If Obama is re-elected, you'll be fired, CEO tells workers

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Don't threats like these actually discourage some people to vote a certain way. I mean bullying people into voting a certain party or else we close the doors is old school type politics that used to be the way in the 1970 and 1980s.. Everyone knows if there is a void in a market place it will be filled faster than you can say "money" so why bother.

Just my opinion but I think this will hurt Romney and not help..

David Siegel, the owner of Westgate Resorts, sent a surprising email to his employees Monday.

It said that if President Barack Obama wins re-election and raises Siegel's taxes, he will have to lay off workers and downsize his company — or even shut it down.

"If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company," he wrote. "Rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back. This means fewer jobs, less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone."

In a version of Romney's "47 percent" remarks, Siegel added that "people like me who made all the right decisions and invested in themselves are being forced to bail out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed 42 years of my life for."

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when Obama be came president
180 workers were let go at northrop grumman up front
he cut back the defense and cut back the jobs that created products for the defencd
I was cut back from northrop grummman as well now I work a job at half the pay and barely any benefits
I served 4 years as a us marine stright out of highschoo as well
 

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when Obama be came president
180 workers were let go at northrop grumman up front
he cut back the defense and cut back the jobs that created products for the defencd
I was cut back from northrop grummman as well now I work a job at half the pay and barely any benefits
I served 4 years as a us marine stright out of highschoo as well

I have yet to see any elected official come to power were no one was not affected in some way..

When Obama was elected many US companies closed offices in Canada laying off many people here.. It's a never ending process.. But I can remember Bush coming to power and the same could be said.. Clinton and Reagan as well.. For us any change South spells bad news..

Add to that any change in our own Government that lays off Government employees and cancels contracts that the previous governing party had put in place..


But for a private organization to threaten to close down business or stay open depending on who wins is scary.. What if 3 months after Romney wins he still wants to retire.. Does he have an obligation to remain ?
 
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The truth is so hard to accept aint it?

I would like to see the entire email

From what was copy and pasted it was nothing more than stating facts in the opinion of the business owner

Given how the economy has not recovered and Obama promises more of the same only the left can find fault with his comments
 

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The truth is so hard to accept aint it?

I would like to see the entire email

From what was copy and pasted it was nothing more than stating facts in the opinion of the business owner

Given how the economy has not recovered and Obama promises more of the same only the left can find fault with his comments

So do you or anyone else expect the economy to be at 120% right after the election if Romney wins?

Why is it that other very conservative governments have not done better?
 

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when Obama be came president
180 workers were let go at northrop grumman up front
he cut back the defense and cut back the jobs that created products for the defencd
I was cut back from northrop grummman as well now I work a job at half the pay and barely any benefits
I served 4 years as a us marine stright out of highschoo as well

Thats a pretty major job reduction given the field{high tech defense}
Goes to show he is not concerned about the US having an edge in defense..All the more reason to not vote him in.
If he wanted to create jobs..your field would have been a good area..but to reduce them in your field is kinda scarey
 

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The truth is so hard to accept aint it?

I would like to see the entire email

From what was copy and pasted it was nothing more than stating facts in the opinion of the business owner

Given how the economy has not recovered and Obama promises more of the same only the left can find fault with his comments

Ask and you shall receive.
As we can see he is not intimidating anyone...just stating the facts.





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From: [David Siegel]

To: [All employees]

To All My Valued Employees,

As most of you know our company, Westgate Resorts, has continued to succeed in spite of a very dismal economy. There is no question that the economy has changed for the worse and we have not seen any improvement over the past four years. In spite of all of the challenges we have faced, the good news is this: The economy doesn't currently pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is another 4 years of the same Presidential administration. Of course, as your employer, I can't tell you whom to vote for, and I certainly wouldn't interfere with your right to vote for whomever you choose. In fact, I encourage you to vote for whomever you think will serve your interests the best.

However, let me share a few facts that might help you decide what is in your best interest.The current administration and members of the press have perpetuated an environment that casts employers against employees. They want you to believe that we live in a class system where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. They label us the "1%" and imply that we are somehow immune to the challenges that face our country. This could not be further from the truth. Sure, you may have heard about the big home that I'm building. I'm sure many people think that I live a privileged life. However, what you don't see or hear is the true story behind any success that I have achieved.

I started this company over 42 years ago. At that time, I lived in a very modest home. I converted my garage into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would eventually employ you. We didn't eat in fancy restaurants or take expensive vacations because every dollar I made went back into this company. I drove an old used car, and often times, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business — hard work, discipline, and sacrifice. Meanwhile, many of my friends got regular jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a nice income, and they spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into this business —-with a vision that eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford to buy whatever I wanted. Even to this day, every dime I earn goes back into this company. Over the past four years I have had to stop building my dream house, cut back on all of my expenses, and take my kids out of private schools simply to keep this company strong and to keep you employed.

Just think about this – most of you arrive at work in the morning and leave that afternoon and the rest of your time is yours to do as you please. But not me- there is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have that freedom. I eat, live, and breathe this company every minute of the day, every day of the week. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. I know many of you work hard and do a great job, but I'm the one who has to sign every check, pay every expense, and make sure that this company continues to succeed. Unfortunately, what most people see is the nice house and the lavish lifestyle. What the press certainly does not want you to see, is the true story of the hard work and sacrifices I've made.

