I girl and her dog :)

[Goat Whisperer]

Great dogs, but I would not under any circumstances get your face too close to them OR play any type of jumping game that entails what one of those pics does, it has a tendency to bring out the aggressive nature they have.

Don't get me wrong, I have had a few and loved them all but you always have to be careful and establish dominance

I've basically owned her since she was puppy, you might of had a more aggressive one, but she has NEVER attacked anyone not even a little nip, so I am pretty sure we are safe, she is 5 years old.

 

[kelvin070]

Studies also have shown that:

• Dog bites result in approximately 44,000 facial injuries in US hospitals each year. This represents between 0.5% and 1.5% of all emergency room visits
• The face is the most frequent target (77% of all injures). Mail carriers are an exception where 97% involve the lower extremities.
• The central target area for the face includes the lips, nose, and cheeks.

Source: dogbitelaw.com

 

[Goat Whisperer]

Studies also have shown that:

• Dog bites result in approximately 44,000 facial injuries in US hospitals each year. This represents between 0.5% and 1.5% of all emergency room visits
• The face is the most frequent target (77% of all injures). Mail carriers are an exception where 97% involve the lower extremities.
• The central target area for the face includes the lips, nose, and cheeks.

Source: dogbitelaw.com

Okay, so where are the statistics that say dogs are prone to suddenly biting someone during an activity they do regularly, when they haven't ever acted in the least bit aggressive during there 5 year life?

Just because 1% of hospital visits are from dog bites, it doesn't mean my well trained pet dog will suddenly attack me. These don't even say that pitbulls or rotties are more prone to attack.. last I heard golden retrievers were responsible for the majority of dog bites.

 

[kelvin070]

Pitbull Terriers are are well known all over the world for their agressiveness. I am simply suggesting you exercise some caution. The dog probably got tamed by you but how abt others who might come into contact with your dog for the first time. Plsa read up the laws in each state in USA abt pitbull terriers.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

Pitbull Terriers are are well known all over the world for their agressiveness. I am simply suggesting you exercise some caution. The dog probably got tamed by you but how abt others who might come into contact with your dog for the first time. Plsa read up the laws in each state in USA abt pitbull terriers.

Sorry, but I just think this kind of thing is really prejudicial. People train these dogs to fight each other or attack people. It is no more natural for a pittbull to attack someone then for greyhound to. It's like saying 'because guns look like they can kill people, anyone with a gun will probably kill someone'

Yes, if my pittbull came from a family line of trained pittbull fighters it is possible that she could be more aggressive--but she didn't, she came from a well known breeder in my area. All dogs have been domesticated for thousands of years, and about 20 years ago a few of the dogs in breeds such as pittbuls were trained to be fighters but, it certainly isn't natural.

My dog is comfortable with everyone. If she wasn't I would keep her well away from stangers, but I know how important it is to socialize dogs with people from a young age.

I'm sorry, but this sort of thing really bothers me because people petition to get rid of my dog just because of her breed. It's like saying 'Most murders are committed by black people, therefore black people are now banned from America' you people are forgetting about the innocent ones here. Most pittbulls are never agressive in their entire lives. And just because a few are, and those few have stonger bites then chiwuawuas, MY well trained, unagressive, cute dog, is outlawed from my area, and I am forced to move or get rid of her.

It's fucking ridicolous and pisses me off. It's some of the most prejudicial idealogy in the world.

 

[kelvin070]

LOL, ok fine. I know you are very passionate abt you pet. I guess you will know how to handle your pet.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

LOL, ok fine. I know you are very passionate abt you pet. I guess you will know how to handle your pet.

Thank you

 

[RedRyder]

I found some very interesting reading at this site: DOG BITE LAW - Statistics about dog bites in the USA and elsewhere

Here are some articles that helped make pitbulls feared:

Dogs Bite Blog: 2009 Fatality: Family Pit Bull Kills 11-Month Old Child in Eastpointe - DogsBite.org

Pit bull kills child and injures grandmother - Crime, UK - The Independent

12-Year-Old Boy Killed By Pit Bull - CBS News

And then there is this article on a breed no one thinks of for killing (Pomeranian):

Dog Bite Dangers

This article talks about Any Breed Doing a Bad Deed:
Punish the Deed, not the Breed!

