Obama: Al-Qaida Would Use Nuke if it Could

[kelvin070]

They could only get them from Iran and N. Korea. Once Iraq and Afghanistan is settled the focus will shift to Iran and N. Korea.

(WASHINGTON) — If al-Qaida acquired nuclear weapons it "would have no compunction at using them," President Barack Obama said Sunday on the eve of a summit aimed at finding ways to secure the world's nuclear stockpile.
"The single biggest threat to U.S. security, both short-term, medium-term and long-term, would be the possibility of a terrorist organization obtaining a nuclear weapon," Obama said. "This is something that could change the security landscape in this country and around the world for years to come."


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1981137,00.html#ixzz0kppLyjpd

 

[Tuxx]

Welcome to planet Earth, you'll find our inhabitants to be very
civilized

bah
Not saying that we should, but since America and Russia and a few other guys seem to be on good terms, we could blow North Korea off the damn face of the planet if we really wanted to.

That sux. Curse religious extremists

 

[kelvin070]

Welcome to planet Earth, you'll find our inhabitants to be very
civilized

bah
Not saying that we should, but since America and Russia and a few other guys seem to be on good terms, we could blow North Korea off the damn face of the planet if we really wanted to.

That sux. Curse religious extremists

Yeah, just like you blew Vietnam off the damn face of the planet:sarcasm

 

[Accountable]

They could only get them from Iran and N. Korea. Once Iraq and Afghanistan is settled the focus will shift to Iran and N. Korea.

If it were Bush I'd agree with you, but I think Obama would like nothing better than to be able to concentrate fully on destroying America without any outside help or distractions.

eta: Of course, the military is a great jobs program. :humm:

 

[kelvin070]

If it were Bush I'd agree with you, but I think Obama would like nothing better than to be able to concentrate fully on destroying America without any outside help or distractions.

eta: Of course, the military is a great jobs program. :humm:

Lots of broken records in this forum.

 

[kelvin070]

Iran to take US to UN over 'threat'

Iran has said it will file a formal complaint with the UN against the US, citing what it calls President Barack Obama's threat to use "nuclear attack" against it.
Obama's implicit threat to use nuclear weapons against Iran was a "threat to global peace and security", Ramin Mehmanparast, a foreign ministry spokesman, was quoted by Iran's semiofficial Fars news agency as saying.
He said that members of the Iranian parliament had asked the government to take the issue to the US.
The US said on Tuesday it would use atomic weapons only in "extreme circumstances" and would not attack non-nuclear states, but singled out "outliers" Iran and North Korea as exceptions.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/04/201041118011606548.html

 

[kelvin070]

Obama's concern for nuclear terrorism is unfounded. He took the rare opportunity to hoodwink leaders from 46 countries and garner support to attack Iran and N. Korea.

 

[kelvin070]

If at all Al-Quida uses nukes then US has failed miserably in its war on terror. There is a much higher probablity of a nuclear accident than a nuclear terrorist attack like what happened in Chernobyl.
Iran Calls U.S. Nukes Tool of Terror

(TEHRAN, Iran) — Iran's supreme leader told a nuclear disarmament conference in Tehran on Saturday that the United States' atomic weapons are a tool of terror and intimidation.
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said America deceptively calls for non-proliferation while holding on to its own weapons and failing to confront Israel, which is widely believed to have nuclear bombs.


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1982863,00.html#ixzz0lQwh5nZX

 

[retro]

There is a much higher probablity of a nuclear accident than a nuclear terrorist attack

Proof? Oh wait, you never have that. How silly of me.

 

[kelvin070]

Proof? Oh wait, you never have that. How silly of me.

Despite claims that the U.S. nuclear stockpile is safe and reliable, the number of accidents involving America's atomic arsenal is a matter of concern. The Department of Defense (DoD) first published a list of nuclear weapon accidents in1968 which detailed 13 serious nuclear weapon accidents between 1950-1968. An updated and revised list released in 1980 catalogued 32 accidents between1950-1980. However, this second compilation failed to include some of the accidents covered in the 1968 list.

http://www.cdi.org/Issues/NukeAccidents/Accidents.htm

 

[Zorak]

http://www.cdi.org/Issues/NukeAccidents/Accidents.htm

These guys need to get their story straight.
It's nigh on impossible for a nuke to accidently trigger, yet these guys alude to it happening nearly 100 times...

However upon further investigation, most of the accidents they are talking about are atomic devices being destroyed by external accidents. I.e, accidental fire, plane crashes. etc.
Which offer very little danger, because of the way nuclear weapons are designed.

 

[kelvin070]

These guys need to get their story straight.
It's nigh on impossible for a nuke to accidently trigger, yet these guys alude to it happening nearly 100 times...

However upon further investigation, most of the accidents they are talking about are atomic devices being destroyed by external accidents. I.e, accidental fire, plane crashes. etc.
Which offer very little danger, because of the way nuclear weapons are designed.

Why confine yourself to USA. You think its highly impossible in Russia, Iran and N. Korea? (secretive N.Korea)

 

[Zorak]

Why confine yourself to USA. You think its highly impossible in Russia, Iran and N. Korea?

In Russia most certainly. I don't know anything about the nuclear technology of the other two. But even if it's 70 years out of date, it's still very difficult to accidently trigger a detonation.

