Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

[Greatest I am]

Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

People who believe in the barbaric human blood sacrifice of theTriune Jesus/God must believe that the greatest force ever to exist decidedthat humans, lowly creations whom we aretold are infinitely inferior to God, are somehow more important than God’s ownlife and that he would give it up for believers.

That is like a slave master dying in place of his slave. A rather silly notion to me.

Jesus preached that we should develop a humble characterwith little self-pride.

How is placing your own life above Triune Jesus/God’sshowing a humble character as you think that he would die for you? That istaking self-pride to the maximum.

I think that those with good morals will know that no nobleand gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a so called son just to proveit's benevolence.

Yet Christians who think they are moral will believe thatGod would do such a despicable thing as having his son killed even asscriptures say that God prefers repentance to sacrifice and does not believe inasking or accepting a ransom.

Is thinking that to believe that God would die for you theepitome of an inflated ego?

If not, what could possibly inflate an ego more than that?

Regards
DL

 

[The Man]

Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

People who believe in the barbaric human blood sacrifice of theTriune Jesus/God must believe that the greatest force ever to exist decidedthat humans, lowly creations whom we aretold are infinitely inferior to God, are somehow more important than God’s ownlife and that he would give it up for believers.

That is like a slave master dying in place of his slave. A rather silly notion to me.

Jesus preached that we should develop a humble characterwith little self-pride.

How is placing your own life above Triune Jesus/God’sshowing a humble character as you think that he would die for you? That istaking self-pride to the maximum.

I think that those with good morals will know that no nobleand gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a so called son just to proveit's benevolence.

Yet Christians who think they are moral will believe thatGod would do such a despicable thing as having his son killed even asscriptures say that God prefers repentance to sacrifice and does not believe inasking or accepting a ransom.

Is thinking that to believe that God would die for you theepitome of an inflated ego?

If not, what could possibly inflate an ego more than that?

Regards
DL

How is placing your own life above Triune Jesus/God’sshowing a humble character as you think that he would die for you

People worship god,not themselves..thus not putting themselves first..as they are serving god.

Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

Jesus was Gods son...not a god.

Thus your post is based upon a fallacious argument.

I suggest perhaps educating yourself on the simple history of Christianity before attacking its values as to avoid looking like an uneducated basement basher in regard to religious matters.

Regards,
TM

 

[Greatest I am]

People worship god,not themselves..thus not putting themselves first..as they are serving god.




Jesus was Gods son...not a god.

Thus your post is based upon a fallacious argument.

I suggest perhaps educating yourself on the simple history of Christianity before attacking its values as to avoid looking like an uneducated basement basher in regard to religious matters.

Regards,
TM

Jesus said that he is served by his people and that we would know them by their deeds.
He also told them to pick up their cross/responsibilities and follow him.

Instead, Christians served themselves by jumping on his poor scapegoat back and they expect his work to get them into heaven.

I see a bunch of swollen headed hypocrites with their inflated eoes on their way to hell.

Bring you tanning oil.

That is where those who embrace human sacrifice will end up.

Regards
DL

 

[The Man]

Jesus said that he is served by his people and that we would know them by their deeds.
He also told them to pick up their cross/responsibilities and follow him.

Instead, Christians served themselves by jumping on his poor scapegoat back and they expect his work to get them into heaven.

I see a bunch of swollen headed hypocrites with their inflated eoes on their way to hell.

Bring you tanning oil.

That is where those who embrace human sacrifice will end up.

Regards
DL

Jesus said that he is served by his people and that we would know them by their deeds.

Above is contradictory to your statement below

How is placing your own life above Triune Jesus/God’sshowing a humble character as you think that he would die for you

He also told them to pick up their cross/responsibilities and follow him.

Followers place the one they are following before{worship} them correct.
But you have been saying that people have been putting themselves before jesus...so how could they be followers with your logic?

Instead, Christians served themselves by jumping on his poor scapegoat back and they expect his work to get them into heaven.

Here you relate to the past rather than the present...who are you referring to in the past and do you have any documentation to support such.

I see a bunch of swollen headed hypocrites with their inflated eoes on their way to hell.

Here you speak as a believer as you state people will go to hell for their actions...with that logic you will also burn in hell due to your structured belief.

Bring you tanning oil.

Rhetoric

That is where those who embrace human sacrifice will end up.

Are you saying those that believe in the sacrifice of Jesus will burn in hell because they embrace the sacrifice?
With that logic putting jesus before you will put you in hell...and your prior argument of not putting Jesus before you also puts you in hell.
Your argument is now dismissed on page one....as said in my prior post you may want to educate yourself on religious matters before further "basement bashing".

Regards
TM

 

[Greatest I am]

Above is contradictory to your statement below


Followers place the one they are following before{worship} them correct.
But you have been saying that people have been putting themselves before jesus...so how could they be followers with your logic?



Here you relate to the past rather than the present...who are you referring to in the past and do you have any documentation to support such.




Here you speak as a believer as you state people will go to hell for their actions...with that logic you will also burn in hell due to your structured belief.

Rhetoric


Are you saying those that believe in the sacrifice of Jesus will burn in hell because they embrace the sacrifice?
With that logic putting jesus before you will put you in hell...and your prior argument of not putting Jesus before you also puts you in hell.
Your argument is now dismissed on page one....as said in my prior post you may want to educate yourself on religious matters before further "basement bashing".

