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"Largely with foreign help, Iran is becoming self-sufficient in the production of ballistic missiles," says the report's author, Kenneth Katzman.

um.. if you use foreign help, you cant be self-sufficient.

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Yes you can... reread the quote. They are getting forien help to become self-sufficient at building them. As in getting technical aide or machinery to build them. As in they can build them with components they make themselves then put them together without outside help.

:dunno: Makes sence to me.

Scary thought though... isn't it?
 

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The dumbing down of the world has begun...

It's kinda like the overseas weather forecast I was watching...the perky weather guy was talking about the unseasonal dump of snow a region was experiencing, "so far they've had 12 inches of snow"...*perky weather man takes a second to reflect*..."that's about a foot".

No, it is a foot.
 

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I don't see the problem. They are becoming self sufficient with the help of another. Becoming indacates they are on their way to beingit. It doesn't say they are self sufficient with help.
 

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my reasoning:

if you depend on foreight help to become self-sufficient, you have not achieved your goal of self-sufficence, because you are dependent on others...
 

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my reasoning:

if you depend on foreight help to become self-sufficient, you have not achieved your goal of self-sufficence, because you are dependent on others...

Think about it this way, 'give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime'.

The foreign aide is basically the other country teaching Iran to become self sufficient in building the missiles. As in, teaching Iranians how to build them themselves.
 

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Think about it this way, 'give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime'.

The foreign aide is basically the other country teaching Iran to become self sufficient in building the missiles. As in, teaching Iranians how to build them themselves.

you can teach the man to fish, but if you teach him how to make a fishing pole, how to make string, how to make weights, et cetera... then, he can fish without future intervention. oh, and they have to have the resources to complete such. ;)
 

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my reasoning:

if you depend on foreight help to become self-sufficient, you have not achieved your goal of self-sufficence, because you are dependent on others...


Then you are not self-sufficient and never will be, because your parents taught you how to live as a human.
 

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Then you are not self-sufficient and never will be, because your parents taught you how to live as a human.

actually, not to the extent you think. and i dont feel like expanding upon this comment, for i do not feel like thinking much right now. :)
 

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you can teach the man to fish, but if you teach him how to make a fishing pole, how to make string, how to make weights, et cetera... then, he can fish without future intervention. oh, and they have to have the resources to complete such. ;)

Way to overcomplicate my point...
 

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well, if one uses broad generalized concepts, then one must be prepared to delve into the specialized concepts that built the broad generalized concpets.

:D
 
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