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Homer

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Mrs Behavin said:
Homer said:
i'll check it out thanks.

Yeah, you better check it out mister. If you know whats good for you
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my only problem would be with people that would say to let everyone in no matter what, you know people that will do/say what the church says , like peta for people, i think i'd have a stroke trying to deal with them. :dunno
 

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you may say what can i do , well you can let your voices be herd be vocal, don't take this laying down fight back , and get others involved or learn to be Mexican , their is more going on here then just jobs , what better way for Mexico to get anything they want from America then to get 30 mil more Mexicans to vote in the USA , DON'T FOREGET THESE PEOPLE LIKE BIG FAMILYS where most of us are happy having 2 or 3 kids and knowing we can support them they on the other hand like to have 10 or more , and this is something Mexico is banking on , in the end they could take over without fiering a shot.

whats wrong with being mexican? ..im half mexican ..should i not vote? and i come from a large family ..so whats your point? are you against illegals or mexicans in general?
 

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Whats wrong with being a mexican? To me... nothing at all. I had a few non-caucasion decendants friends growing up. Great people.

I just want people to be here according to the laws set forth by the government of the USA. If people want the benefits, and I have to pay for them... I want them to go through the trouble of becoming a citizen legally before they should be able to receive those benefits.
 

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who said their was anything wrong with mexicans , i have a problem with anyone the comes to this country illegaly , my point about big familys is why should Americans pay to support illegals , i have Mexican friends my nephew just married a mexican so don't even think you know me, and no if you're an illegal no matter from where you're from you should not have the right to vote.ps anyone that has more kids then they can afford to support is a drain on every one again why should we foot the bill.
 

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Homer said:
who said their was anything wrong with mexicans , i have a problem with anyone the comes to this country illegaly , my point about big familys is why should Americans pay to support illegals , i have Mexican friends my nephew just married a mexican so don't even think you know me, and no if you're an illegal no matter from where you're from you should not have the right to vote.ps anyone that has more kids then they can afford to support is a drain on every one again why should we foot the bill.

well from your post it sounded like you were against mexicans lol
 

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Here's my small bit.

The argument is, "they're not criminals, and deserve to be here...."

They sneeked around our law enforcement to get here. That's called tresspassing.

They use free schools for their massive families, free medical care, and free social services. That's call stealing.

They're holding huge rallies, waving mexican flags, and threatening Americans who disagree with them. That's stifling OUR free speach.

They hold a boycot to demonstrate their power over us. "Give us our way, or we'll make you sorry." This is called blackmail, extortion, or just plain rude. Take your pick.

How are they not criminals again?

One more tiny observation if you will: The United States has the most liberal immigration laws in the world. We let twice the number of people in than everybody else combined.

No boarders means no country. I for one would like to see the good 'ol U.S.A. stand a few more years before we just give up, and let her die.
 

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i like the way intruder sees and calls things. PH is a potentially good site, but too much personal bashing goes on there.

yea, there are legal and illegal ways of doing things. illegal aliens should expect to be rounded up by the INS when they rally on their begging protests to be returned home (where the fuck was the INS the past few weeks?)

i am against a wall because of how things turned out in China and in Berlin, but law ENFORCEMENT is needed here
 

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considering both sides in the argument i have been saying there is a perfect solution to it

why not grant more work visas/temp citizenship???

the problem is not people coming into this country since that has been goin on for years, the problem is money

grant temp work permits so their incomes would be recorded and they still pay taxes. Everyone is happy at that point, american citizens are happy because the immigrants are paying taxes like everyone else, and the immigrants are happy because it doesnt take them 15 yrs to get into the US system.
 

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SloMoFo said:
considering both sides in the argument i have been saying there is a perfect solution to it

why not grant more work visas/temp citizenship???

the problem is not people coming into this country since that has been goin on for years, the problem is money

grant temp work permits so their incomes would be recorded and they still pay taxes. Everyone is happy at that point, american citizens are happy because the immigrants are paying taxes like everyone else, and the immigrants are happy because it doesnt take them 15 yrs to get into the US system.

that is why i like john mccain so much. if he and guiliani run in 08, they got my vote
 

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SloMoFo said:
considering both sides in the argument i have been saying there is a perfect solution to it

why not grant more work visas/temp citizenship???

the problem is not people coming into this country since that has been goin on for years, the problem is money

grant temp work permits so their incomes would be recorded and they still pay taxes. Everyone is happy at that point, american citizens are happy because the immigrants are paying taxes like everyone else, and the immigrants are happy because it doesnt take them 15 yrs to get into the US system.

Because last I knew the illegals were the ones that hopped the fences and ran for their life across US soil to get into the cities and blend in.

If they applied for their Visas and whatnot, I'm sure we wouldn't have nearly as many illegals in the country.
 

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i don't care much for Mccain but i'd vote for Guiliani in a heart beat,AND NO TO AMNESTY all that did in the 80's was ring the dinner bell and it has cost us 10's of bil$$$$$$$$$$$ maybe hand out worker permits to the ones that want to do it the right way but as for the ones that don't , like don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, if the damn govn did the right thing 20 years ago we wouldn't have this problem now, why don't the mexican people do something about the way things are in their own country now that would impress me go home and fight for you're rights like we did, and for you who think we took this country from you BS as far as i know the American indian was here first you tried to take it from them it didn't work for you so we did what you could not do we had a fight over it and you lost, i should say the indians lost, i'm not saying i'm proud of that though.
 

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mexicans are a mix between the incas and the spanish. they came here AFTER John Cabot, Hudson, and the around the time of the Pilgrims- Columbus doesnt count
 

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AtlanticBlue99 said:
i am against a wall because of how things turned out in China and in Berlin, but law ENFORCEMENT is needed here

There is no need for a Tiananmen Square type deal here. The solution is so exceedingly simple, it almost smacks of too good to be true.

Enforce the laws already on the books. If you had a 1000 federal inspectors nation wide (which would cost next to nothing), checking companies that were breaking the laws by hiring illegals, and then charging them $5000 per violation.... Problem solved. We don't have to come up with a way to deport 11 million people. They'll all figure out the party is over when they can't get work anymore and they'll pay their own way home.

More than that, now that they've seen how things CAN be when a people work hard to build something, they can initiate reform in their own contries.

Done and done. :)
 
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