Memory:

[IntruderLS1]

With our cancerous media it is easy to forget who we are as a nation. There are still more Americans in this country than the distorted view we get from watching the tube however.

We have much to be proud of, and little to be ashamed for. Our greatest national tragedy would be to forget where we've come from and how we got here.

These people remember still:
http://blip.tv/play/AYGJ5h6YgmE


Edit:> I just realized the reason for the display might not be apparent...
Killed in action the week before, the body of Sergeant First Class John C. Beale was returned to Falcon Field in Peachtree City, Georgia, just south of Atlanta, on June 11, 2009.

The Henry County Police Department escorted the procession to the funeral home in McDonough, Georgia. A simple notice in local papers indicated the road route to be taken and the approximate time.

 

[Ryder]

Thats sad.

Listen to this. We listened to this in American History when I was in 8th grade.

YouTube - Born Again American

 

[Guyzerr]

We have much to be proud of, and little to be ashamed for. Our greatest national tragedy would be to forget where we've come from and how we got here.

I have to hand it to Americans. Regardless of the fog that shrouds your nation you remain the most patriotic group of citizens on the planet.

 

[Minor Axis]

With our cancerous media it is easy to forget who we are as a nation. There are still more Americans in this country than the distorted view we get from watching the tube however.

We have much to be proud of, and little to be ashamed for. Our greatest national tragedy would be to forget where we've come from and how we got here.

With all due respect, soldiers dyeing in action are always a tragedy especially when they are sent to a foreign land to serve an agenda which has nothing to do to with protecting this country. If you want to talk about National leadership, there is a hell of a lot to be ashamed of. We as a country need to balance our patriotic views with some semblance of realism. To our detriment, excessive patriotism can become a fog that obscures everything else.

 

[Peter Parka]

We have much to be proud of, and little to be ashamed for. Our greatest national tragedy would be to forget where we've come from and how we got here.

You're right. You came from a bunch of religious nuts and you got where you are by taking over a country and treating the natives like shit. God bless America and all that. :ninja

 

[dt3]

You're right. You came from a bunch of religious nuts and you got where you are by taking over a country and treating the natives like shit. God bless America and all that. :ninja

And the history of the British Empire isn't one of brutal takeovers

 

[Lord Stanley]

And the history of the British Empire isn't one of brutal takeovers

without brutality there would no empire

 

[Peter Parka]

And the history of the British Empire isn't one of brutal takeovers

I'm not proud of that though.

 

[dt3]

I'm not proud of that though.

Has any American ever posted that they're proud of the way we treated Native Americans :confused

 

[Peter Parka]

We have much to be proud of, and little to be ashamed for. Our greatest national tragedy would be to forget where we've come from and how we got here.

Maybe I'm just reading this wrong? :unsure::dunno

 

[dt3]

Maybe I'm just reading this wrong? :unsure::dunno

I think you are, but I also know I'm not gonna change your mind

So fuck the injuns :eek

 

[Guyzerr]

So fuck the injuns :eek

I gots me a pile of injun blood in me. Enough to get a treaty card and skip the tax bullshit. :24: Can you get one of those free passes if you want.

With reference to fuckin' me it ain't gunna happen. You a white man. :yuk

 

[dt3]

I gots me a pile of injun blood in me. Enough to get a treaty card and skip the tax bullshit. :24: Can you get one of those free passes if you want.

With reference to fuckin' me it ain't gunna happen. You a white man. :yuk

:24: :24: :24: I'm about an eighth Cherokee :dunno

 

[Guyzerr]

:24: :24: :24: I'm about an eighth Cherokee :dunno

So you got a 1" dick then.

 

[IntruderLS1]

You're right. You came from a bunch of religious nuts and you got where you are by taking over a country and treating the natives like shit. God bless America and all that. :ninja

A lot of the problems America gets a black eye for are European in root.

Remember, that there was no such thing as a United States before 1776 in name, and realistically, not until 1815 at the end of the War of 1812 were we (the U.S.) genuinely on our own. From 1782 to 1812, we were still struggling with the realities of self rule.

I don’t wear rose colored glasses when it comes to the reality of Native Americans. They were invaded by a vastly technologically and socially superior (more organized) group of colonial European powers. It was European thinking that the Indians were a group of savage, uneducated, in need of parenting peoples, not American.

Issues like slavery and Indian affairs were a source of incredible political infighting in the new United States. Some wanted to maintain the European ways of doing business because it was comfortable and easy, but most wanted to complete our transition to a new kind of country.

We as a nation ended these practices at tremendous costs in lives and treasure in a very short amount of time. Within 50 years, we would fight a civil war over it, and put it behind us permanently. That is a major amount of action for the force of good and an immeasurable sacrifice to do what is right from a nation that was still in its infancy.

What timeframe would you be proud of for this amount of action? Sure everybody likes instant gratification, but realistically it was done as fast as humanly possible, and much faster than was ever imagined possible.

 

[Peter Parka]

Good stuff then. I still think it's appalling that you continue torture into the 21st century.

 

[Minor Axis]

Based on the last couple of posts, abusing the "natives" was the world wide standard of technological advanced societies and how they dealt with indigenousness societies through at least the 1800's. The people who are now Americans did not corner the market in this behavior.

However, today there is no excuse for torture as a "standard".

 

[IntruderLS1]

lol...

 

[Accountable]

Good stuff then. I still think it's appalling that you continue torture into the 21st century.

We don't, we just soften definitions. We still have rampant poverty into the 21st century too, but we count people with homes, regular meals, and cable TV among the poor.

 

[Tim]

We just soften definitions???

You really believe this crap, don't you? You can define it anyway you like but it's still torture.