money. Everything after suffers from the trickle down effect...

So one more time, nice and slow. The recession started in America because.... IT STARTED IN AMERICA! :24:

Also, you're using the sarcasm smiley wrong. Do you even know what sarcasm is?
You're really smart!:sarcasm (i just used it right. For your benefit)

Please, start mentioning them(ones that USA was really determined to be involved in and they acted honorificly)! I am waiting for you to either mention the 20 wars or get off the point.

No, I'm wating for you to name all the wars where the USA has come running back with their tails between their legs, first actually.
We've got Vietnam - and apparantly Cuba (Yes, Cuba.... I guess after giving Cuba independence America tucked that tail in!)

So I see by invading Iraq you did a great job, how about the economic crisis in England, shall Al Qaida go and rob you of your resources and give you a sort of percentage(which will be 20x as you ever earned) and they can rape women and kill children since "They are doing the bad things for good reason" sue not, cuz they have dictates and they are human and humane and whatever happens they'll never do such thing, u know why? Cuz they much more important things 2 do. BTW, the money you mentioned is nothing compared to what they have been deprived of. In Iraq, honor and noble ethics are no subject of being compared to money.

Oh, yeah, lots of honour in subjugating Kurds.

BTW, yer doing a bang up job by praising the US Army, trust me, if US believes they can make the Middle East not exist, they'd, right now while we're arguing, sweep through it.

What the hell does that have to do with anything I've said?

And please, if you have something else to say other than your sensationalism, shut up:eek!

Did I teach you a new word? I'm not sure you quite know what it means lol.

 

[Accountable]

It doesn't really differ that much, they're both mass destruction weapons. Your tone implies that you are proud of using atomic bombs....


I never said that accusing others is fatal-since it's not the point here-but if you persist, you accused Iraq of having atomic bombs and you invaded it, killed children, raped women, and stole the gas.(That is fatal)


I come to the point, I actually meant to ask if you think that throwing atomic bombs is not fatal, It's a question that is answered by a no.


Plans..... Oh, you mean like the ones you have?
Oh, you know what, you've convinced me, a country that has plans to rule the world should be hit by two atomic bombs.
Well, you do have plans, so you deserve being thrown a bomb at...
LOL
Sure you'll say who I am to judge, or allege that US has no plans of ruling the world...
Ok, that still doesn't give Al Qaida the right to kill civilians. And use MASS DESTRUCTION weapons.






I know that being a country bad FOR A WHILE doesn't necessarily mean that the civilians agree with that(Other wise you'd find all religions and policies allow killing civilians)but you are bad since the day America was America, till the day you're defending her(which still doesn't allow killing civilians).





Now I really know what being an American means, it's to judge others and make mistakes. But if others do these mistakes you still judge and make mistakes, that's the spirit of the greatest country...
You are really making a good point here.

Your leaping inferences are tiresome. You seem to personalize an awful lot, laying all the blame of my country's ills at my feet. You have me at a disadvantage, though, not claiming a country of your own. That implies that you're ashamed of your home. I wonder why.

 

[kelvin070]

Rome > Egypt.

Oh. and Japan has committed far more absolutely disgusting acts of war crime in the last 100 years than the USA. Their economy is nowhere near as strong as the USA's. (They also all watch hentai and wierd shit like that)

USA is the greatest country in the world, if you ask me. From an economic and military standpoint - the rest of the world put together doesn't even come close. Yet it's still a society run on the principles of liberty and freedom. It may not be perfect, but if you think Japan is perfect you really are living in a dreamworld.

Do you sometimes not realise how sensationalist you're being? A country overthrows an evil dictator and installs an independent democracy and security force, at a cost of $700billion to the taxpayer back home. That's a far cry from this 'colonia'l superpower you're so worked up about.

What so great abt USA?
America, Let’s Face It: China Owns Us!:24::24::24:

The national debt has been making its way into the headlines a lot as of late. Much of this attention has been underscored by a grumbling, a recession-weary U.S. population forced to re-examine their spending habits even as the government maintains record federal deficits.
One of the latest news flashes to spark public concern is China’s continued dominance as the largest foreign holder of U.S. Treasury debt. According to the U.S. Treasury Department’s annual benchmark revisions, China’s holdings of U.S. Treasury securities stood at $894.8 billion at the end of December 2009, keeping it in its first place position followed by Japan which holds $768.8 billion.

http://www.mint.com/blog/trends/america-lets-face-it-china-owns-us/