Regards
TM

There is nothing that proves that Jesus ever lived so your documentation request cannot be taken.

If you think that those who embrace human sacrifice and the notion that they should profit from God having his son murdered will go to heaven instead of hell then that just shows that what this gent says is true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeOfzN8ZTAM

Regards
DL

 

[Francis]

Jesus said that he is served by his people and that we would know them by their deeds.
He also told them to pick up their cross/responsibilities and follow him.


Regards

There is nothing that proves that Jesus ever lived so your documentation request cannot be taken.

Regards

First highlighted item from you says "Jesus Said"..

Next one says "There is nothing that proves Jesus ever lived"

If you don't believe he lived... How did he say anything to his people ?

Oh I know, maybe he can say things from the beyond or through others, but that still saying it isn't it.. So you do believe in him.

Make up your freaking mind..

 

[Greatest I am]

As an esoteric character he lives in all of us.
To think him real though, even he would find foolish afterwhat he himself says.
If you seek enlightenment instead of blind obedience thenlisten and learn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y

Regards
DL

 

[Francis]

As an esoteric character he lives in all of us.
To think him real though, even he would find foolish afterwhat he himself says.
If you seek enlightenment instead of blind obedience thenlisten and learn.


Regards

So you talk about him as tough he doesn't really exist ( mystical ) but uses his words against him. Might as well not use him as an example.

Also must you always use YouTube to speak for you. Can you not type for yourself or must you always post videos most people have long abandoned looking at.

 

[Joe the meek]

Dang

Out of all the people NOT to show up...

 

[Greatest I am]

RegardsDL:willy_nilly::willy_nilly:

 

[Francis]

Regards:willy_nilly::willy_nilly:

Best post ever..

 

[The Man]

As an esoteric character he lives in all of us.
To think him real though, even he would find foolish afterwhat he himself says.
If you seek enlightenment instead of blind obedience thenlisten and learn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y

Regards
DL

As an esoteric character he lives in all of us

Above you say he lives in all of us.

To think him real though, even he would find foolish afterwhat he himself says.

Here you say jesus would find you foolish to think he is real.
He would have to be real to be able to find one foolish correct.
You do understand you are labeling yourself a fool with how you are presenting your argument?
Perhaps you meant to present your argument differently than it appears....can you clarify.

 

[Greatest I am]

Above you say he lives in all of us.


Here you say jesus would find you foolish to think he is real.
He would have to be real to be able to find one foolish correct.
You do understand you are labeling yourself a fool with how you are presenting your argument?
Perhaps you meant to present your argument differently than it appears....can you clarify.

Watch that link and you will understand. If not, I do not have the time to educate you on the fundamentals of esoteric teachings. Esoteric Jesus can only live within you. Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if thereforethine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man loveme, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come untohim, and make our abode with him.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there!for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also didpredestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be thefirstborn among many brethren.
Regards DL

 

[The Man]

Watch that link and you will understand. If not, I do not have the time to educate you on the fundamentals of esoteric teachings. Esoteric Jesus can only live within you. Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if thereforethine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man loveme, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come untohim, and make our abode with him.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there!for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also didpredestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be thefirstborn among many brethren.
Regards DL

It is not a response to my questions directed to you in prior posts...you have been dodging every question {as expected as you have built a fallacious argument.

If not, I do not have the time to educate you on the fundamentals of esoteric teachings.

You claim to not understand it and come here posing questions in your opening post...now say you dont have the time to teach it....which is it.

As stone would say.....perhaps you should start your thread over.

 

[Greatest I am]

I did not claim to not understand anything although there are things that I do not understand. Regards DL

 

[The Man]

I did not claim to not understand anything although there are things that I do not understand. Regards DL

although there are things that I do not understand.

Jesus was not a God but Gods son being the perfect example.{which you even mention yourself}..{therefore contradicting yourself in the first post.}

Which is what leads to your odd statements...another one being the one below

That is like a slave master dying in place of his slave.

Jesus was a servant of God...Which would make god the master while using your analogy...you have it backwards.
You have built a fallacious argument built upon a false premise by intentionally switching character in order to build your argument.

 

[Greatest I am]

Jesus was not a God but Gods son being the perfect example.{which you even mention yourself}..{therefore contradicting yourself in the first post.}

Which is what leads to your odd statements...another one being the one below

Jesus was a servant of God...Which would make god the master while using your analogy...you have it backwards.
You have built a fallacious argument built upon a false premise by intentionally switching character in order to build your argument.

LOL.

I said nothing about Jesusbeing God’s servant. I did speak of God as master and we other humans as hisslaves.

I see that honesty is notyour forte.

No wonder you quote Stone.

Regards
DL

 

[FoxInSox]

Jesus, man.
How many forums are you on anyhow????

:24::eek

 

[Greatest I am]

Jesus, man.
How many forums are you on anyhow????

:24::eek

You have a problem with freedom of choice? Regards DL

 

[The Man]

LOL.

I said nothing about Jesusbeing God’s servant. I did speak of God as master and we other humans as hisslaves.

I see that honesty is notyour forte.

No wonder you quote Stone.

Regards
DL

You stated below

That is like a slave master dying in place of his slave. A rather silly notion to me.

Jesus is the one that died..whom was Gods son.

Your very first sentence in the post goes as follows below

Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

Its pretty simple ,,you haven't a clue about the concept of Christianity but present yourself as an authority on the subject.

You want to find faults with the religion...while using a false argument to fill your agenda.