Now, the economy is falling apart and people like me who made all the right decisions and invested in themselves are being forced to bail out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed 42 years of my life for. Yes, business ownership has its benefits, but the price I've paid is steep and not without wounds. Unfortunately, the costs of running a business have gotten out of control, and let me tell you why: We are being taxed to death and the government thinks we don't pay enough. We pay state taxes, federal taxes, property taxes, sales and use taxes, payroll taxes, workers compensation taxes and unemployment taxes. I even have to hire an entire department to manage all these taxes. The question I have is this: Who is really stimulating the economy? Is it the Government that wants to take money from those who have earned it and give it to those who have not, or is it people like me who built a company out of his garage and directly employs over 7000 people and hosts over 3 million people per year with a great vacation?

Obviously, our present government believes that taking my money is the right economic stimulus for this country. The fact is, if I deducted 50 percent of your paycheck you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? Who wants to get rewarded only 50 percent of their hard work? Well, that's what happens to me.

Here is what most people don't understand and the press and our Government has chosen to ignore — to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Instead of raising my taxes and depositing that money into the Washington black-hole, let me spend it on growing the company, hire more employees, and generate substantial economic growth. My employees will enjoy the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But that is not what our current Government wants you to believe. They want you to believe that it somehow makes sense to take more from those who create wealth and give it to those who do not, and somehow our economy will improve. They don't want you to know that the "1%", as they like to label us, pay more than 31% of all the taxes in this country. Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said, "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate business, not kill it. However, the power brokers in Washington believe redistributing wealth is the essential driver of the American economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change they want.

So where am I going with all this? It's quite simple. If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company. Rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back. This means fewer jobs, less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone.

So, when you make your decision to vote, ask yourself, which candidate understands the economics of business ownership and who doesn't? Whose policies will endanger your job? Answer those questions and you should know who might be the one capable of protecting and saving your job. While the media wants to tell you to believe the "1 percenters" are bad, I'm telling you they are not. They create most of the jobs. If you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the "1%"; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country.

You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

Signed, your boss,

David Siegel
 

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Frankly, it's pretty amazing that this schmuck ever got to a position that he could afford to hire staff in the first place.

Why is that?
Hard work and investing everything back into the company
He is self made...you may want to do your research rather than chant like an angered OWS groupee
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Why is that?
Hard work and investing everything back into the company
He is self made...you may want to do your research rather than chant like like an angered OWS groupee
IJS

So in your view he should hold his employees at ransom, even if NONE of them vote for Obama and he ( Obama ) gets elected..

What will that prove that he closes his company.. That he was a total ass for trying to bully his employees that voted that way ( assuming all do ) and still shit on them ..

That would be the type of employer I would never want to work for and be..

See this has nothing to do with the Political Stripe, but rather telling employees who they should and should not vote for.. Just as Unions should NEVER EVER tell employees who to vote for or be banned..

Just my opinion that no one should ever mess with FREE VOTE..
 

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So in your view he should hold his employees at ransom, even if NONE of them vote for Obama and he ( Obama ) gets elected..

What will that prove that he closes his company.. That he was a total ass for trying to bully his employees that voted that way ( assuming all do ) and still shit on them ..

That would be the type of employer I would never want to work for and be..

See this has nothing to do with the Political Stripe, but rather telling employees who they should and should not vote for.. Just as Unions should NEVER EVER tell employees who to vote for or be banned..

Just my opinion that no one should ever mess with FREE VOTE..

He isnt holding anyone ransom...he told them to vote how they wish.
You may want to read the full email before commenting any further.
 

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He isnt holding anyone ransom...he told them to vote how they wish.
You may want to read the full email before commenting any further.

Yah I can read..

I also know when someone is playing politics.. Don't tell me it's not a threat meant to his employees.. Why else would he send it to them.. Even you can't be that.....
 

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Yah I can read..

I also know when someone is playing politics.. Don't tell me it's not a threat meant to his employees.. Why else would he send it to them.. Even you can't be that.....

Where is the threat to his employees?
 

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From your first post

The threat

"If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company," he wrote. "Rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back. This means fewer jobs, less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone."


How is this a threat?

It would be no different than saying...if costs go up I am going to have to cut back.

Would you rather have him not let em know...then lay em off later?

He is doing the right thing....he is merely telling them..If Obama gets back in I will have to down size...and some may lose their jobs.
 

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Can someone please explain to me how an increase in this guys personal taxes will effect his business?

I love how people will equate a tax increase to not being able to employ more people. The two are NOT connected.
 

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Can someone please explain to me how an increase in this guys personal taxes will effect his business?

I love how people will equate a tax increase to not being able to employ more people. The two are NOT connected.

He stated he and his business for a tax increase.

You seriously do not understand how increasing taxes reduces the workforce?
Taxes are an expense ,its an overhead just like other expenses.
The more expenses you have going out the less you have to reinvest back in the business to grow.
Also..due to the added expense one has to charge more for their goods or service which in effect reduces the sales for these goods or services...which means layoff or firing of staff.
You get hit both ways with an increase of taxes.
 
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