Is ignoring Jesus on divorce breaking the first commandment?

[porterjack]

it's not a commandment but it's more than a marriage vow, it's an actual quote from the bible. Mark 10:9

dont Christians believe that quotes from the Bible are all commandments in a sense, perhaps not one of the ten but nevertheless if the Bible is deemed the word of God is it not generally understood to be his word or his commandment

 

[sexysadie]

dont Christians believe that quotes from the Bible are all commandments in a sense, perhaps not one of the ten but nevertheless if the Bible is deemed the word of God is it not generally understood to be his word or his commandment

He has set out the ten commandments for us to follow but yes, basically HIS word is what it's all about.

 

[porterjack]

He has set out the ten commandments for us to follow but yes, basically HIS word is what it's all about.

so if this true then Mark 10:9 is a comandment?

 

[mazHur]

He has set out the ten commandments for us to follow but yes, basically HIS word is what it's all about.

Yes, Bible, the Original one, is the Word of God but do men have the right to change
the Word of God at their whims as is apparent from the several versions of it around??

 

[sexysadie]

so if this true then Mark 10:9 is a comandment?

True, but not one of THE ten. If this is what the op had in mind at the time of posting this thread then perhaps he shouldn't have referred to it as the 'first' commandment....giving the rest of us the idea that he was referring to the Ten in question.

 

[Greatest I am]

True, but not one of THE ten. If this is what the op had in mind at the time of posting this thread then perhaps he shouldn't have referred to it as the 'first' commandment....giving the rest of us the idea that he was referring to the Ten in question.

Only to a few who do not understand what the first commandment means.

Is breaking any commandment not placing some other policy above God's?
Yes it is.

Regards
DL

 

[Roxi]

Nice and straight forward.
You do not believe in divorce but you do believe in divorce.

Thanks for this.

Regards
DL

What I meant is I do not believe in divorce if its for thr wrong reason i.e bored with the marriage, leaving for someone else ect... If someone is being abused mentally, psychically or being treated extremely unfailing then it is cause to be able to leave that situation for your own sanity & safety.

Was I wrong to leave my ex?

 

[Tuffdisc]

Is ignoring Jesus on divorce breaking the first commandment?
What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
In the eyes of Jesus, there was no earthly reason for divorce. This stance was apparently softened by the writers of scripture because of long held Jewish and Roman beliefs and customs where men could divorce their wives for a variety of reasons. Women‘s right to divorce was not in any way as liberal.
They are certainly putting their policies above Gods and in this way breaking the first commandment.
Are Christians and Catholics who follow Trinitarian thinking going against God’s first commandment by ignoring Jesus’ standards and divorcing their wives?
Here is a priest who says that marriage has nothing to do with religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qvOifikAlk&feature=related
Here is a segment that says marriage has everything to do with religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck7zUNgWFtk&feature=related
Here is one for fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw
Regards
DL

Thought the commandment was thou shalt not commit adultery, clearly not reading the bible properly

Jesus simply said that because there was a 'hardness of hearts' that divorce was inevitable, doesn't justify adultery, a clear difference as what you are reading and listening to those stupid videos of yours

And as some people have correctly said already, the first commandment was to "have no other Gods before Him"

 

[Greatest I am]

What I meant is I do not believe in divorce if its for thr wrong reason i.e bored with the marriage, leaving for someone else ect... If someone is being abused mentally, psychically or being treated extremely unfailing then it is cause to be able to leave that situation for your own sanity & safety.

Was I wrong to leave my ex?

Not at all.

I do not quite agree with your reason for staying if you are bored or leaving for someone else though.

Since you have accentuated the negatives of it, let me state the positive.

All of us only have one life. To shackle ourselves with laws that prevent us from seeking a reasonably good life is really stupid.

No one should be coerced or talk themselves into staying married and remaining in an unhappy state if we do not see change in the future.

