Mother Teresa died with faith conflictions.

[icecuban]

Well, I do believe that our essence, or soul could come "back to life" (if it even leaves), in order to do better and better until all you do and think is good things in this place. After that, who knows, who cares, all your doing is good and feeling good,lol.

As for thinking hell is silly, well, i do, i've said it before, terrible idea, how can man have a right to say such things out loud, or even to picture punishment, it is no ones right (unless you walk the path alone, which no one does). No one can say who should go and be punished, and who is to be there if there was such a place, because we all sin in some way, and thats the supposed "path" there. And even if I had to say that Hell existed, I'd say that no one goes there...

And not to get off topic,lol, but in terms of time and space, our organisms are spawned from ever larger and larger thigns, like the moon was from earth, which was from what the sun was apart of, so on and so forth back to singular type mass', and time and space are just one thing, expanding, one moment getting larger, which means we've always been around, time and space are just magnified over time to reveal what is already there, follow that?!,lol. Point to that was, a "person" has probably always been here, and in many different things, you know another of lifes go rounds,lol

 

[GraceAbounds]

Well, I do believe that our essence, or soul could come "back to life" (if it even leaves), in order to do better and better until all you do and think is good things in this place.

The Bible is clear in that we have only one life. What you are describing is a Buddhist belief.

As for thinking hell is silly, well, i do, i've said it before, terrible idea, how can man have a right to say such things out loud, or even to picture punishment, it is no ones right (unless you walk the path alone, which no one does). No one can say who should go and be punished, and who is to be there if there was such a place, because we all sin in some way, and thats the supposed "path" there.

I agree.

And even if I had to say that Hell existed, I'd say that no one goes there...

Again that is not what the Bible says.

And not to get off topic,lol, but in terms of time and space, our organisms are spawned from ever larger and larger thigns, like the moon was from earth, which was from what the sun was apart of, so on and so forth back to singular type mass', and time and space are just one thing, expanding, one moment getting larger, which means we've always been around, time and space are just magnified over time to reveal what is already there, follow that?!,lol. Point to that was, a "person" has probably always been here, and in many different things, you know another of lifes go rounds,lol

Again that is not what the Bible says. But then this is not as big of a deal since the Bible was not written to be a science book in the first place.

It seems to me like your belief system consists of a take on many religions and philosophies that are mixed together. I'm not putting you down, just trying to understand where you are coming from so that I can understand your posts better.

 

[groundpounder]

I said she is PROBABLY in it. Thats not a definite statement. Also, I do not have a "agenda". I'm simply pointing out something I find ironic.

PoTAYto, poTAHto. Make the statement and stand by it, or don't make it in the first place. Don't get called on the carpet and turn into a chickenshit punk. Crap. And that's not a definite statement. I'm simply pointing out that I find it ironic that you waver and not stand by what you say.

My disbelief in something doesn't ban me from commenting on the concept of it. Just like I could comment on the concepts of unicorns and never never land.

But it does because you have no credibility on the matter since you don't believe in it. Why would I give an audience to your thoughts as to whether you think Mother Theresa did or didn't believe in God at or near the end of her life when you profess not to believe in Him yourself?

Why would it matter to you that she either did or didn't? It shouldn't. :cool

 

[icecuban]

The Bible is clear in that we have only one life. What you are describing is a Buddhist belief.

I agree.

Again that is not what the Bible says.

Again that is not what the Bible says. But then this is not as big of a deal since the Bible was not written to be a science book in the first place.

