Is God using humans to reproduce appropriate reproductive conduct?

[Greatest I am]

Why does God use humans to reproduce?
Is God using humans to reproduce appropriate reproductive conduct?

All other known entities, except for God, use their own to reproduce.
One would think that an almighty God could find his own woman and reproduce purely instead of fathering a half breed hybrid.

The reality, mythically speaking, of Ashera, God’s wife, indicates that God was using inappropriate reproductive methods.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42154769/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/did-god-have-wife-scholar-says-he-did/

He in fact coveted another man’s woman, Mary. Breaking his own commandment.

Any other time that a human would do as God did, we would brand his child a bastard and have a few choice labels for the father as well. Christians would brand him a sinner yet we praise God for the same sin.

In Jesus’s case, we somehow respect Jesus the chimera half breed even though he was a product of inappropriate reproduction. Some would also call it bestiality if they see God as one species and mankind as another.

We see God coveting, we see him using another man’s wife, and we see God abandoning the child he later will use as a ransom and condemn to death.

Were these conditions appropriate for God to reproduce or was it inappropriate?

Regards
DL

 

[Minor Axis]

If you believe scripture or the official story, there was no lust involved, and God put the essence of a human sperm (something he could create) into Mary, but not through physical mammal style penetrative sex. He's a God, he would not have to resort to such methods unless he could enjoy some pleasure, but there is no indication of that in print, is there? All indications are that Jesus, if Jesus existed was 100% human. There is no reason to believe anything else. The other issue is that God is using Jesus as a means of sending the human race a message. It's all in scripture. Even I find this post on the extreme side if you are using it as a method of discrediting the Bible. There are enough issues with the premise without trying to insert God's carnal desires into it.

 

[Greatest I am]

If you believe scripture or the official story, there was no lust involved, and God put the essence of a human sperm (something he could create) into Mary, but not through physical mammal style penetrative sex. He's a God, he would not have to resort to such methods unless he could enjoy some pleasure, but there is no indication of that in print, is there? All indications are that Jesus, if Jesus existed was 100% human. There is no reason to believe anything else. The other issue is that God is using Jesus as a means of sending the human race a message. It's all in scripture. Even I find this post on the extreme side if you are using it as a method of discrediting the Bible. There are enough issues with the premise without trying to insert God's carnal desires into it.

I did not.
I was careful to not say anything about sex or carnal desire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aYaV72MmWo

I was hoping that the discussion would go to Ashera and polithesm, what Christianity really is, but it seems to be a bit to complicated an issue for most.

Coveting anothers wife, instead of sexual desire, was God's sin.

Regards
DL

 

[Minor Axis]

I did not.
I was careful to not say anything about sex or carnal desire.

He in fact coveted another man’s woman, Mary.

To covet: : to desire (what belongs to another) inordinately or culpably



I'm not trying to start a fight with you but there are two ways to take this statement, the first prominent way has sexual overtones, the desire for sexual intimacy, the second way could be to love and cherish, entering into a romantic relationship where the partner feels the same way for you, and that usually also includes sex too, but there is no indication in the scriptures to indicate this, is there? There is no known record of God trying to displace Joseph or take Mary from him or have an intimate interlude. I think including the word "covet" undermines your premise.

Instead of getting hung up on this, I prefer to say that within the realm of scripture, a God could have done what is purported, but it would be better to argue, what was the point of creating Jesus? Yeah yeah I know so God could orchestrate the sacrifice of his Son to cleanse mankind of their sins for maybe a second. Milarky! If God wants to have a relationship with mankind, how about just appear and have a direct relationship. Why create a son, that as far as I know never claimed to be the Son of God (did he? If he did, I stand corrected, don't remember without looking it up).

As far as Ashera and polithesm, when I have some time I'll watch your video.

 

[doombug]

I was hoping that the discussion would go to Ashera and polithesm, what Christianity really is, but it seems to be a bit to complicated an issue for most.

Coveting anothers wife, instead of sexual desire, was God's sin.

Regards DL

I see Ol' GIA has done it again. This claim isn't new it has been recently made by Francesca Stavrakopoulou, admitted atheist at the Department of Theology and Religion at the University of Exeter. This claim was revived in time to promote the BBC series, "Bible's Buried Secrets." GIA has fell for it hook, line and sinker.

The bible does say the people and the kings of the time would go astray and worship other gods but it does not say God was married to Ashera. The Bible does say that God has a wife - consisting of none other than His people. GIA is just confused that is all.

 

[BornReady]

there was no lust involved, and God put the essence of a human sperm (something he could create) into Mary, but not through physical mammal style penetrative sex.

I agree. God did not have sex with Mary. But I am intrigued by this story. What was the point of creating human sperm and putting it in Mary? Why not just let Joseph put some sperm in her? I'm sure he would have been more than happy too. Is sex so evil that it pollutes a woman making her unfit to bear God's anointed?

