How can religion exist after Darwin? Is it bound to die?

[Tuffdisc]

I think it's highly unfair to call a non-believer in religion or god or anything supernatural, closed-minded. Religion or any belief in God to an extent is an exercise in closed-mindedness. The religious rejection of science is a good example of that. Believers in God "know" they're God exists, and is the reason behind everything. That is the ultimate closed minded belief as it doesn't allow for change nor discovery. Science, by it's very nature, is an emergent process, as the journey of discovering the natural world continues and continues. By that sense, no scientist can be called closed-minded.

The only non-closed minded believer in God would be someone who is open to the possibility that God may not exist.

I think it is unfair to call scientists who believe that God exist narrow minded as well. We have a lot of accusations from atheists and from people who behave in a certain manner

 

[Greatest I am]

I think it is unfair to call scientists who believe that God exist narrow minded as well. We have a lot of accusations from atheists and from people who behave in a certain manner

"Whoever imagines himself a favorite with God,
holds other people in contempt.
Whenever a man believes that he has the exact truth from God,
there is in that man no spirit of compromise.
He has not the modesty born of the imperfections of human nature;
he has the arrogance of theological certainty and the tyranny born of ignorant assurance.
Believing himself to be the slave of God,
he imitates his master,
and of all tyrants,
the worst is a slave in power."
--Robert Ingersoll

 

[Tuffdisc]

"Whoever imagines himself a favorite with God,
holds other people in contempt.
Whenever a man believes that he has the exact truth from God,
there is in that man no spirit of compromise.
He has not the modesty born of the imperfections of human nature;
he has the arrogance of theological certainty and the tyranny born of ignorant assurance.
Believing himself to be the slave of God,
he imitates his master,
and of all tyrants,
the worst is a slave in power."
--Robert Ingersoll

Boring, suppose you know what goes on inside a person's mind, huh?

 

[mazHur]

i do not imagine myself a favorite with god,
but for sure i'm proud to have him by my side;
i do not hold other people in contempt.
I believe in the word, the exact truth from god,
there is in that man genuine spirit of compromise.
I have the modesty born of the imperfections of human nature;
i detest the arrogance of theological certainty and the tyranny born of ignorant disbelief.
Believing myself to be the servant of god,
i do not imitate my master,
and forsooth all tyrants,
the worst is a tyrant in power."
mazhur

..........

 

[All Else Failed]

If the good enough is also the best it can be then is that not also as perfect as it can be with the DNA and conditions at hand? Even if crazy are malformed or half blind?

Do not be angry with my persistence because it is just that if you do not have the right mind set and use the words evolving perfection right, you will not get it, and really, this is not a dificult concept if looked at a certain way.

Regards
DL

I'm not angry, and get off you're high horse. You're not some fount of wisdom. The problem I have with you is that you sound like you're pulling everything out of a hat and making things up that sound good to you.


And no, "the best it can be" falls short of perfection. It is not perfect with the DNA at hand because you're assuming that perfection with the faulty DNA can be attained by being deficit in areas. That defies the definition.


Varying levels of competence/ability exist. Not varying levels of perfection.

Faith and intelligence are not mutually exclusive. Many scientists believe in God. Maybe they're more open minded than their closed minded brethren in the Science Religion.

Oh please, don't play the "science is a religion" card, we're not retarded.

 

[Greatest I am]

..........

Master-servant.
Is that your God is about?

As a father, I want my children to exceed whatever I am.
You seem to think your heavenly father wants servants.
If you are to emulate your God, does that mean you want your children as servants?

This speeks of your God having a need.
What does an omnipotent God need with servants?

Regards
DL

 

[edgray]

I think it is unfair to call scientists who believe that God exist narrow minded as well. We have a lot of accusations from atheists and from people who behave in a certain manner

if they admit the possibility that God doesn't exist, then it would be unfair.

 

[mazHur]

Master-servant.
Is that your God is about?

As a father, I want my children to exceed whatever I am.
You seem to think your heavenly father wants servants.
If you are to emulate your God, does that mean you want your children as servants?

This speeks of your God having a need.
What does an omnipotent God need with servants?

Regards
DL

There is no sense in comparing God to father...and his servants to children.

God doesn't have any need.....but everything-angels, humans, all living and non-living things- in the Universe is subordinate to Him.

Since He is Omnipotent --ie He can do whatever He likes--it is illogical to compare Him with yerself as
father of your children.

HE is our Master and We are His servants....servants in the sense that we are bound to obey HIM.
I do not have any heavenly father..... but the ONe and the ONly God or Allah!

 

[sexysadie]

Master-servant.
Is that your God is about?

As a father, I want my children to exceed whatever I am.
You seem to think your heavenly father wants servants.
If you are to emulate your God, does that mean you want your children as servants?

This speeks of your God having a need.
What does an omnipotent God need with servants?

Regards
DL

The word 'servant' also means being mature enough to be concerned and considerate to others, as opposed to thinking only of ourselves. That being said, I'm certain that those who know you best, want desperately for your children to exceed you....but sweetness, please, for their sakes, have them aim their goals a little higher.

 

[mazHur]

Good Morning, Sadie

 

[sexysadie]

Good morning mazzy!

 

[Minor Axis]

God doesn't have any need.....but everything-angels, humans, all living and non-living things- in the Universe is subordinate to Him.

Part 1: WHO SAYS??
Part 2: PROVE IT!!

Know-it-all religious people can be so annoying.

 

[mazHur]

Part 1: WHO SAYS??
Part 2: PROVE IT!!

Know-it-all religious people can be so annoying.

Read Scriptures and you will know it..
Skeptics are a pain in the neck!!

 

[Minor Axis]

God is big needy baby. His parents and sister think so. They are not thrilled with his communication skills either. He tends to isolate himself and hold it all in.

 

[mazHur]

God is big needy baby. His parents and sister think so. They are not thrilled with his communication skills either. He tends to isolate himself and hold it all in.

That's why you have printed on the dollar bill, In God We Trust...HE didn't ask you to do that, did HE??
Naturally it means you accept that a God exists and you confide in HIM...
Proved that YOU are needy not HIM!!

 

[mazHur]

Good morning mazzy!

Have a splendid day

 

[sexysadie]

God is big needy baby. His parents and sister think so. They are not thrilled with his communication skills either. He tends to isolate himself and hold it all in.

:24:Speaking of know it all religious people!!!!!

 

[Minor Axis]

:24:Speaking of know it all religious people!!!!!

My dear, I was making a point.

 

[sexysadie]

My dear, I was making a point.

So was I darling

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Religion doesn't make sense. In my opinion, you've gotta be too gullible for that crap...