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[Alien Allen]

Erin Brokovich made her claim to fame on a bogus case. It was the usual histrionics and emotional tugging of heart strings. Just because she won the case does not mean what she alleged was true. Do some research on sites that are not liberal environmental wacko crap and you will get a more balanced view. end of hijack.

 

[Minor Axis]

Erin Brokovich made her claim to fame on a bogus case. It was the usual histrionics and emotional tugging of heart strings. Just because she won the case does not mean what she alleged was true. Do some research on sites that are not liberal environmental wacko crap and you will get a more balanced view. end of hijack.

Your source please. Although you are free to believe what you want, my definition of bogus for this case, as you used it would indicate the issues presented in this case, a large corporation who polluted the ground water possibly harming local residents is not true. Is that what your saying Allen?

Check out this Salon.com article. There are issues in that many of the residents did not get what they were expecting in the amount of payment, but their ailments appear to have basis. And the exact amount of harm residents received as a result of drinking chromium contaminated water is disputed, but the Corporation in question offered to purchase homes from residents at 10x their value before the health issues became the predominant claim.

They suffer many physical ailments, including bloody noses, various intestinal ailments, bad backs, rotten teeth and tumors. In 1952, PG&E built a pumping station on 20 acres near town as part of its enormous gas-transmission system. The station pumped natural gas through an artery of pipes stretching from the Texas Panhandle to the San Francisco Bay Area; the system served PG&E customers in much of the state’s Central Valley.


The company used the chromium to prevent rust from corroding its water-cooling system. The chemical runoff was disposed of in unlined wastewater ponds. (After 1966, the utility lined its ponds.) In 1987, during what the company claims was a routine check, PG&E found that its chromium had leaked into the water supply. In December 1987 it reported its findings to the California Regional Water Quality Control Board, as required. The board ordered the utility to clean up the pollution.

In the early 1990s PG&E undertook a $12.5 million cleanup effort, approaching the owners of three farms and 10 houses in the area and offering to buy their properties.

Source: Environmental Working Group

The National Toxicology Program has concluded that hexavalent chromium (also called chromium-6) in drinking water shows “clear evidence of carcinogenic activity” in laboratory animals, increasing the risk of gastrointestinal tumors. In September 2010, a draft toxicological review by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) similarly found that hexavalent chromium in tap water is “likely to be carcinogenic to humans.”

 

[Johnfromokc]

Erin Brokovich made her claim to fame on a bogus case. It was the usual histrionics and emotional tugging of heart strings. Just because she won the case does not mean what she alleged was true. Do some research on sites that are not liberal environmental wacko crap and you will get a more balanced view. end of hijack.

That's what people like Rush Limbaugh have been saying for years. Case closed - Rush said it was a bunch of emotional liberal BS - so no need to investigate further.

We can put anything into our drinking water with no consequences - the conservatives say so, so it must be true.

Who cares what scientists say? The Earth is resilient - hell, you can urinate and deficate in your own well with no worries!

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/hexchrom/

NIOSH considers all Cr(VI) compounds to be potential occupational carcinogens. Occupational exposure to Cr(VI) compounds is associated with lung, nasal, and sinus cancer. Other respiratory effects include nasal irritation and ulceration, and perforation of the nasal septum and eardrum. Dermal exposure to Cr(VI) compounds can cause skin irritation, ulceration, sensitization, and allergic contact dermatitis.

Hey - it might be an occupational exposure hazard - but humans can drink it and bathe in it with no problems at all according to anti-environmental regulation conservatives.

 

[Minor Axis]

Source: Environmental Working Group

The National Toxicology Program has concluded that hexavalent chromium (also called chromium-6) in drinking water shows “clear evidence of carcinogenic activity” in laboratory animals, increasing the risk of gastrointestinal tumors. In September 2010, a draft toxicological review by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) similarly found that hexavalent chromium in tap water is “likely to be carcinogenic to humans.”

I forgot to add that this analysis will only last until Mitt Romney is elected President and gets his hands on the EPA. At that point chromium 6 will be judged to have health benefits, like fresh breath and better vision.

 

[Accountable]

That reminds me (and is WAY off the topic): Have you noticed that -- now that single-payer healthcare is pretty much inevitable & just around the corner -- that we keep hearing that too many tests is not good for you anymore?

 

[Minor Axis]

That reminds me (and is WAY off the topic): Have you noticed that -- now that single-payer healthcare is pretty much inevitable & just around the corner -- that we keep hearing that too many tests is not good for you anymore?

My understanding is that in S. Texas the number of tests executed by medicare/medicaid Drs accelerated as the payments from those programs were reduced, possibly inferring they would try to maintain their income level by dishonest means. Corruption will kill any system. BTW, I consider robbing SS since the day it was created as a form of corruption...

I want a single payer health system but I think the entire system must be revamped. I really liked the suggestions offered by our member Ahmed, such as reducing if not eradicating the cost of obtaining a medical degree (for those who are worthy). And somehow I am suspicious of for-profit corporations running health care. I admit that many of my suggestions would result in more socialization than we all ready have. For example, no one wants to be a general practitioner because you can't afford to pay off your $200k in debt by being one of those. Instead the tendency is to gravitate to where the big bucks are, surgery and specialty medicine. This would have to be fixed. Then we'd also have to have some real life death boards who decide when you are 80 how much should be spent on you to keep you going for another 5 years and revamping our litigious mal-practise environment.

One major obstacle is that as long as the GOP is around, they are dead set against this kind of a health system for average citizens. The hugeness of the obstacles and the partisan atmosphere in Washington makes me a pessimist on our ability to correct these things.

 

[Johnfromokc]

Wonder how many union jobs are here? Oh - that's right - none - American factories moved there for cheap labor and no environmental regulation.