It seems to me like your belief system consists of a take on many religions and philosophies that are mixed together. I'm not putting you down, just trying to understand where you are coming from so that I can understand your posts better.

lol, well, i do "blend" if thats what it is, but i like to think its a similarity. Yes, one life, like one moment in time, but time expands, as does life, where does it say exactly what "Life" is? And does it not say that jesus returns? sounds "buddihst to me,lol. I feel that "I" take many forms through Time's expanded moment, but I feel "I" (and everyone else) comes in many forms, always progressing, as Life does.
It is not what the bible says, but what the bible leads me to believe. There is no way the book could have packed all the words of knowledge in it, as it could not pack all of jesus' good deeds (end of john). I dont think its a bad idea, so its probably ok to think its true,lol. Doesnt truly contradict, or bring low, the big idea of Love

 

[All Else Failed]

PoTAYto, poTAHto. Make the statement and stand by it, or don't make it in the first place. Don't get called on the carpet and turn into a chickenshit punk. Crap. And that's not a definite statement. I'm simply pointing out that I find it ironic that you waver and not stand by what you say.



But it does because you have no credibility on the matter since you don't believe in it. Why would I give an audience to your thoughts as to whether you think Mother Theresa did or didn't believe in God at or near the end of her life when you profess not to believe in Him yourself?

Why would it matter to you that she either did or didn't? It shouldn't. :cool

No, it is not a matter of semantics. A definite and indefinite statement are two very different things. You can make such comments when looking at somehting subjectively. Plus, this name calling is making you look immature. If you payed attention to all of the threads I have ever made, I stick by what I said.

You don't have to believe in something to comment on it. How hard is that to understand? I've studied the bible in bible school for close to 7 years, I do know what I'm talking about for the most part on Christian theology, and as a former believer, I know what kind of mental processes believers have and go through with religion. I would say I have a fair share of credibility.




Lets say theres a guy named bob. Now, if bob does good for the rest of his life, and when he dies, he receives 1,000,000,000 ice cream cones served by topless female mermaids. Although, if bob does not have unfaltering faith, he is cast down into a eternal pit of Jell-O for the rest of eternity where only elevator music plays. BUT, bob can ONLY achieve the GOOD reward by claiming to have (and really believing he possesses) unfaltering faith in the deity that will make this happen if he is good, so he can get this reward. Although, in truth, bob doesn't have unfaltering faith and he knows in his heart this is all BS, but continues anyway since he has built a reputation of being one of the holiest people on earth and doesn't want to be seen as a hypocrite and a blasphemer.

In truth, bob has many doubts and even denies his deity exists, even when he dies. Now, we could SUBJECTIVELY look at this situation and make guesses on what happens to bob after he dies and the condition of his faith even though we both do not believe in this situation to be true. This is called subjective observation. Anyone can do it no matter what they believe to be true.

You should give audience to all opinions, no matter what they think or believe because different insight on a problem can only help.

 

[GraceAbounds]

You don't have to believe in something to comment on it. How hard is that to understand? I've studied the bible in bible school for close to 7 years, I do know what I'm talking about for the most part on Christian theology, and as a former believer, I know what kind of mental processes believers have and go through with religion. I would say I have a fair share of credibility.

Lets say theres a guy named bob. Now, if bob does good for the rest of his life, and when he dies, he receives 1,000,000,000 ice cream cones served by topless female mermaids. Although, if bob does not have unfaltering faith, he is cast down into a eternal pit of Jell-O for the rest of eternity where only elevator music plays. BUT, bob can ONLY achieve the GOOD reward by claiming to have (and really believing he possesses) unfaltering faith in the deity that will make this happen if he is good, so he can get this reward.

Please tell me this is not what you learned/they taught you in Bible school AEF. :eek

 

[All Else Failed]

Please tell me this is not what you learned/they taught you in Bible school AEF. :eek

Its silly, I know, but it just explains a situation where people who do not believe in somehting can comment on it.

 

[GraceAbounds]

Please AEF tell me this is not what they taught you though seriously. That is just scary, honestly.

 

[All Else Failed]

Please AEF tell me this is not what they taught you though seriously. That is just scary, honestly.

That actually has nothing to do with the bible, and no, they did not teach me that in bible school lol.

 

[GraceAbounds]

Whew!!!!!!! You about gave me a coronary. LOL!

 

[All Else Failed]

Don't die on me now!!!!!!

 

[GraceAbounds]

Hey, I'm not THAT old! hehe!