Morals, do you have them?

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mazHur

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Here is some wonderful material for you to help you learn ethics and morals!! Lend it to your toady, Man, too.

John Gray: “Humanity is a figment of the imagination”
If you cannot conceive of humanity from an area of knowledge outside science, what reason could there be for thinking that one and only one system of values is peculiarly human?

by John Gray Published 12 June, 2014 - 10:00


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Limits of reason: in William Blake's Newton, the great man shows his blindness to the natural world around him. Image: Bettman/Corbis
The Quest for a Moral Compass: a Global History of Ethics
Kenan Malik
Atlantic Books, 400pp, £25

Histories of morality are rarely written in order to inform the reader. When the Victorian rationalist W E H Lecky produced his immensely popular History of European Morals (1869), his goal was to infuse the book’s readers with a sense of the advancing power of human reason. Lecky’s was a story of improvement – the occasionally stumbling but unfailingly heroic advance of rational inquiry against the stultifying authority of custom and the determined opposition of religion. Anything that did not fit in with this edifying tale was mentioned only in passing as a minor detour in the onward march of humankind, or else was ignored.
 

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but it appears you are a supporter of libertarianism in heart?


Since you used a question mark, denoting a question.....the answer is definitely not.
You would have known that if you read my thread on libertarianism.

I doubt you even know what a Libertarian is.
You also didn't know what a neoconservative is.
 

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Here is some wonderful material for you to help you learn ethics and morals!! Lend it to your toady, Man, too.

John Gray: “Humanity is a figment of the imagination”
If you cannot conceive of humanity from an area of knowledge outside science, what reason could there be for thinking that one and only one system of values is peculiarly human?

by John Gray Published 12 June, 2014 - 10:00


MzF-sgEOZtDPfnUlxrZ397yhWWtKeK_9mIIsNyMGevuHSNV8cqgijL9BHtZqvlqPH08kGv18UsakDFUerJU09WyhNqC5f4-qwljRKujtPxlJnbAUuLwyxOzEC_mvXs1Hdc_L246xMEIXKP_6bD1AYpgdlCtKENrARzhula0HvsIZ2brFIQB8SopwbOfN89dd=s0-d-e1-ft

Limits of reason: in William Blake's Newton, the great man shows his blindness to the natural world around him. Image: Bettman/Corbis
The Quest for a Moral Compass: a Global History of Ethics
Kenan Malik
Atlantic Books, 400pp, £25

Histories of morality are rarely written in order to inform the reader. When the Victorian rationalist W E H Lecky produced his immensely popular History of European Morals (1869), his goal was to infuse the book’s readers with a sense of the advancing power of human reason. Lecky’s was a story of improvement – the occasionally stumbling but unfailingly heroic advance of rational inquiry against the stultifying authority of custom and the determined opposition of religion. Anything that did not fit in with this edifying tale was mentioned only in passing as a minor detour in the onward march of humankind, or else was ignored.



Did you read the articles you are referring to?


I doubt it :rolleyes:
 

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The greater question is does the culture of pk fall behind in morals.
Honor killing.
Baby eating.
Fucking the dead.
Child brides.
Incest.
Charging nine month old babies with conspiracy to commit murder.
Incest.
Death sentences for Christian's for drinking out of unmarked cups.
Govt forces providing the areas to perform honor killings.
Just to much to type.
Almost forgot to mention..state funded terrorism.
 

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BTW....John Gray is a book reviewer that quotes himself.

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2014/06/john-gray-humanity-figment-imaginatio

Once you have really given up monotheism, you have to say goodbye to the idea that human values can be universal or objective in the sense that rationalists such as Malik want to believe. You are left with the existing human animal, with its many different histories and perpetually warring moralities.

And this appeals to an Islamicist like you. mazHur?
That's an argument for secularism. For atheism.


And your lead comment in your post:
If you cannot conceive of humanity from an area of knowledge outside science, what reason could there be for thinking that one and only one system of values is peculiarly human?

Read what you post before you post it.
Comprehend what you post before you post it.

It will help you look less foolish.
 

mazHur

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BTW....John Gray is a book reviewer that quotes himself.

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2014/06/john-gray-humanity-figment-imaginatio



And this appeals to an Islamicist like you. mazHur?
That's an argument for secularism. For atheism.


And your lead comment in your post:


Read what you post before you post it.
Comprehend what you post before you post it.

It will help you look less foolish.

Why are you averse to listening to your own people??
Why do you think you are 'superior' than them>|?
Needless to say you are a 'shallow man'!!
 

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Morality is a matter of money. Poor people cannot afford to have morals. So they have religion..
Khushwant Singh
 

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Why are you averse to listening to your own people??
Why do you think you are 'superior' than them>|?
Needless to say you are a 'shallow man'!!


I suggest you take that criticism seriously and constructively, mazHur.
You do look like a fool when you post contradictory concepts ...and you do it often.
 

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Morality is a matter of money. Poor people cannot afford to have morals. So they have religion..
Khushwant Singh

Ah....the wisdom of an Islamicist that uses atheism in his supporting arguments.
I suspect you'll claim ethics don't exist either because poor people can't afford them?


I told you before, your sophistry sucks.
 

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Ah....the wisdom of an Islamicist that uses atheism in his supporting arguments.
I suspect you'll claim ethics don't exist either because poor people can't afford them?


I told you before, your sophistry sucks.


Fool, Singh is NOT a Muslim.
 

mazHur

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Ah....the wisdom of an Islamicist that uses atheism in his supporting arguments.
I suspect you'll claim ethics don't exist either because poor people can't afford them?


I told you before, your sophistry sucks.

As I told you Singh is not a Muslim.
Moreover, ever heard the old saying? A hungry man know no manners .....and yet you overfed pig talk of morals and ethics??
 

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As I told you Singh is not a Muslim.
Moreover, ever heard the old saying? A hungry man know no manners .....and yet you overfed pig talk of morals and ethics??


I never said Singh was a Muslim.


Moreover, ever heard the old saying? A hungry man know no manners .....and yet you overfed pig talk of morals and ethics?
Said the Mad Man from Karachi that rationalizes his endorsement of terrorism.
 

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He was addressing you maz..Not Singh

Indeed. Singh is an atheist........




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khushwant_Singh
Singh was best known for his trenchant secularism
Singh was a self-proclaimed agnostic, as the title of his 2011 book Agnostic Khushwant: There is no God explicitly revealed. He was particularly against organised religion. He was evidently inclined towards atheism, as he said, "One can be a saintly person without believing in God and a detestable villain believing in him. In my personalised religion, There Is No God!

mazHur....see how the context makes sense:
Ah....the wisdom of an Islamicist(edit: mazHur) that uses atheism(writings of a dead atheist) in his supporting arguments.

mazHur...you are an idiot :D
 
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