 

[Minor Axis]

I agree. God did not have sex with Mary. But I am intrigued by this story. What was the point of creating human sperm and putting it in Mary? Why not just let Joseph put some sperm in her? I'm sure he would have been more than happy too. Is sex so evil that it pollutes a woman making her unfit to bear God's anointed?

It's all symbolic. Sperm is sperm, DNA is DNA. Anyone really believe that God impregnated Mary with special sperm? I mean many amazing feats have been attributed to Jesus, but a God would not have to go through this process to make it happen. He could just think it to make it so. My understanding is that Virgin birth is a religious myth that has been repeated multiple times down through the millennium across a variety of religions.

 

[doombug]

My understanding is that Virgin birth is a religious myth that has been repeated multiple times down through the millennium across a variety of religions.

Creative guesswork.

 

[Minor Axis]

Creative guesswork.

As opposed to your knowledge on the subject, lol? Wait, you haven't expressed anything knowledgeable... all you can do is ask questions and accuse, I forgot.

 

[Greatest I am]

To covet: : to desire (what belongs to another) inordinately or culpably



I'm not trying to start a fight with you but there are two ways to take this statement, the first prominent way has sexual overtones, the desire for sexual intimacy, the second way could be to love and cherish, entering into a romantic relationship where the partner feels the same way for you, and that usually also includes sex too, but there is no indication in the scriptures to indicate this, is there? There is no known record of God trying to displace Joseph or take Mary from him or have an intimate interlude. I think including the word "covet" undermines your premise.

Instead of getting hung up on this, I prefer to say that within the realm of scripture, a God could have done what is purported, but it would be better to argue, what was the point of creating Jesus? Yeah yeah I know so God could orchestrate the sacrifice of his Son to cleanse mankind of their sins for maybe a second. Milarky! If God wants to have a relationship with mankind, how about just appear and have a direct relationship. Why create a son, that as far as I know never claimed to be the Son of God (did he? If he did, I stand corrected, don't remember without looking it up).

As far as Ashera and polithesm, when I have some time I'll watch your video.

THE 10th COMMANDMENT-(coveting)
Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour's."

I can understand where some would think in sexual terms but note that one cannot covet a house for sex. To me covet just means to desire for one's self.

If you note the other things, people and animals we are not to covet, then you will see that, unless you have really weird sexual tastes, sex does not apply to this commandment.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Creative guesswork.

In light of the evidence against you, how did you reach your conclusion?

I do not expect an answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niOjK0cxGu8

Regards
DL

 

[doombug]

In light of the evidence against you, how did you reach your conclusion?

I do not expect an answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niOjK0cxGu8

Regards
DL

When you have some real credible evidence and prove your premise then I will respond. So far you have nothing.

Regards,
db

 

[Minor Axis]

I can understand where some would think in sexual terms but note that one cannot covet a house for sex. To me covet just means to desire for one's self.

Covet for one's self for what purpose? Covet a house to live in. Covet another man's wife to...?

 

[doombug]

In light of the evidence against you, how did you reach your conclusion?

I do not expect an answer.


Regards
DL

I see you presented a YouTube video that mentions the ancient god Horus being born of a virgin. This isn't true. Horus's birth was the result of necrophilia. Read the story and see for yourself. His mother was Isis, a goddess, which is another difference but left out of the comparison. Such nonsense. The information in your video is false.

 

[Tuffdisc]

I'm not going to bother about this thread, seems like G.I.A. is never going to get a reality check

I think from now onwards its all over and done with, if G.I.A. wants to slam religion for no reason, doesn't listen or read the bible without good reasoning....there is a certain amount of times where I can only put my point across. I think that line had been crossed some time ago. Its about time I ignore his bleating, opinions and hatred towards something he clearly doesn't understand

 

[Greatest I am]

Covet for one's self for what purpose? Covet a house to live in. Covet another man's wife to...?

In the day, to be a slave or to gain her property.

Since God did a hit and run, so to speak, I would say he just wanted an incubator for his bastard son.

Regards
DL

 

[Minor Axis]

In the day, to be a slave or to gain her property.

Since God did a hit and run, so to speak, I would say he just wanted an incubator for his bastard son.

Regards
DL

Drop the word "covet" and you'll have a better argument. Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays!

 

[Greatest I am]

Drop the word "covet" and you'll have a better argument. Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays!

If I remove covet, then why would God choose another man's woman instead of a free one?

Thanks for the holiday cheer and the same to you and yours.

Regards
DL

 

[doombug]

In the day, to be a slave or to gain her property.

Since God did a hit and run, so to speak, I would say he just wanted an incubator for his bastard son.

Regards
DL

I don't know about that but it does look like you are using this forum as an incubator for your bullshit. :24:

 

[Minor Axis]

If I remove covet, then why would God choose another man's woman instead of a free one?

Thanks for the holiday cheer and the same to you and yours.

Regards
DL

The entire story is suspect. I see no point in trying to analyzing that specifically. As far as the Theists go, John and Mary were good candidates to raise his Kid...