Regardless of what each of us thinks about Pit Bulls or any other breed for that matter.... just be cautious and be responsible.

 

[Guyzerr]

All dogs have been domesticated for thousands of years, and about 20 years ago a few of the dogs in breeds such as pittbuls were trained to be fighters but, it certainly isn't natural.

It goes back a lot longer than 20 years ago. You might want to click on this. Pit Bull - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

" During the mid-1800s, immigration to the United States from Ireland and England brought an influx of these dogs to America, mainly to Boston, where they were bred to be larger and stockier, working as farm dogs in the West as much as fighting dogs in the cities. "

My dog is comfortable with everyone.

So far...........

It's fucking ridicolous and pisses me off. It's some of the most prejudicial idealogy in the world.

It's actually fucking ridiculous that people still insist they have a dog that's been bred over time to fight, maim or kill. I know they don't all do it but what's one of the first things you hear an owner say after it's too late? Something like " he's always been a sweetie and has never done that before ".

The bottom line is there isn't a person on this planet that can guarantee that any breed of dog won't bite.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

So far...........

FIVE years.

It's actually fucking ridiculous that people still insist they have a dog that's been bred over time to fight, maim or kill. I know they don't all do it but what's one of the first things you hear an owner say after it's too late? Something like " he's always been a sweetie and has never done that before ".

The bottom line is there isn't a person on this planet that can guarantee that any breed of dog won't bite.

I can't guarantee that a BREED of dog won't bite, but I can guarantee, at any given time, not all the time, that my DOG won't bite.

If my dog is stressed out and in close contact with someone they don't know who is cause for more stress, it is possible that she could bite. But I am not stupid enough to put my dog in a situation like that.

It bothers me that people tell me that MY dog is dangerous. If you guys went into every thread about a dog, and told them "Hey make sure your dog doesn't bite your face when you play with them like you do everyday!" it would be fine with me that you come in here and say that. But you don't, you only tell me because MY dog is a pitbull.

The ATTS tests hundreds of average dogs for aggression/safety. They get an average based on how many dogs pass and fail. Rotts received an 82.6% and the American Pit Bull Terrier got an 84.3%. While Collie got an 53.3% and the Chihuahua got 70.3%. First off, they said anything over 80% will most likely never become naturally agressive or act unnepectivitely bite under normal cirumstances.Obviosly, pitbulls are not more naturally agressive then other dogs.

I am bit at least once a week by the next door neighbors dog. The 6 year olds have no control over it, and it get's out at least once a day. It comes into my back yard or attacks me on my bike.

Now would I rather be bit all the time by an annoying little dog like thiers that does limited damage, or risk getting bit (but never get bit) by a bigger dog like mine? I'll take my chances.

 

[Guyzerr]

I can't guarantee that a BREED of dog won't bite, but I can guarantee, at any given time, not all the time, that my DOG won't bite.

You contradict yourself with that statement.

If my dog is stressed out and in close contact with someone they don't know who is cause for more stress, it is possible that she could bite. But I am not stupid enough to put my dog in a situation like that.

You can't control every movement that your dog makes nor can you predict how it will act even around people it is familiar with. Every animal can be unpredictable and you being experienced to some degree should understand that.

It bothers me that people tell me that MY dog is dangerous. If you guys went into every thread about a dog, and told them "Hey make sure your dog doesn't bite your face when you play with them like you do everyday!" it would be fine with me that you come in here and say that. But you don't, you only tell me because MY dog is a pitbull.

You and I are having a discussion here and you drag a lot of other folks into it by saying " you guys ". Let me make this perfectly clear... at no time did I tell you your dog is dangerous. I will say this though. Your dog has the potential to be extremely dangerous due to it's breeding. That is a proven fact.

The ATTS tests hundreds of average dogs for aggression/safety. They get an average based on how many dogs pass and fail. Rotts received an 82.6% and the American Pit Bull Terrier got an 84.3%. While Collie got an 53.3% and the Chihuahua got 70.3%. First off, they said anything over 80% will most likely never become naturally agressive or act unnepectivitely bite under normal cirumstances.Obviosly, pitbulls are not more naturally agressive then other dogs.