 

[kelvin070]

25 Percent of U.S. Nuclear Power Plants Are Leaking Radioactive Chemicals

As far fetched as it sounds, the Associated Press recently reported that at least 27 of 104 nuclear reactors across the United States are leaking potentially dangerous levels of tritium into the groundwater around the plants.
The scope of the problem surfaced after the recent discovery of a leak at the Vermont Yankee nuclear plant. According to the AP, new tests have shown that the levels of tritium in the wells at the Vernon, Vermont site are more than three-and-a-half times the federal safety standard.
This comes hot on the heels of President Obama's interest in nuclear power, which included a call for "building a new generation of safe, clean nuclear power plants" in last week's State of the Union address, plus $54.5 billion earmarked for nuclear power projects.

 

[Accountable]

Why confine yourself to USA. You think its highly impossible in Russia, Iran and N. Korea? (secretive N.Korea)

Maybe because you specifically indicated US only and they were mistakenly participating in communication, rather than willy-nilly slagging.

 

[Zorak]

25 Percent of U.S. Nuclear Power Plants Are Leaking Radioactive Chemicals

That wasn't at all what we were discussing though.

 

[mhtal3at]

Yeah, just like you blew Vietnam off the damn face of the planet:sarcasm

That's the spirit.

 

[kelvin070]

Nuclear and Chemical Accidents
[QUOTEThough nuclear power is a good source of energy and is generally not a threat, there have been instances when security measures have failed. Nuclear meltdowns can cause dangerous radiation to escape into the surrounding environment.][/QUOTE]
1952 Dec. 12, Chalk River, nr. Ottawa, Canada: a partial meltdown of the reactor's uranium fuel core resulted after the accidental removal of four control rods. Although millions of gallons of radioactive water accumulated inside the reactor, there were no injuries.1953 Love Canal, nr. Niagara Falls, N.Y.: was destroyed by waste from chemical plants. By the 1990s, the town had been cleaned up enough for families to begin moving back to the area.1957 Oct. 7, Windscale Pile No. 1, north of Liverpool, England: fire in a graphite-cooled reactor spewed radiation over the countryside, contaminating a 200-square-mile area.South Ural Mountains: explosion of radioactive wastes at Soviet nuclear weapons factory 12 mi from city of Kyshtym forced the evacuation of over 10,000 people from a contaminated area. No casualties were reported by Soviet officials.1976 nr. Greifswald, East Germany: radioactive core of reactor in the Lubmin nuclear power plant nearly melted down due to the failure of safety systems during a fire.1979 March 28, Three Mile Island, nr. Harrisburg, Pa.: one of two reactors lost its coolant, which caused overheating and partial meltdown of its uranium core. Some radioactive water and gases were released. This was the worst accident in U.S. nuclear-reactor history.1984 Dec. 3, Bhopal, India: toxic gas, methyl isocyanate, seeped from Union Carbide insecticide plant, killing more than 2,000 and injuring about 150,000.1986 April 26, Chernobyl, nr. Kiev, Ukraine: explosion and fire in the graphite core of one of four reactors released radioactive material that spread over part of the Soviet Union, eastern Europe, Scandinavia, and later western Europe. 31 claimed dead. Total casualties are unknown. Worst such accident to date.1987 Sept. 18, Goiânia, Brazil: 244 people contaminated with cesium-137 from a cancer-therapy machine that had been sold as scrap. Four people died in worst radiation disaster in Western Hemisphere.1999 Sept. 30, Tokaimura, Japan: uncontrolled chain reaction in a uranium-processing nuclear fuel plant spewed high levels of radioactive gas into the air, killing two workers and seriously injuring one other.2004 Aug. 9, Mihama, Japan: nonradioactive steam leaked from a nuclear power plant, killing four workers and severely burning seven others.2007 July 17, Kashiwazaki, Japan: radiation leaks, burst pipes, and fires at a major nuclear power plant followed a 6.8 magnitude earthquake near Niigata. Japanese officials, frustrated at the plant operators' delay in reporting the damage, closed the plant a week later until its safety could be confirmed. Further investigation revealed that the plant had unknowingly been built directly on top of an active seismic fault.2008 February 7, Port Wentworth, Georgia: an explosion fueled by combustible sugar dust killed 13 people and injured several others at the Imperial Sugar plant near Savannah. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001457.html

 

[mhtal3at]

Welcome to planet Earth, you'll find our inhabitants to be very
civilized

bah
Not saying that we should, but since America and Russia and a few other guys seem to be on good terms, we could blow North Korea off the damn face of the planet if we really wanted to.

That sux. Curse religious extremists

That's not the way to deal with any possible threat.
Besides, No force in the damn world can discourage Al Qaida from reaching their aims, not Russia for sure, not N.Korea, and sure not the USA, you never could, and you never will.

Instead of dealing with problems using minds and thinking like a human being that has a brain, the US government always tends to use force, and act the same way Al Qaida acts, the only difference is that Al Qaida are called terrorists, and the other party is called the Pentagon.

Hope someone really understand what I really mean, and try to subside their preconceptions.




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[kelvin070]

That's not the way to deal with any possible threat.

Besides, No force in the damn world can discourage Al Qaida from reaching their aims, not Russia for sure, not N.Korea, and sure not the USA, you never could, and you never will.​

Instead of dealing with problems using minds and thinking like a human being that has a brain, the US government always tends to use force, and act the same way Al Qaida acts, the only difference is that Al Qaida are called terrorists, and the other party is called the Pentagon.​

Hope someone really understand what I really mean, and try to subside their preconceptions.​

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Thats typical arrogant superpower behaviour. Here is a quote from one of the forum members Wyndex

On that note, we take more precautions now than before. If we wanted and needed, the middle east would not exist. We arent a super power because we dont have the weapons. We have them, we are in no place to use them, because out of the best interest for the rest of the world.
We are called tyrants, yet we havent even hinted towards a world takeover.