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An excess of women in a society is proof of the esteem in which they are held?

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The U.S. has problems, big problems, no surprises there, probably very similar to just about every other country on this planet. Be willing to talk about Pakistan and Muslim prejudices in Pakistan and you'll get farther. This is not a who is worst contest.

But regarding women, they have a much better shot in this country to excel than they do in your country. If they go before a court, they can expect fair and equal representation regardless of their religion as compared to your country. They can walk down the street with their heads held high and not have to hide in the shadows nor be fearful of offending a man. This is pretty much established. No, I'm not going to prove it to you. :p

Ed, good question. the OP has taken that line out of context and given it a twist.

if women were killed in my country how come their percentage exceed men???

Be a big boy and admit when you are wrong. I took nothing out of context.
 
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Read the article written by a sensible American writer below reflecting on how woman are held in ''esteem'' in the US.
For women in America, equality is still an illusion


By Jessica Valenti
Sunday, February 21, 2010

Every day, we hear about the horrors women endure in other countries: rape in Darfur, genital mutilation in Egypt, sex trafficking in Eastern Europe. We shake our heads, forward e-mails and send money.


There is so much more work to be done. The truth is, most women don't have the privilege of being able to look at gender justice from a distance; they have no choice but to live it every day. Those of us who are lucky enough not to have to think about sexism, racism, poverty and homophobia on a daily basis -- those of us who have the privilege of sending money to an international cause via e-mail while ignoring the plight of women here at home -- have a responsibility to open our eyes to the misogyny right in front of us. And then to stop it.




People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at others!!

Want more evidence??

We're not talking about genital mutilation in Egypt (though, seeing as how it's a Muslim dominated country, it is relevant in this discussion), but sex trafficking in Eastern Europe is completely irrelevant.

That quote you just used? You should take that to heart, because all you're doing is throwing stones from what's left of your glass house. The rest of it has already been shattered by our own well-thrown stones.
 
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maz you are aware that it is against copyright laws to quote articles without links?

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/

Give facts in your own words before OTz gets tracked down by the hunters who look for exactly what you're doing.

ha, what a belated idea you got at!!
I have NOT quoted the entire article, just a passage from it alongwith the link!
Just please do not get flustered at the posted truth by your own fellow woman nor try to be grouchy!!:)
 

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ha, what a belated idea you got at!!
I have NOT quoted the entire article, just a passage from it alongwith the link!
Just please do not get flustered at the posted truth by your own fellow woman nor try to be grouchy!!:)

You post tons of full articles... so her point still stands.
 

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ha, what a belated idea you got at!!
I have NOT quoted the entire article, just a passage from it alongwith the link!
Just please do not get flustered at the posted truth by your own fellow woman nor try to be grouchy!!:)
You quoted a partial article without a link. That is against US copyright laws. But hey that's on you.
 

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The U.S. has problems, big problems, no surprises there, probably very similar to just about every other country on this planet. Be willing to talk about Pakistan and Muslim prejudices in Pakistan and you'll get farther. This is not a who is worst contest.

But regarding women, they have a much better shot in this country to excel than they do in your country. If they go before a court, they can expect fair and equal representation regardless of their religion as compared to your country. They can walk down the street with their heads held high and not have to hide in the shadows nor be fearful of offending a man. This is pretty much established. No, I'm not going to prove it to you. :p



Be a big boy and admit when you are wrong. I took nothing out of context.


Just stop lying and acting like a hate-mongering troll....

I stand by my words ...

You needn't compare your women with ours....there is no sense in that because both belong to a different culture. Grow up!


If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?

William Shakespeare
 

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It is totally against copyright laws to post entire articles even with a link which are guilty of.


Only you are trying to side track the issue....
I know about copy right and don't need your guidance...just stay on the topic!
 

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You needn't compare your women with ours....there is no sense in that because both belong to a different culture. Grow up!

So you're admitting, that because of your culture and religion, that women in your country do not have the same rights as women in western nations? Thank God you've finally admitted it so we can get on with our lives.
 

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Only you are trying to side track the issue....
I know about copy right and don't need your guidance...just stay on the topic!
I am not giving you guidance. I am stating a fact. You are going to get OTz into trouble if you continue to break US copyright laws.
 

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You quoted a partial article without a link. That is against US copyright laws. But hey that's on you.


the link is already there below the main article....need a microscope to see it??:)

Where a link is not available and the article comes in an email it it so stated with due credit to its author.
That's fair enough....

now let's keep to the issue

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I am not giving you guidance. I am stating a fact. You are going to get OTz into trouble if you continue to break US copyright laws.


I HAVEN'T VIOLATED ANY COPY RIGHT!
What's the motive behind this idea coming to your mind NOW and not earlier???:p

'' Do not be more loyal than the King??''
an old proverb
 

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maz what's wrong you don't know how to summarize an article and put it into your own words? And then give a link?
 

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No one is comparing except the OPoster and his bunch of cronies.... To each his own.... It's false that Muslim women enjoy less freedom and respect than any other in the world...
 

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No one is comparing except the OPoster and his bunch of cronies.... To each his own.... It's false that Muslim women enjoy less freedom and respect than any other in the world...

Now you're lying... you just implied a little bit ago that women in Pakistan enjoy less freedom and respect because of societal and religious tradition.
 

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Just stop lying and acting like a hate-mongering troll....

I stand by my words ...

You needn't compare your women with ours....there is no sense in that because both belong to a different culture. Grow up!

From the MazHur School of Debate:
When all else fails, when you can't sell your ideas, then accuse others of lying and hating.

Listen, I've been to the Middle East and to other predominantly Muslim countries in Asia. Our culture is very different from yours. If this is the basis for our discussions, then don't walk into this forum and expect everyone to fall in line with your ideas. Our values appear to be quite different. If consensus is ever reached, it is going to take a long time, and yes this is a two way street. It takes patience, understanding and the ability to consider alternative view.

If you want to throw criticism, be read to take criticism and not loose your cool.
 
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From the MazHur School of Debate:
When all else fails, when you can't sell your ideas, then accuse others of lying and hating.

Listen, I've been to the Middle East and to other predominantly Muslim countries in Asia. Our culture is very different from yours. If this is the basis for our discussions, then don't walk into this forum and expect everyone to fall in line with your ideas. Our values appear to be quite different. If consensus is ever reached, it is going to take a long time, and yes this is a two way street. It takes patience, understanding and the ability to consider alternative view.

If you want to throw criticism, be read to take criticism and not loose your cool.

Everything is a Zionist lie!!!!!!

He's starting to sound like Ahmadinejad.
 

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From the MazHur School of Debate:
When all else fails, when you can't sell your ideas, then accuse others of lying and hating.

Listen, I've been to the Middle East and to other predominantly Muslim countries in Asia. Our culture is very different from yours. If this is the basis for our discussions, then don't walk into this forum and expect everyone to fall in line with your ideas. Our values appear to be quite different. If consensus is ever reached, it is going to take a long time, and yes this is a two way street. It takes patience, understanding and the ability to consider alternative view.

If you want to throw criticism, be read to take criticism and not loose your cool.


Just don't tell me what the hell you are or where you have been or not.

I never said I wanted your culture and values to be the same as mine, On the contrary it is you who lifts up his tail to show his's whenever it comes to Muslim countries.
You know nothing about the Muslims ......you are nothing more than a troll, a hate monger and a sad man!:thumbdown
 

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