They may or may not be but history has proven that when a Pittbull does attack the results are usually quite catastrophic. That's why you hear about the attacks and that's why they are being banned from more areas all the time.

I am bit at least once a week by the next door neighbors dog. The 6 year olds have no control over it, and it get's out at least once a day. It comes into my back yard or attacks me on my bike.

Any dog that bit even once does not have the right to have a beating heart. That dog deserves to be put down before someone gets maimed for life.

Now would I rather be bit all the time by an annoying little dog like thiers that does limited damage, or risk getting bit (but never get bit) by a bigger dog like mine? I'll take my chances.

See my comments above...........

I've been bit twice during my life and neither was enjoyable. The first time when I was about 5 a friends dog chewed my hand up. The second time my grandparents dog, a very tame Border Collie was out hunting frogs with me. I was about 8. In any event I caught a frog and slipped it into my shirt pocket. This very tame, never bit anyone before dog decided he wanted that frog and chewed the hell out of my shoulder. It required quite a hospital visit and if you look real close you can still see some scars after almost 50 years. Against my protests my grandfather shot the dog and vowed never to have another on the farm. He kept that promise until he died. He was a very wise man.

I'm sure you know I love animals of all sorts. Please say hello to Jackson the Farm Dog. He is well over 100 lbs. and as gentle an animal as anyone could want. But....... when he sees a wild animal such as a rabbit or squirrel he will not rest until he gets it. No amount of interference from me or anyone else will slow him down. If he decided to attack someone they wouldn't stand a chance. To date he has never displayed any such temperament and hope he never does but it's something I could never guarantee.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

You contradict yourself with that statement.

If someone were to ask me if my dog was going to bite at any given moment, I could guarantee that she wasn't by making sure she wasn't stressed (anyone who owns any animal should be able to see stress signs of that animal) but I can't say that she won't bite all the time, because I'm not there to make sure she acting normally all the time.

You can't control every movement that your dog makes nor can you predict how it will act even around people it is familiar with. Every animal can be unpredictable and you being experienced to some degree should understand that.

The ATTS says that my dog very rarely will act in an unpredictable way. I can also read my dog pretty well, and tell what kind of mood she is in, and if she is stressed out. Pet dogs act differently then farm or hunting dogs do.

You and I are having a discussion here and you drag a lot of other folks into it by saying " you guys ". Let me make this perfectly clear... at no time did I tell you your dog is dangerous. I will say this though. Your dog has the potential to be extremely dangerous due to it's breeding. That is a proven fact.

Other people have made comments about my dog being dangerous. My dog has much less potential to be dangerous when compared to most other breeds of dogs.

They may or may not be but history has proven that when a Pittbull does attack the results are usually quite catastrophic. That's why you hear about the attacks and that's why they are being banned from more areas all the time.

Yes, but pitbulls rarely if ever attack. And these attacks are always provoked and prventable.

See my comments above...........

I've been bit twice during my life and neither was enjoyable. The first time when I was about 5 a friends dog chewed my hand up. The second time my grandparents dog, a very tame Border Collie was out hunting frogs with me. I was about 8. In any event I caught a frog and slipped it into my shirt pocket. This very tame, never bit anyone before dog decided he wanted that frog and chewed the hell out of my shoulder. It required quite a hospital visit and if you look real close you can still see some scars after almost 50 years. Against my protests my grandfather shot the dog and vowed never to have another on the farm. He kept that promise until he died. He was a very wise man.

Hunting and farm dogs act much differently then pet dogs. They are much more predictable and much less prone to attack because they don't attack wild animals all the time. Also, Collies had something around 70% in the ATTS agression testing.

I'm sure you know I love animals of all sorts. Please say hello to Jackson the Farm Dog. He is well over 100 lbs. and as gentle an animal as anyone could want. But....... when he sees a wild animal such as a rabbit or squirrel he will not rest until he gets it. No amount of interference from me or anyone else will slow him down. If he decided to attack someone they wouldn't stand a chance. To date he has never displayed any such temperament and hope he never does but it's something I could never guarantee.

It is something I can garuntee with my dog at the moment. Maybe in 3 years she will be a different animal. But I trust her enough to play frisbee and let her lick my face like any other dog.

 

[skyblue]

watch out for those jack russels though......now they can be nasty