Is God using humans to reproduce appropriate reproductive conduct?

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[Minor Axis]

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Oh that Maury...

 

[Greatest I am]

The entire story is suspect. I see no point in trying to analyzing that specifically. As far as the Theists go, John and Mary were good candidates to raise his Kid...

I only analyze to show just how suspect the story is.
The notion of a God living inside a human for 9 months is just ludicrous.

Regards
DL

 

[doombug]

I only analyze to show just how suspect the story is.
The notion of a God living inside a human for 9 months is just ludicrous.

Regards
DL

Nah, you twist the story to fit your BS. That's why you don't show how you come to your conclusion.

 

[BornReady]

My understanding is that Virgin birth is a religious myth that has been repeated multiple times down through the millennium across a variety of religions.

True but the Virgin Mary story seems unique. In other myths the god didn't impregnate the mother with human sperm. The god used his own seed and the resulting child was a demigod. The point of the Virgin Mary story (as far as I can tell and I could easily be wrong) was to create a completely human baby without Mary having sex. Apparently sex would have corrupted Mary and thereby made Jesus an unfit vessel to contain the spirit of God. Could it be this anti-sex attitude at the beginning of Christianity had something to do with why so many Americans are sexually repressed today? At least many are sexually repressed imo. I'm sure my explanation is way too simple to be correct. Society is very complex and there are rarely easy answers. But this is something I've been pondering the last couple weeks.

 

[doombug]

True but the Virgin Mary story seems unique. In other myths the god didn't impregnate the mother with human sperm. The god used his own seed and the resulting child was a demigod.

Well, BR this claim has been made but hasn't been substantiated. That is why some make statements like this:

My understanding is that Virgin birth is a religious myth that has been repeated multiple times down through the millennium across a variety of religions.

They know this claim is dubious at best and seems to be nothing but anti-christian rhetoric.

The point of the Virgin Mary story (as far as I can tell and I could easily be wrong) was to create a completely human baby without Mary having sex. Apparently sex would have corrupted Mary and thereby made Jesus an unfit vessel to contain the spirit of God.

I don't know about that. I don't know if the bible says Jesus was a "completely human baby" but it does make sense. If God wanted to enter human existence this would seem to be the best way to do it so as to make sense to humans.

Could it be this anti-sex attitude at the beginning of Christianity had something to do with why so many Americans are sexually repressed today? At least many are sexually repressed imo. I'm sure my explanation is way too simple to be correct. Society is very complex and there are rarely easy answers. But this is something I've been pondering the last couple weeks.

I've been to other countries with that had many Christians and they weren't as "sexually repressed" as Americans. There are other countries that are even more repressed than the US.

 

[Greatest I am]

Nah, you twist the story to fit your BS. That's why you don't show how you come to your conclusion.

I do tell you but you just will not think of how it is done.

Let me give you another bit.
Part of coming to my conclusion is the near sure assumption that God does not take 9 month holidays.
Oh. No such thing as invisible flying sperm.

How did you come to the conclusion that there was?
Reciprocity is fair play now. I showed you mine, you show me yours.

Regards
DL

 

[doombug]

I do tell you but you just will not think of how it is done.

Let me give you another bit.
Part of coming to my conclusion is the near sure assumption that God does not take 9 month holidays.
Oh. No such thing as invisible flying sperm.

How did you come to the conclusion that there was?
Reciprocity is fair play now. I showed you mine, you show me yours.

Regards
DL

I don't see any reason God would need to take 9 month holiday. As far as "flying sperm" goes I would think if God could create man from dust then to produce Jesus the way He did would be a cakewalk.

Since you take your premises from the bible why don't you quote scriptures to back yourself up?

 

[BornReady]

Well, BR this claim has been made but hasn't been substantiated.

I was thinking of Hercules who was the son of Zeus and mortal Alcmene.

I've been to other countries with that had many Christians and they weren't as "sexually repressed" as Americans.

Good point.

 

[doombug]

I was thinking of Hercules who was the son of Zeus and mortal Alcmene.

And when was the story of hercules written?

 

[BornReady]

And when was the story of hercules written?

Hercules was a mythological hero. He may have been based on a historical person but nobody really knows. Many stories were told about him and passed down from generation to generation. No one knows when he was born but it was said to be around 4000 BC.

Hercules was thought to be half man and half god. Unlike Jesus, who was thought to be all man and all god. I'm not sure what that even means. But I'd guess it means he had a human body and a divine spirit.

 

[doombug]

Hercules was a mythological hero. He may have been based on a historical person but nobody really knows. Many stories were told about him and passed down from generation to generation. No one knows when he was born but it was said to be around 4000 BC.

Hercules was thought to be half man and half god. Unlike Jesus, who was thought to be all man and all god. I'm not sure what that even means. But I'd guess it means he had a human body and a divine spirit.

You see BR this is the problem: No one knows. People have came up with the idea that the story of Jesus is based on other stories of gods throughout history but no one really shows proof of such. This can be done by examining written texts of these gods and from what I have seen the idea that people present is dubious.

 

[BornReady]

People have came up with the idea that the story of Jesus is based on other stories of gods throughout history but no one really shows proof of such.

I'm more interested in the difference between the conception of Jesus and demigods than the similarity. Apparently God impregnated Mary because he didn't want her to have sex, not because he didn't want Jesus to have a human father. The reason it seems that way to me is because Jesus was not a demigod. Christians thought of him as fully human at least physically. In other words, he didn't have any special physical powers.

What this story tells me is Christians apparently considered sex to be dirty from the inception of Christianity. Some Christians still do. I think many Catholics believe Mary didn't even have sex after Jesus was born because sex would have corrupted her.

 

[doombug]

I'm more interested in the difference between the conception of Jesus and demigods than the similarity. Apparently God impregnated Mary because he didn't want her to have sex, not because he didn't want Jesus to have a human father. The reason it seems that way to me is because Jesus was not a demigod. Christians thought of him as fully human at least physically. In other words, he didn't have any special physical powers.

What this story tells me is Christians apparently considered sex to be dirty from the inception of Christianity. Some Christians still do. I think many Catholics believe Mary didn't even have sex after Jesus was born because sex would have corrupted her.

I don't know about all that BR. It could be the virgin birth was only to prove Jesus was a miracle. I don't know if God made Mary pregnant because He didn't want her to have sex or because human sperm didn't have what was needed to produce Jesus. I don't think I would read that much into the virgin birth.