If you can't decide who to vote for then do you still vote?

[The Man]

you find other people who believe in the same thing as you do, and you organise. The NRA is a classic example.

But aren't they to protect what we already have {which is eroding by the way}
Little different than common folks getting something or someone on a ballot .
Its not an easy task..possible yes...for those that have extra funds and time on their hands.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Rightly or wrongly, the NRA are doing their level best to get what matters to them considered by the politicians.I'd venture to suggest that without their constant propaganda, Americans would see firearms in a completely different light. - but that's not the debate.

People like Dana have little faith in the electoral system, and yet they do less than nothing to make it work for them.

 

[The Man]

Rightly or wrongly, the NRA are doing their level best to get what matters to them considered by the politicians.I'd venture to suggest that without their constant propaganda, Americans would see firearms in a completely different light. - but that's not the debate.

Ahhh yes but why should a group have to influence the politicians to consider enforcing what is already protected?
Yes they make a difference..but in reality they shouldn't be needed...good thing they were created about 150 years ago..as they would never make any headway today
But more to the point...As huge and powerful as the NRA they still lose ground a little at a time..protecting what is already protected.
As we can see a even very large organization cant not fully accomplish its mission.
OWS is another example ...we are the 99 percent ....which beared no strength

 

[Dana]

When you grow up and stop pretending to be someone special, you'll realise that mainstream exists for a reason.

I am no one special but there are more people that feel the way I do than you realize. How about you stop trying to fucking insult me for my opinions.

 

[Dana]

What exactly does growing up mean? to give in to your morals and follow the brainless masses? no thanks.

 

[AnitaBeer]

I haven't had to face that issue yet, but I'm positive I will go vote anyways. My boys look forward to voting with me each election so I want to keep setting the example to them that it is very important to cast their vote when they get older.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

What exactly does growing up mean? to give in to your morals and follow the brainless masses? no thanks.

The 'brainless masses' pay your rent and your food bills.Learn to respect them. When you've walked a mile in my shoes, your opinions might matter to me.

 

[The Man]

The 'brainless masses' pay your rent and your food bills.Learn to respect them. When you've walked a mile in my shoes, your opinions might matter to me.

How are "brainless masses" paying his rent and food

 

[The Man]

The 'brainless masses' pay your rent and your food bills.Learn to respect them. When you've walked a mile in my shoes, your opinions might matter to me.

Learn to respect them

Where has he disrespected those that pay the food and rent?

When you've walked a mile in my shoes, your opinions might matter to me

You dont know where anyone has walked through life..shouldnt matter anyway if one hasnt.
An opinion should be respected.
With your logic...your own opinion regarding the KY shooting should not matter as well as you havent been in the shoes the old man was wearing that early morning during the invasion.
You have just opened a rather large door to disqualify yourself from many future topics in the forum as well as crushed your prior ones at the same time

 

[porterjack]

I haven't had to face that issue yet, but I'm positive I will go vote anyways. My boys look forward to voting with me each election so I want to keep setting the example to them that it is very important to cast their vote when they get older.

Thankfully a sound, balanced post

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

You have just opened a rather large door to disqualify yourself from many future topics in the forum as well as crushed your prior ones at the same time

Weak argument. Much as you dislike me,I'm all over you when it comes to reasoned debate.

 

[The Man]

Weak argument. Much as you dislike me,I'm all over you when it comes to reasoned debate.

Nothing weak about it...nor do I dislike you.
I was merely pointing out your logic disqualifies your own opinions.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Have it your way.

Back on the ignore list, I'll let Dana defend his own principles. He'll probably do a better job of it.

 

[Accountable]

If you want to have your vote count, it's either Republican or Democrat. If you want business promoted and fat cats' existences made easier than it all ready is, at the expense of average citizens, vote Republican. If you want a group that does a better job of protecting citizens across the spectrum, vote Democrat.

 

[Accountable]

I love it how everyone thinks that if you don't vote you don't get to say shit but if they only thing you have to vote for you don't want you don't get a say so anyway
then people say well get someone in there that you want
really wtf is one man gonna do

Voting is only the hiring process. You don't lose your responsibility - or right - to supervise just because you didn't sit on the interviewing committee. Only an idiot would hire someone to do a job and not check on him every once in awhile to see what kind of job he's doing, but that is exactly what millions of voters do. It is the height of irresponsibility.

It doesn't matter as much that you didn't vote but keep tabs on your representative, as it does that so many who vote never do anything beyond that.

Representatives get nervous when constituents complain, although the farther from home they go (such as Washington) the less they care. I heard once that a legislator or governor looks at one letter from a constituent as representing thousands of votes, because many others probably agree with the letter-writer but didn't take the time to write.

 

[Minor Axis]

Pretty bird... Mr Superior does not parrot anything he hears now does he? It also appears you have problems with people expressing opinions that you disagree with.

 

[Accountable]

Pretty bird... Mr Superior does not parrot anything he hears now does he? It also appears you have problems with people expressing opinions that you disagree with.

None. Do you have a problem with me expressing my opinion of your parrot-post?

 

[The Man]

Have it your way.

Back on the ignore list, I'll let Dana defend his own principles. He'll probably do a better job of it.

That he did and quite well I might add...I only joined in as I find your character attacks pathetic and add nothing of value to the threads

 

[Mercury]

I personally have pretty much all but given up on voting. Currently, in my opinion, there just seems to be the same old two puppets that come up for election. One who has his group of high paying friends and the other with his own group of high paying friends. It goes back to the "representative" part of our system. Well, the way I see it is that we no longer have representatives who represent the average citizen but rather power hungry, greedy individuals who are more interested in making policies in helping out themselves and their rich friends. Now, this might be just my own rather negative outlook on politics and have no real merit in reality as who can really tell as to what is REAL or FACT when there is so much information out there now and that it all conflicts with one-another.

 

[Dana]

Have it your way.

Back on the ignore list, I'll let Dana defend his own principles. He'll probably do a better job of it.

I really do not need to defend anything. You seem to belittle anyone who has a varying opinion than yours. You're like a class bully who gets called out on his bullshit. I give respect where respect is given and you haven't shown a lick of it. When people don't bow down to your opinion what's your next move? The ignore list. Seems pretty arrogant to me. How old are you 2?