No love or desire in Eden without the knowledge of good and evil.

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Minor Axis

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I have read it. My conclusion: You are wrong.

You said GIA was wrong and then you quoted scripture as your proof. Other than to Bible scholars, dueling scripture quotes removes most practical significance from the discussion for those not assimilated and seeking answers, especially if the original point is to validate or invalidate any truth to be found in the Bible. The entire premise of Adam and Eve is laughable from a literal basis. It teaches no lessons other than "obey God or else". A lesson that theists lap up enthusiastically. Other smart people will question the foolishness of this story. :)
 

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You said GIA was wrong and then you quoted scripture as your proof. Other than to Bible scholars, dueling scripture quotes removes most practical significance from the discussion for those not assimilated and seeking answers, especially if the original point is to validate or invalidate any truth to be found in the Bible. The entire premise of Adam and Eve is laughable from a literal basis. It teaches no lessons other than "obey God or else". A lesson that theists lap up enthusiastically. Other smart people will question the foolishness of this story. :)

The smart people can also show how they reached their conclusions. Can you?
 

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Even the catholic church have basically said that the Adam and Eve story is metaphorical, I find it hilarious when people try to defend it as truth
 

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Even the catholic church have basically said that the Adam and Eve story is metaphorical, I find it hilarious when people try to defend it as truth

Metaphorical or not it still is written down therefore it can be examined. No one is defending it as a true story, get your head out of your arse.
 

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Metaphorical or not it still is written down therefore it can be examined. No one is defending it as a true story, get your head out of your arse.

You're very rude, not very Christian of you
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I am interested in truth. I am still looking really. So far every way of thinking has flaws.

If you are truly looking for truth, why would you summarily dismiss that video that johnfromok posted. If you honestly want to seek the truth, you need to be willing to look at ALL sides and properly weigh the facts. You cannot just defend one source and dismiss the rest without careful consideration.
 

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If you are truly looking for truth, why would you summarily dismiss that video that johnfromok posted. If you honestly want to seek the truth, you need to be willing to look at ALL sides and properly weigh the facts. You cannot just defend one source and dismiss the rest without careful consideration.

That's the thing I did consider it. I had a feeling it was full of false info when I saw it included Krishna. I know enough about Hindu text to know that part was not true. When I looked further into it I saw that the rest was a misrepresentation also. If you haven't noticed John hasn't offered anything to counter what I claimed. That should tell you something.
 

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Well, I suppose us humans are all flawed really. None of us really know the truth and probably never will either!

Many people don't want to know the truth. Truth is available for anyone willling to take an honest look at what is known.
 
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