Love and happiness should be the glue that hold a marriage. If those are absent, why settle for less?
If love dies then so should the marriage.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Thought the commandment was thou shalt not commit adultery, clearly not reading the bible properly

Jesus simply said that because there was a 'hardness of hearts' that divorce was inevitable, doesn't justify adultery, a clear difference as what you are reading and listening to those stupid videos of yours

And as some people have correctly said already, the first commandment was to "have no other Gods before Him"

Shallow thinking is what I seem to always get from you.

And for Christians, following their policies of divorce ahead of what Jesus said, is placing someone above God.

If not, then what does the first commandment mean to you?

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Shallow thinking is what I seem to always get from you.

And for Christians, following their policies of divorce ahead of what Jesus said, is placing someone above God.

If not, then what does the first commandment mean to you?

Regards
DL

I find your remarks very hypocritical, you say that I insult you, yet you insult me..thought you were great as to not be judgemental......................

The first commandment is "I am the Lord your God. You shall have no other gods before me" Obviously you haven't read the bible, you would of picked that one out. Adultery comes in at 7th place. If you say that divorce is in at 1st place for you. then the other commandments don't really mean anything to you

 

[Peter Parka]

It depends on what you personally want to believe. If there is something you dont like in the Bible you simply twist it round to what you want it to mean, however silly your interpretation sounds and without any evidence, tell people you disagree with that that is the correct understanding of it. It's the Christian way!:thumbup

 

[Greatest I am]

I find your remarks very hypocritical, you say that I insult you, yet you insult me..thought you were great as to not be judgemental......................

Reciprocity is fair play. If you cannot take an insult then do not give one.

As to judging, your judgment is flawed as to my view of judging. That is your shallow thinking again.

I am a firm believer in all things being judged. We all do so all the time and this is good. Some like you just judge poorly.

The first commandment is "I am the Lord your God. You shall have no other gods before me" Obviously you haven't read the bible,

Another wrong judgment on your part.

you would of picked that one out. Adultery comes in at 7th place. If you say that divorce is in at 1st place for you. then the other commandments don't really mean anything to you

You might have noted if you were not so busy thinking up insults that I did not say anything about adultery as a main part of the O P but talked of the notion that not following the words of Jesus was not following the first commandment and putting ones own policy above Gods.

Your shallow thinking and reading again. That is what leads you to foolish statements.

You also ignored my question above in your zeal to insult.

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"And for Christians, following their policies of divorce ahead of what Jesus said, is placing someone above God.

If not, then what does the first commandment mean to you?"

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Care to have a go? If not, I will just ignore your next batch of insults.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

It depends on what you personally want to believe. If there is something you dont like in the Bible you simply twist it round to what you want it to mean, however silly your interpretation sounds and without any evidence, tell people you disagree with that that is the correct understanding of it. It's the Christian way!:thumbup

Yes and in this case, the church softened the unworkable stance of Jesus in order to play to the crowd. Rather hypocritical but then again, that is the Christian way.

Regards
DL

 

[Minor Axis]

In the big picture of personal development, I'm skeptical that the preservation of "marriage", a convention created by humans is something that is important to God.

 

[mazHur]

In the big picture of personal development, I'm skeptical that the preservation of "marriage", a convention created by humans is something that is important to God.

i think it is important to humans if not God...

If 'personal development' was all that important then how would you define
status of relationship with those whom you can't marry??

 

[Greatest I am]

In the big picture of personal development, I'm skeptical that the preservation of "marriage", a convention created by humans is something that is important to God.

I agree. All that has come out of God's mouth has been words put there by man.

Permanent marriage is the ideal but only if the participants are in a situation that satisfies them. If not, as I said, we are all allowed to seek pleasure and happiness in life and if that takes a divorce then that is what we should do.

If one of the parties think they can be happy while the other is not then I would suggest that that party does not truly love the other because if they did, then the other persons happiness should override his or her selfish consideration.

Regards
DL